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Crap Countries Did: 9/17/2015 18:16:43

[NI] Lord eKell
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1. The Armenian population stood at roughly 3 million. By your insane maths the huge drop in population, to roughly 1.5 million, is explained by what?

By the same logic, the three million Armenians somehow managed to murder 1 million Ottomans whilst simultaneously enlisting in record number to help the Ottomansm and being murdered in record numbers by the Ottomans, they found the time to cover up the imaginary 'genocide so well that there is not a single scrap of paper to prove that it happened.

Either the Armenians are the craftiest, most efficient, evil and technologically advanced people in the history of the world, or you are talking out of your ass.

2.Armenians did not commit any acts of genocide against the Ottomans, nor did they side with the Russians. That is simply a lie and it is based on absolutely zero evidence so please stop bringing it up because it is insulting to those who are capable of sentient thought.

3. I am Northern Irish, not Spanish. Te terrible acts carried out by Spain, the UK, the IRA and all of the other horrible things that have happened in this world do not in anyway mitigate the murder of over a million people by the Ottoman government, including the murder of its own, ridiculously loyal Armenian troops.
Crap Countries Did: 9/17/2015 18:31:20


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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man you guys sure bully that arab guy LOL
Crap Countries Did: 9/17/2015 19:19:55

[NI] Lord eKell
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I'm not "bullying the Arab guy," I'm explaining facts to a denier of the Armenian Holocaust
Crap Countries Did: 9/17/2015 19:23:33


Riveath
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I'm not "bullying the Arab guy," I'm explaining facts to a denier of the Armenian Holocaust


And I completely agree.
Crap Countries Did: 9/17/2015 19:35:21


Darth Darth Binks
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road of tears

Trail of Tears. Get it right.
Crap Countries Did: 9/17/2015 19:55:23


Rogue NK
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the trail of tears was not the worst part of america, france, england, and spain wrecking the new world.
Crap Countries Did: 9/20/2015 11:29:36


Luna {TJC}
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Is saying don't cry about it a bad joke?
Crap Countries Did: 9/20/2015 11:57:12


Angry Koala
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Australia for mass murdering innocent Koalas, Kangaroos and Sloths!
Crap Countries Did: 9/20/2015 11:59:01


The Onion
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We have sloths?
New Zealand for having to much "fun" with the sheep.
Crap Countries Did: 9/20/2015 12:10:55


Angry Koala
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yes the extinct Megasloths!


nowadays their children are prisoners in your Australian zoos!

you also mass murdered sharks, spiders, jellifishes and evil Tasmanian devils! How dare you!?
Crap Countries Did: 9/20/2015 13:21:02


Жұқтыру
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Britain - Irish potato famine.
Crap Countries Did: 9/20/2015 13:36:01


Min34 
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Poland went into space.


I Lol'ed
Crap Countries Did: 9/20/2015 19:14:13


AlternateHistoryGuy
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'Great Leap Forward' China in 1958-1962. 45 million people dead because of one man's mistakes.
Crap Countries Did: 9/20/2015 21:38:39


Belgian Gentleman
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Approximately between 5 000 - 20 000 protestants (and suspects) were killed. Do some research before you flip out with your crazy numbers.

Let's talk about congo...

Therefore there were a lot more worser things than the congo genocide. Leopold was not one of the bloodiest man in history but certainly one of the greediest.

To give it you on paper Belgians did not kill in millions in Congo. Congo at that time was a faraway isolated stretched massive land surrounded by wilderness with no knowledge of the invention of the weel nor advanced agricultural methods. Therefore its population was targetted at a million in the beginning of the 19th century. Belgium did not actually helped for a significant drop in Congo's population but did just the opposite as you would expect. The birth rate of Congo exploded when Belgians exposed them to better medical treatment & hospitals.

The congo genocide is indeed sad but its casualities are not to be counted in millions as African supremacists would say. That the deaths of the Congo free state would rank up to 10 million was just to be found in Joseph Conrads book Heart of Darkness. That number is just too exaggerately represented and was part of the US congo free state propagenda where America tried to accuse Belgian autorities of non-humanitarian actions in priority to set up anti colonialist ideas.

Critic: this propagenda image of joseph conrads book leaned upon inaccurately represantive numbers on no reliable sources as Conrad never visited the free state. He had a stereotypical view of congo in front of its eyes. The numbers of 10-15 million dead congolese and 20% population drop were never proved.

