Ugh. Every.single.discussion about the Middle East is filled with people either bowing down and worshipping America or people ranting on about how evil America is and how we should burn the country on a stake or something.

I'm going to go out on a big limb here and say that stopping ISIS is more important than determining America's moral alignment. But what do I know? Maybe chanting "AMERICA IS EVIL! AMERICA IS EVIL!" enough times will complete the magic spell to make ISIS vanish into thin air.

I agree with Eklipse {TJC}: America is not evil, ISIS got there weapons from them by mistake, and they only destabilize countries to help them in the long run.

You wanna know what, why don't we get the globe to Focus on Fusion energy, that away no oil interests will have any power in the Middle East, and we can just sort of let it sort its self out.

That's my 2 cents on the entirety of what to do with the Middle East.

Ugh. Every.single.discussion about the Middle East is filled with people either bowing down and worshipping America or people ranting on about how evil America is and how we should burn the country on a stake or something.

The most important issues in the Middle East are usually something that America has made and is involved in. An analogy: a boy gets beat up by his bully at school, later brought to the director's office.

Director (to boy): I'm sorry, that must have not been nice, we'll make sure this is handled.
Director (to bully): Why did you beat him up?
Bully: Ugh, stop bringing it up, What I did isn't important; we need to fix this boy's problem. Maybe chanting "BULLY IS EVIL! BULLY IS EVIL!" enough times will make his problems vanish into the air. But I think not.

I agree with Eklipse {TJC}: America is not evil, ISIS got there weapons from them by mistake, and they only destabilize countries to help them in the long run.

All major governments are evil. America just pops up way more on the evil scene in mindly talk since it's invading, influencing or strongly affecting every country there is. The Levant got bit of their equipment from America, of course - I thought this was established, that America later apologised for it by saying the Levant didn't seem so evil at the time. There'a a couple photographs of American diplomats and some Levantine soldiers smiling and ready to deal.

It's favourable to America if Levant keeps on existing - that's bit of the grounds that they're not completely destroying it in short time, like they did with Iraq and Afghanistan already.

You really need oil for more than just energy purposes japan77 plastics to bitman is made from crude oil.

Police academy 19 starring the USA

Panda you fucking narcissist no one gives a fuck. You dont have to let us know who you blacklist or report because no one gives a fuck its as simple as that. If you're trying to hurt muh fwee fwees then OH NO SOME FAGGOT ON THE INTERNET BLACKLISTED AND REPORTED ME I THINK IM GONNA CRY NOW

tbh America's military history has been almost entirely about big countries underestimating small local militias.

American Revolution, Vietnam War, arming the Taliban in Afghanistan... all instances of this that come easily to mind.

An analogy: a boy gets beat up by his bully at school, later brought to the director's office.

Director (to boy): I'm sorry, that must have not been nice, we'll make sure this is handled.
Director (to bully): Why did you beat him up?
Bully: Ugh, stop bringing it up, What I did isn't important; we need to fix this boy's problem. Maybe chanting "BULLY IS EVIL! BULLY IS EVIL!" enough times will make his problems vanish into the air. But I think not.

You're missing a very key part of that analogy. In this case, the boy who was victimized isn't just reporting to the director. No, this boy has grabbed an arsenal of weapons and is on a mass shooting spree to get revenge for his mistreatment.

Does the bully take a lot of blame for pushing the boy that far? Yeah. However, I would think that stopping the omnicidal maniac who's bent on killing as many people as possible is a far more pressing concern than telling the bully how evil he is.

Your analogy is also wrong.

More correct would be, a guy goes from school to school, finding him some outsiders, supply them with weapons and encourage them to go on a homocidal rampage, so that he can take over the school indirectly, or directly later in justifying his intervention.

He did that in countless schools before, Guatemala Elementary, Honduras Middle School, El Salvador School for Higher Learning, Venezuela University, Ecuador School of Economics, Bolivia Elementary, Lybia Technical University, Vietnam People University, Iraq Modern School and so on, and so on.

While the homicidal maniac with the gun must be stopped, it should be clear who the real bad guy behind all the school killings is and who also must be stopped to prevent future schools from being victimized. Not to mention that he should be put to trial.

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myhand's analogy is no better than those he's claiming to be faulty.

It'd be more akin to finding a group of students at a school who are being abused by the faculty and then supplying those students with weaponry.

It's not just the suppliers of the weapons and the students that rebel that share the blame. The initial problem was the abusive faculty. Perhaps supplying the victims with weapons wasn't the best way to solve the problem, but it is not the source of the problem. That however is not to say it didn't exacerbate the problem.

You are incorrect. Just because one guy comes around and supplies weapons to certain members of the students, it doesnt mean that the faculty is abusive. The elementary school of Iran had a perfectly democratic faculty, much like El Salvador, Chile and many others, yet our guy came around and supplied them with weapons. He supplied them to faulty members of the students community, fascists, fundamentalists etc.

So our problem is not related to the legitimation of the leadership of the school, but rather to the particular interests of our criminal guy.

All of the analogies are bad :p

It is obvious that the USA and some EU countries are trying to break Syrian sovereignty like the USA did with some country's before. So you can not trust propaganda of western media. When you do some deep research you will find that Assad is a great person and leader.

You all sound like 2 year olds.

"My analogy is correct"
"No! My analogy is much better and precise!"

If we could stop using analogies and just explain it how it is, that'd be great.

P.s. i just used an analogy to critique your analogies.

To be honest I think "leader of a country" and "great person and leader" may be mutually exclusive. I think the USA and EU shouldn't be in Syria at all. I also don't think Assad is a great person, but there likely aren't too many people better than Assad who are willing to replace him.

(Genghis your attempt to stop our analogies is like the Mongols trying to tear down the entire great wall of china. It was never gonna happen.)
A better analogy to all of yours is that Sam, our supplier, finds a bunch of schools where a student is in a fight with a member of the faculty. Sometimes the faculty has instigated the fight through abusiveness, and sometimes the student is a class bully that started the fight. However the fight started, unless Sam knows the teacher personally, Sam almost always gives the weapons to the student. Sometimes Sam decides that the teacher absolutely needs to go down, so they attempt to arm anybody willing to fight the teacher. This often results in the teacher being taken down, then the students turn the weapons on each other and Sam.

Except mongols never tried to destroy the great Wall. We pulled a Fall Gelb.

More correct would be, a guy goes from school to school, finding him some outsiders, supply them with weapons and encourage them to go on a homocidal rampage, so that he can take over the school indirectly, or directly later in justifying his intervention.

He did that in countless schools before, Guatemala Elementary, Honduras Middle School, El Salvador School for Higher Learning, Venezuela University, Ecuador School of Economics, Bolivia Elementary, Lybia Technical University, Vietnam People University, Iraq Modern School and so on, and so on.

While the homicidal maniac with the gun must be stopped, it should be clear who the real bad guy behind all the school killings is and who also must be stopped to prevent future schools from being victimized. Not to mention that he should be put to trial.

This is a very thin analogy, and this must be someone who really likes schools :)

If we could stop using analogies and just explain it how it is, that'd be great.

Analogies help bring it down; they are the graphs of unumeric information.