The game didn't change, all you have to do is trying something new and I'm pretty sure that most players will adapt (based on plenty of other 'hated' updates in the past in other games, everyone whines and after a week everyone is still playing)

Never seen a hated update this strong. It had never had impacts the way you see the game. This one does.

That is what it changed and that's why ppl don't like it.

I won't be discussin anymore. If i don't like i will siply change. Lots of games out there to loose time in trying this one to be as it was.

bring back my games and open games! game is unplayable now! That is the easyest thing to do since the links https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?OpenGames=1 my games still work. Please give me any good reason for erasing the links from the game menu.

Edited 8/3/2015 19:21:57

With 13 games it takes 2-3 seconds to load the dashboard. I miss the My Games tab, but this change isn't a deal breaker for me (not even close).

2-3 seconds for 13 games? You must have a pretty bad connection. Like I said 20 games loads for me in less than a second.

Never seen a hated update this strong. It had never had impacts the way you see the game. This one does.

I've seen plenty of updates in other games with a lot more hate and with more impact on a game itself, and even though one was enough to make me stop not a single one of those updates made the number of active players drop, to reach that you need more than 1 update that you don't like (for a serious number of players to stop with a game)

edit: Of course everyone is welcome to disagree with me, but I'm convinced of my opinion based on previous encounters

Edited 8/3/2015 19:42:59

I HATE THE NEW UPDATE, I HAVE NEVER USED THE DASHBOARD AND I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY SOMETHING THAT WAS FINE WAS CHANGED FOR NO REASON! CHANGE IT BACK PLEASE!!!!!!!

I ofc disagree.

If u make an update against majority of players, as it is obvious the case, from previous posts and all comments on the game, you are fighting against yourself.

Majority of players do not want this change and despise it.

Edited 8/3/2015 19:48:42

I actually miss the My Games tab. My mind cannot handle everything on the same page. I just want to see my games and not the icons for the options in that game. Not a great excuse but im using it.

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/102779-dislike-dashboard-check-out

I still don't understand the issue here. One person said it takes 2-3 seconds for loading their games. Nobody else has done anything but whine without anything tangible. That won't change ANYTHING. If you have no real reason why the dashboard is worse, then stop posting in here.


All I am asking is that when you say you hate it, tell everyone why (with speed comparisons or whatever). There will be NO change unless he has some proof to go on. Not a bunch of people here just whining that they hate it. For the amount of fun you guys get from a free site, you do a lot of complaining. I hope your whining never pushes him over the edge.

I gave my reasons. Im too stupid to process it.

I dont understand how many times someone has to explain one thing. The old tabs were written in FLASH not HTML. It was outdated. It was also a change we knew was coming for months. Why are tons of people suddenly flipping out now.

Well, the argument from people should be to have "My Games" under Multiplayer tab in HTML without any other dashboard items (open games, forum posts, RT ladder, etc). Instead they just whine.

The question is, would that be any faster than the dashboard is now? I would like to know.

If u r not happy with it, maybe you will when the game stop existing.

One single, simple reason: MAJORITY OF PLAYERS DO NOT LIKE IT NOR WILL USE IT !

This entire predicament can be summed up in a minute-long video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W-M9IwMi-c

This works too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

What I think, is that Fizzer did it a bit too soon. I'm no expert, but what I'd have done is made the Dashboard look nicer, and more aesthetically pleasing than it is, before phasing "My Games" and "Open Games". It simply isn't nice to look at, as you cannot put your "My Games" into pages, and it leaves the Open Games below the Coin Games, where I imagine more people are interested in playing Open Games than Coin Games - especially if they are just being introduced to WarLight.

The tabs removed were definitely outdated, and were bound to disappear sooner or later, but the Dashboard has to get in better shape before it is mandatory.

Again, no expert, just my two copper coins.

The sad thing is that several people have made valid points regarding this update but most of its defenders refuse to address said points and instead opt to insult anyone who doesn't like the update. "You're all a bunch of ungrateful brats! Stop whining and just accept everything no matter what!"