Congo genocide real death toll is estimated between 100 000 and 200 000 lives in a timespan of 35 years. Belgians were using the same torturing technique originated from the Arabs and the king of belgium Leopold II became filthy rich as heck.

Thereafter I believe that Arabian sultans did more crap in 1000 years than we Belgians did in 35 years.
Crap Countries Did: 9/20/2015 21:46:22


Angry Koala
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England and Burgundy for burning Jeanne D'Arc!
Crap Countries Did: 9/20/2015 23:30:38


AlternateHistoryGuy
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Ooooh buuuurrrnn....literally :P
Crap Countries Did: 9/21/2015 00:44:52


Жұқтыру
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Approximately between 5 000 - 20 000 protestants (and suspects) were killed. Do some research before you flip out with your crazy numbers.

Let's talk about congo...

Therefore there were a lot more worser things than the congo genocide. Leopold was not one of the bloodiest man in history but certainly one of the greediest.


Don't even try "distractions". Humans did not have knowledge of the wheel nor agriculture for thousands of years, but Congo is such a lush land that it does not matter, just pick what you want from the ground, trees or moving. There were at least 10 million in the Congo in 1885 according to most estimates. Or perhaps we should say "Belgium does not have much great food-growing land at all, more an industrial country, they were always starving. What, they colonised Congo? Ha, no, they are too busy starving to build shipyards or boats."

The congo genocide is indeed sad but its casualities are not to be counted in millions as African supremacists would say. That the deaths of the Congo free state would rank up to 10 million was just to be found in Joseph Conrads book Heart of Darkness. That number is just too exaggerately represented and was part of the US congo free state propagenda where America tried to accuse Belgian autorities of non-humanitarian actions in priority to set up anti colonialist ideas.


10 million is a high estimate. It's doubtful it is that high, but it's certainly non-humanitarian actions, and it's certainly several million killed.

20% population drop were never proved.


It's clear to 4/5 sources that Congo had around ~50% population drop 1885-1908.

"William Henry Sheppard, a Presbyterian missionary, recalled in his diary passing by more than a dozen burned villages. He was taken to the headquarters of a gendarmerie recruit called Mlumba Nkusa, described by Sheppard as ‘a most repulsive looking man’ because his teeth were filed into sharp points, his eyebrows were shaven and his eyelashes plucked out. Leopold had demanded that Mlumba collect 60 slaves and a huge amount of rubber, but only eight slaves and 2,500 balls of rubber had been gathered. ‘I think we killed between 80 and 90,’ said Mlumba of the local workers. He took Sheppard to a hut reserved for the rape of hostages and to another for the preservation of collected hands. Sheppard counted 81 hands hanging over the fire."

Reports like these were the great majority.

Congo genocide real death toll is estimated between 100 000 and 200 000 lives in a timespan of 35 years. Belgians were using the same torturing technique originated from the Arabs and the king of belgium Leopold II became filthy rich as heck.


Who the hell says that between 100k and 200k were killed? Not even the most conservative, semi-dubious estimates go below a million, this is ridiculous.

Thereafter I believe that Arabian sultans did more crap in 1000 years than we Belgians did in 35 years.


It spanned for 24 years for one, and Arabians never got to Congo, for two, for three, if this sultanate killed 1k folk every year, while the Belgians killed 40k per year, of course the Sultanate is going to be killing more folk, it's over 1000 years.

Honestly, your country has done a very terrible, awful thing, and to just try to make the numbers as low as possible so that your country is not as shamed as much? You shame humankind, and most Belgians, I hope.

Edited 9/21/2015 00:45:17
Crap Countries Did: 9/21/2015 00:55:19


Angry Koala
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Belgium shall be annihilated.
Crap Countries Did: 9/21/2015 14:45:19

SVY
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Wait, Congo didn't have the wheel in the 19th century? What's your source?

I find that difficult to believe. The wheel came to Egypt at approximately 1500 BC. I should think that 3000 years would be more than enough for the wheel to spread into Sudan and thence to Subsaharan Africa.

And what crap did the Arab sultans precisely do that was so horrible?

Edit: Wikipedia says that apparently the wheel did spread into Africa but was barely used there.

Edited 9/21/2015 14:53:45
Crap Countries Did: 9/21/2015 14:54:05


Eklipse
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I've noticed a common theme here. Everyone downplays genocides and atrocities when it's their country on trial, but if it's someone else's country being shamed they'll hammer in how horrible and evil the thing said foreign country did was.

Edited 9/21/2015 14:54:40
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