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Warlight Stock Market: 11/24/2015 23:58:15


Benjamin628 
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Welcome Investor! This is the Warlight Stock Exchange (WSE), where you can buy stock in ladder players, and get returns on them when their rating grows. Let's Give an Example Portfolio:

The Example Hedge Fund

5 Shares of Player X - $5,000
2 Shares of Player Y - $2,000

Total Transfer Fees $700
Liquid Assests $42,300
Investment Portfolio $7,000
Total Value $49,300


Your hedge fund or whatever you want to call it will start out with 50,000 dollars, in which you can invest, the price is player rating per share.

Definition of a Player

A player, in this case, is any ladder team. RT Ladder Benjamin and 1v1 Ladder Benjamin are different "people", and you can invest in both of them.

Rules

- Each share you buy or sell will be sold at a transaction fee of $10. If you buy 5 shares and sell 3, that costs $80.
- Dividends are calculated differently for each ladder, and are calculated each third day:

     1v1/RT Ladder - 5*(16-Rank)*Shares
     2v2 Ladder - 10*(11-Rank)*Shares
     3v3 Ladder - 15*(6-Rank)* Shares


- You cannot invest in any CLOT players, or any Seasonal ladder players. This rule may change if I can get confirmation that knyte's CLOT rating is not buggy.
- If your player drops out of the ladder, and becomes unRANKed, the stock value is 0, regardless of rating. These stocks can be renewed to full value of the player rejoins the ladder.
- Each Hedge Fund Starts out with $50,000.

Happy Investing!

Edited 11/27/2015 00:18:22
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 00:06:37


Potatoe
Level 56
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What?

How does the price of your stock rise or lowers?
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 00:09:39


Legacy 
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Questing about rules, let's say you invest money into a person who then drops out of the ladder. Since that person is now unranked, do you lose all the money invested? Let's say yes, which should make it fun to invest in the RT ladder players. :D

How is the 'cost' of a share in a person calculated?


@Platinum,

The value of the stock will rise or lower depending on that player's rating in the ladder. So, let's say you think a player is undervalued in the ladder, if you invest in them and their rating skyrockets, you'll get a fair amount of $$$$.

Edited 11/25/2015 00:10:48
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 00:15:01


Benjamin628 
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Sure, but I don't want to spend too much time on this, so I'll just let you make up rules :P
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 00:16:43


Legacy 
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Ahh, I figured it out. So, the top-performing players are actually really expensive o_O
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 00:23:14


Legacy 
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Alright. I'll enter the market.



I'm investing in five shares of AWESOMEGUY Realtime ladder, for a total of $8940.

I'll also invest in five shares of Legacy Realtime ladder, for a total of $8775.

I'll also buy 10 shares of Nogals RT ladder, for a total of $10740.




I'll be mailing the respective corporations I've invested in.

This leaves me with $21,545 left to spend as I see fit--let me know if you believe you are a viable candidate for investment.
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 00:46:18


Legacy 
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Next rule; let's not edit posts that buy/sell shares. That way, it is easier to keep track of it correctly.
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 01:04:09

Master Bjarke
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it you want this to work somewhat properly, do not allow investment in seasonal ladder. Rating there goes up like crazy.
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 01:04:13


Another
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History of Another's Transactions:
Recieved $50,000 from Bank.

Edited 11/25/2015 22:26:08
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 01:05:19


Legacy 
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I have also decided to buy two shares of ICEMAN 1V1.


This brings me to

AWESOMEGUY RT; 5 shares valued at $8940

LEGACY RT; 5 shares valued at $8775

NOGALS RT; 10 shares valued at $10740

ICEMAN 1V1; 2 shares valued at $3672
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 01:11:28


Legacy 
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No seasonal ladder transactions, hmm? If Benjamin agrees, it becomes law.






Kasparov, CEO of Kasparov Hedge Fund


Current standing;
AWESOMEGUY RT; 5 shares valued at $8940

LEGACY RT; 5 shares valued at =(1775*5) $8775

NOGALS RT; 10 shares valued at =(1074*10) $10740

ICEMAN 1V1; 2 shares valued at =(1836*2) $3672

Liquid assets: $17873
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 01:18:36

Master of the Dead 
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This is a fascinating idea!

I agree as well that seasonal shouldn't count due to it's volatility.

I also think there needs to be some concept of "dividends". otherwise, there is no incentive to invest in the higher ranked players.

Ex -

1v1 ladder
(30-rank)* 10 $ per day. if rank < 30
0. if rank > 30

2v2 ladder
(15-rank)* 20 $ per day. if rank < 15
0. if rank > 15


I'm sure someone can come up with a better function than me.
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 01:21:55


Legacy 
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I like this thought as well. If Benjamin approves, the dividends for top 30 of 1v1 ladder/top 15 of 2v2 ladder become law ;)

As founder of the WL Stock Market, he gets final say.





Kasparov, CEO of Kasparov Hedge Fund


Current standing;
AWESOMEGUY RT; 5 shares valued at $8940

LEGACY RT; 5 shares valued at =(1775*5) $8775

NOGALS RT; 10 shares valued at =(1074*10) $10740

ICEMAN 1V1; 2 shares valued at =(1836*2) $3672

Liquid assets: $17873

Edited 11/25/2015 01:23:45
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 01:22:00


Darth Grover
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This is not a "Stock Market", it's gambling.
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 01:22:45


Legacy 
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How is a stock market not gambling? And then, how does that not correlate to what we're doing here? Lol.