It's called voicing your concerns. If you don't like something than you have every right to speak out about it. I'll concede that some people protesting the update have crossed the line but (most of) you people defending the update haven't been much more mature with your response either.

Edited 8/3/2015 20:23:32

I noticed a couple of things with the dashboard that I'd like to see improved.

I don't see anywhere to change the default game display settings on the Dashboard. I have to navigate to the https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?MyGames=1 page in order to change them for My Games, and navigate to https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?OpenGames=1 to change them for Open Games.

Also, there are fewer options on the Dashboard for what games to display. My preferred choice is "Games that are active or have unread chat messages", and that's not an option (unless I set it as my default via the My Games page).

Chris, the games load in about 1 second, but it takes another second for the rest of the page to load. A couple of seconds isn't a big deal to me, and I'm already getting used to using the dashboard.

Edited 8/3/2015 20:34:57

My main problem with the dashboard is that it is not advertising open games nearly enough. I didn't even notice there were open games down there until this update and everyone yelling about the removal of the two tabs. Granted, this is because I have my Warlight needs settled by ladders/tournaments/leagues, and I create my own games if I need them.

Now that I've noticed that... I have to scroll down to get there. With 31 games and a ~800 height laptop screen, it takes me 7 "Page Down" presses to get to Open Games. That's a lot of scrolling, so it's probably slower getting down there than it is to open the Open Games tab.
Opening games is more annoying in the Dashboard screen because flash has to load every time.

Granted, there are some upsides about the dashboard's version of open games. For one, I can open games in new tabs, and then join all of them at once when I'm done looking at the open games. Secondly, with the icons for certain settings, I can quickly/easily eliminate some games based on what settings they do/don't have. (For example, auto-distribution is an automatic no for me - something I would sometimes fall for in the old Open Games since it wasn't there.) Also, instead of scrolling down all the way, since Open Games are on the bottom, pressing the End key is a nice shortcut to there :3

But then again, people might not know how to use the End key or open games in new tabs, and that's the demographic that'd be most annoyed by the dashboard's style. The quickest fix is probably a button on the top-right (above Map of the Week) that scrolls down to the bottom and opens up all open games.

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I don't like reloading flash when playing in games, but the main problem with that is that the Next Game button always sends you to the same game (lowest time of the games where its my turn for me.) If I don't want to play that game first - for example, it's a 2v2 ladder game where I want to discuss with my partner - then the next game button is essentially broken for me and I have to keep loading up flash from the dashboard. Ugh. Obviously the fix for that is to create a "skip game" button so I can get past those without reloading flash.

Not quite sure if I'm for or against the update though because I'm one of the least affected by it.

The sad thing is that several people have made valid points regarding this update but most of its defenders refuse to address said points and instead opt to insult anyone who doesn't like the update. "You're all a bunch of ungrateful brats! Stop whining and just accept everything no matter what!"

It's called voicing your concerns. If you don't like something than you have every right to speak out about it. I'll concede that some people protesting the update have crossed the line but (most of) you people defending the update haven't been much more mature with your response either.

Thank you. Many people have indeed been calm and coherent in explaining why we don't like the dashboard. Generally speaking, when I look at the thread and the people who argue for the new update, it comes down to "Suck it up. Change is good. Dashboard isn't finished. We're better off without the people who quit because of it." I haven't actually seen a lot of argument for why the dashboard is better than the tabs. Let's face it, WarLight needs all the extra players it can get. Making them leave because of unpopular updates isn't helping.

Also, for everyone saying dissenters aren't the majority, I am positive they are, because literally no one I have heard besides people in this forum are happy with it. Maybe that's just the people I play with, I don't know. But you can't pull the "they should have posted here" card, because more people have posted here not in favor of it anyway, and a good segment of the WarLight population doesn't even know the forums exist. There's a voiceless population of Warlight and I would rather just not remove good features in the first place than assume they will all be OK with it.