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Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 03:01:03


knyte 
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http://wl1v1-clot.appspot.com/

Updated to new version ^

Probably buggy af. If you want to help me fix it, PM me with your GitHub username and I'll add you to a group on the site.

I just set this up while I work on the CSL framework because I'm surprised it doesn't exist yet. I'll provide limited repair/support stuff as things proceed. Have fun, I guess.

(Right now, it's literally the CLOT stuff from Fizzer's repo with some very trivial modifications. This is likely just going to be a band-aid until I release a CSL framework-based version. In other words, expect it to be pretty bad. If you want to help or know of any problems I should expect, please PM. Thanks.)

Edited 11/3/2015 08:13:19
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 03:14:56


Benjamin628 
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Don't have it ranked and add more templates (see what others say though) is my only request. Or since you have "Number of Wins" you could match up based on that.

Edited 11/3/2015 03:16:22
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 03:21:25


knyte 
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What do you mean by not having it ranked?

Right now it matches up based on # of wins, from what I can tell, since it just splits the list of unmatched players into pairs without adjusting the order (which should be based on their win-based rank).
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 03:34:18

Master of the Dead 
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How many games does it allot at a time?
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 03:42:08


knyte 
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1, I believe. I don't think Fizzer's original code allows players to be in multiple games at once. If it's a serious issue, I can patch it. Pull requests are also welcome at if you wanna fix it. PM me for the URL to the repo (the code is almost entirely the same as FizzerWL/CLOT so a patch to that should work on my version as well).

Edited 11/3/2015 03:44:46
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 03:47:13


Miles Edgeworth
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I "won" my game against Benjamin, despite the game not even getting to the picking stage:

https://www.warlight.net/multiplayer?GameID=9770687

EDIT: Yes, the link is correct. The game does not exist.

Edited 11/3/2015 03:47:36
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 03:51:47


knyte 
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It's because the CRON job ran twice within a 5-minute span because it was manually called by MotD and then me. CLOT is quite broken. :(

Edited 11/3/2015 03:54:45
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 03:57:43


master of desaster 
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Thank you! Good idea. It hasn't to be perfect when it uses this template
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 04:01:07


knyte 
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Just don't call cron manually again and we'll be fine. >_<
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 04:54:53

Master of the Dead 
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Oops.. sorry for the manual run of the cron.. i was impatient and wanted a game :P

my CLOT code schedules multiple games knyte.. you grab the patch from there if you have time.
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 06:20:42


knyte 
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Thanks for the link. I'm just going to copy that one over with small modifications.
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 08:13:32


knyte 
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Old version is dead. New version can be found at http://wl1v1-clot.appspot.com/.
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 08:19:31


master of desaster 
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The description is not up to date but as long as it's playable it doesn't matter.
100days boot time is too much tough

Edited 11/3/2015 08:20:29
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 08:23:10


knyte 
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I'll edit the template. Forgot about those settings. Fixing the description as well.
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 11:25:25

burro
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"The supplied invite token is invalid. Please contact the CLOT author for assistance."
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 11:51:56


Fleecemaster 
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Looks awesome :)

I've joined to help test, and of course, play! :D

Time to beat up MoD some more ^_^
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 14:00:36


Benjamin628 
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Was the game that I "lost" against Miles deleted? We were both actually kicked from the ladder. I think we should still be able to vote on some good templates, just with this one appearing like 2x more often.

Edited 11/3/2015 14:03:08
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 15:49:03


Beren • apex 
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@Benjamin, that kinda defeats the purpose of resurrecting the old 1v1 ladder doesn't it?
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 15:51:33


Benjamin628 
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Yes, but that was one of the problems of the old 1v1 ladder, and a major, major problem with the new---it gets boring. I will definitely still play this though.
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 16:11:00


AWESOMEGUY 
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Thing is, if you don't want to play the 1v1 ladder because you find it boring, then don't play it. There are going to be games that are interesting, and games that are an absolute borefest. But that's the deal with all templates - you get some good games and you get some bad.

Now, the new ladder is just more noticeable because people pick the same spots, and it's the same strategy every time. With the old ladder, you'd get more diversity and playing strategies.

So, if you find the ladder boring at any time, you can just leave. Same with the old, new and (I assume) this ladder.
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 16:23:25

Master of the Dead 
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Nice!! Now while you're at it, take a look at the ranking algo(assuming you're using the same) and fix it. It's a pesky bug which I'm not able to find :P
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 18:08:10


knyte 
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@burro: it might be because of your level; do you have a higher-level account you could try with?

This is the output when I call your account with the Validate Token API on the template this ladder uses:


u'template655094': {u'reasonCode': u'MultiAttackAndAttackByPercentageLocked', 
u'result': u'CannotUseTemplate'}



@Ben: the old version was entirely thrown out and replaced with one that's based on what MoD made (it's almost entirely his code on top of Fizzer's)

@MoD: I'll try to figure that one out; any details?

So the function calls in clot.py that use the TrueSkill library seem right. I'm going to simulate some ladders and see whether their behavior is affected by the initial mu-sigma setup or whether you need to change something else if you change initial mu sigma since I think that's the likely culprit (as it's the only big thing changed).

Edited 11/3/2015 18:29:57
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 18:40:20


Benjamin628 
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How many games does it allot at a time?

1, I believe.

Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 18:43:16


master of desaster 
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Yeah that changed. He included MotDs clot data. Up to 5 games possible
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 18:49:23


knyte 
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You can adjust the settings on the ladder page: http://wl1v1-clot.appspot.com/lot/5629499534213120
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 18:53:41

Master of the Dead 
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You can play up to 9 games actually :P

@knyte - The Trueskill library was acting funky after a significant number of games. The ratings don't seem to change much after 1000+ games on the CLOT. I can give you access to the other CLOT which has the repro, so you can investigate if you like.
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 18:59:51


knyte 
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Yeah, I'd appreciate that. I assume multi-day-ladder would be an example of that happening?

Also, is this an issue just for the players who've played a lot of games or for new players too?

I've also invited your GitHub account (the one you linked me to) to the GitHub group for all this so you can also fork repos into that if you'd like.

Edited 11/3/2015 19:03:24
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/3/2015 19:12:11

Master of the Dead 
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Check PM. Thanks for the github invite. I'm a bit busy at the moment. Although I may contribute, once I free up.
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/4/2015 08:26:19


master of desaster 
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It works very well so far! :)
Resurrecting the Old 1v1 Ladder: 11/4/2015 17:18:55


Fleecemaster 
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Yes, it works great! Well done to all involved in the creation process, you also have my gratitude as I'm sure from the rest of the community too :)
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