Kasparov, CEO of Kasparov Hedge Fund


Current standing;
AWESOMEGUY RT; 5 shares valued at =(1788*5) $8940

LEGACY RT; 5 shares valued at =(1775*5) $8775

NOGALS RT; 10 shares valued at =(1074*10) $10740

ICEMAN 1V1; 2 shares valued at =(1836*2) $3672

Liquid assets: $17873

Edited 11/25/2015 01:24:13
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 01:31:05

[wolf]japan77
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The stock market is legalized gambling. Funded by Corporations who need the cash of investors.

Edited 11/25/2015 01:31:25
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 01:37:13


Genghis 
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Holy shit there's gonna be so much inflation.
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 01:38:02


Another
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Except you can win at this gambling.
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 01:41:10


Legacy 
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Holy shit there's gonna be so much inflation.




Not really. The only massive inflation occurs in the seasonal ladders; the other ladders have relatively stable ratings. It's actually fairly difficult to sustain a rise in your own rating, so any changes will be relatively small. Our stocks will inflate if people invest wisely -- if not, it will deflate.

Remember that a stock will never continue gaining indefinitely. You will eventually want to sell before a player drops out of the ladder, as your shares become $0 if that person is unranked.





Kasparov, CEO of Kasparov Hedge Fund


Current standing;
AWESOMEGUY RT; 5 shares valued at $8940

LEGACY RT; 5 shares valued at =(1775*5) $8775

NOGALS RT; 10 shares valued at =(1074*10) $10740

ICEMAN 1V1; 2 shares valued at =(1836*2) $3672

Liquid assets: $17873

Edited 11/25/2015 01:41:24
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 01:58:14


Benjamin628 
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Benjamin agrees to both of those, and sells his investments in #QB.

@MotD How about:

(30/(Players per Team)-Rank)*(10*players per team)

Thus, the top player of the 1v1/RT ladder would get $290 a day, top 2v2 ladder team would get $280 a day, top 3v3 ladder would get $270 a day.

Update: I sell all shares of Dead Piggy stock, and buy 3 shares of Arkanton 1v1 Ladder, and 1 share of MW + Yeon 2v2 Ladder.
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Benjamin628, CEO of the Mountain Hedge Fund, President of the Warlight Stock Market

- 5 Shares of 1v1 Ladder Jz - $10,035
- 3 Shares of 1v1 Ladder Benjamin628 - $4,599
- 5 Shares of 3v3 Ladder Myhand? - $9,565
- 3 Shares of 1v1 Ladder Arkanton - $6,360
- 1 Share of 2v2 Ladder MW + Yeon - $2,139
Liquid Assets $32,698
Total Hedge Fund Value $50,003


Edited 11/25/2015 02:31:00
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 02:23:35


Legacy 
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Kasparov Hedge Fund reports its first loss. Rumors say the CEO is thoroughly pissed off at himself.
The evening closes (probably) at -0.37%.





AWESOMEGUY RT; 5 shares valued at $8940

LEGACY RT; 5 shares valued at =(1775*5) $8775

NOGALS RT; 10 shares valued at =(1074*10) $10740

ICEMAN 1V1; 2 shares valued at =(1836*2) $3672

Liquid assets: $17873
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 02:30:09


Legacy 
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Due to the new laws of dividends, the hudge fund chooses to invest its remaining liquid assets in MR. Z 1V1, who has not left the top 30 since November 2014.





Current Standings:

AWESOMEGUY RT; 5 shares valued at $8940

LEGACY RT; 5 shares valued at =(1775*5) $8775

NOGALS RT; 10 shares valued at =(1074*10) $10740

ICEMAN 1V1; 2 shares valued at =(1836*2) $3672

MR. Z 1V1; 8 shares valued at =(2121*8) $16968

Liquid assets; $905
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 02:31:55


Benjamin628 
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From this point on all transactions now cost 50$ :)

Get a clan mate to play, and I will transfer 100$ from my Hedge Fund to yours.

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Benjamin628, CEO of the Mountain Hedge Fund, President of the Warlight Stock Market

5 Shares of 1v1 Ladder Jz - $10,035
3 Shares of 1v1 Ladder Benjamin628 - $4,599 
5 Shares of 3v3 Ladder Myhand? - $9,565
3 Shares of 1v1 Ladder Arkanton - $6,375
1 Share of 2v2 Ladder MW + Yeon - $2,139

Liquid Assets $32,713
Total Hedge Fund Value $50,018


Edited 11/25/2015 02:36:33
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 02:33:39

E Masterpierround
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I buy 20 shares of https://www.warlight.net/LadderTeam?LadderTeamID=10825 @ $1994 apiece

Transaction fees :( - $200

Summary:
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20 shares 1v1 ladder awesomeusername: $39,880
Liquid assets: $9,920
total value: $49,800

Edited 11/25/2015 03:02:12
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 02:34:40


Legacy 
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!!! Owch, transaction fees.
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 02:37:04


Benjamin628 
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@E Master Yes. Please try to be organized, and roleplay :P

Like this:

E Masterpierround's Hedge Fund
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20 Shares of 1v1 Ladder awesomeusername - $39880

Liquid Assests $39880
Transfer Fees $1000
Total Value $49000


Edited 11/25/2015 02:40:06
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 02:37:18


Legacy 
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@MasterPierre, if you could list your remaining funds (liquid assets) as well, that'd be great. Gotta keep the market transparent. ;)
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 02:40:22


Legacy 
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Benjamin, with dividends can we assume they are paid at midnight at whatever time period a person happens to be in? Or do you have another time in mind?
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 02:40:25

E Masterpierround
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Was waiting for answer before posting liquid assets. Also, can we standardize when dividends are calculated? GMT midnight?
Warlight Stock Market: 11/25/2015 02:42:04


Legacy 
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^Standardizing dividend pay-time is probably the most logical choice.
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