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The Real Time Cup: 9/1/2015 04:15:31


Orthrus Echo Five
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I'm in.
The Real Time Cup: 9/1/2015 06:41:16

Master Bjarke
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well great idea. Hope to see a effect on the ladder :). I would play more rt ladder if it didn't took so long to get a game, which this will help on, so guess that makes the effect bigger
The Real Time Cup: 9/1/2015 12:14:18


Kenny • apex 
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Sounds good, I'll be able to host some of these streams :)
The Real Time Cup: 9/1/2015 12:35:04


Ragnarok
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In
The Real Time Cup: 9/2/2015 08:46:04

Arkanton
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I'm in
The Real Time Cup: 9/2/2015 10:36:46

talia_fr0st
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I have a new formula!

Assuming that only the top players will compete to enter this tournament, these scores should end up above 0.

A is wins
B is average opponents rating when the player wins
C is losses
D is average opponents rating when the player loses
E is position
F is time in days (add a quarter every 6 hours)

(A*B)-(C*D)+((1/E)*3000*F)

Edited 9/2/2015 12:55:52
The Real Time Cup: 9/2/2015 10:54:06


[WM] Gnuffone 
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instead of losing time to decide a formula (the szew formula is ok i think), join rt ladder!
The Real Time Cup: 9/2/2015 11:56:14


Master Ryiro 
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easy for an alt to say :P
The Real Time Cup: 9/2/2015 14:30:43


Beren Erchamion 
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I do think it should be required to play with your main account for this. That way it's clear to everyone who's playing. Plus, most people who started new runs on alts did it because their main wasn't doing as well as they'd have liked.

Also, it looks much nicer to see Summer, Gnuffone, and master of desaster on the leaderboard than Brainy Smurf, Killua Zaoldyeck, and desi.

Edited 9/2/2015 14:32:40
The Real Time Cup: 9/2/2015 16:06:08


szeweningen 
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I mean it's fine to use your main account, but if you have used multiple account so far, you have the unfair advantage of being able to pick your best rating, so before the start of the 2-3 month stretch I'd require all participants to state which account they are using for the time being.
The Real Time Cup: 9/2/2015 16:26:44


[WM] Gnuffone 
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for me it's even easier use my main account. So i don't need to play a bunch of game for get 1st place again. Just let me know if i am allowed to use this account (which is not my best anyway, but 2nd best i think) or not.
The Real Time Cup: 9/2/2015 18:40:21


Buns157 
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I'm in.
The Real Time Cup: 9/3/2015 15:15:21


Turkish
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in this will be very hard...
The Real Time Cup: 9/3/2015 17:15:00


ps 
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Beren: that's kind of racist of you, just because they are blue, they still have feelings you know!
The Real Time Cup: 9/3/2015 21:18:54

Ryan Doherty 
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When does it begin, and where do I signup?
The Real Time Cup: 9/4/2015 13:37:07


Sephiroth
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Decide a date of start and a date of end for the qualifications period.
Calculate the elo rating among the players who played 20 or more games during that period, using only the games played in that period obviously (simple query).
Now you have a very accurate ranking, and the first 8 who want to participate in the tournament are qualified.

I think this is the most skill-based method, and a very easy one to implement too.
The Real Time Cup: 9/4/2015 14:31:06


Beren Erchamion 
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I agree with Sephiroth's idea. This way it doesn't actually matter which account people use (since prior rating is irrelevant). I'd just add that there should be some (small) bonus for playing more games since we want to incentivise activity, not just encourage people to play 20 games over two months.

@ps, I'm not racist, I just believe blue people should have their own ladder and stop hogging ours.

Edited 9/4/2015 14:31:58
The Real Time Cup: 9/4/2015 17:29:19


hedja 
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Seph, but it will be difficult to know how close you are to the top and what the rankings look like, and in the last couple of days I'm sure people would want to have an idea so they can either play a lot to get in or realise it is futile and spend their time on something else.

Addition: It isn't a problem using the current rt rating system as long as we wait a while so everyone can start inflating their scores now to what they "should" be so everyone is starting in a good place. Which I think is one of the reasons so many people are ranked in the rt ladder right now.

Edited 9/4/2015 17:30:38
The Real Time Cup: 9/4/2015 18:15:59


Beren Erchamion 
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@hedja, it will be somewhat difficult to do that anyway, since most people won't have kept track of how many days their opponents have spent ranked at which position, not to mention how many games they have played, since that is likely to play some role in the rankings as well.
The Real Time Cup: 9/4/2015 19:34:02


Sephiroth
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I'd just add that there should be some (small) bonus for playing more games since we want to incentivise activity, not just encourage people to play 20 games over two months.
Since the matches aren't chosen with a Swiss system, you'll need many more than 20 games to achieve a very high elo ;)

@hedja: it is not that difficult to make a program that calculates the rankings that way
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