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Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/27/2015 22:00:25


[WOLF] Colonel H Cardwell
Level 50
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So I'm just traipsing through the forums and I come across this guy from a clan I previously paid little if any attention to called 'AOE'. The player commented on a thread with a completely different topic saying that AOE is a diplo clan with a "government and senate" which members can join and be a part of... basically the exact same as the Wolves, Vitrix, the Falcons and a few others.
What I want to ask this clan's leadership is: why??
When there are so many clans doing exactly the same thing, it becomes boring. Do something completely unique.
What's wrong with VM, TLW or TRF that you have to go and create your own new clone?
The Falcons are more democratic.
The Wolves are a bigger community.
Vitrix has a good reputation and is relatively stable.
So why?
If you'd have asked me, I'd have invited you to the Falcons or contacted my friends in the Wolves or VM abd asked them to invite you...
So why ANOTHER diplo/rp clan?

Please, please: don't copy us... Use your bloody imagination and come up with something new.

Thanks. Have a nice day.
Colonel.
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/27/2015 22:11:11


Lolicon love 
Level 56
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Someone's butthurt.
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/27/2015 22:14:48


OxTheAutist 
Level 58
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Calm it. It's not like you "invented" these bad fake-hierarchy systems. VM and Wolves are hardly similar to that sort of clan-government type by now, anyway.
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/27/2015 22:26:59


OnlyThePie
Level 53
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Because people like to do their own thing. It wont be identical. You need to chill. This is like saying "Why would you make a new 1v1 clan, there are already a lot" or even "Why would you make ANY new clan, there are already a lot" so shut your jealous mouth and bugger off.
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/27/2015 22:51:18

Luna {TJC}
Level 56
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Come to think of it AOE have been around for at least a month if not more there not that new. I mean there even in the RP clan league.
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/27/2015 22:52:08


DarrenDieHard 
Level 60
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The answer is often: because they want to be in a clan with their own friends doing their own thing and not in someone elses clan. Bigger question is why does it bug you so much. Its not affecting you in the slightest, so let them have their own fun.
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/27/2015 23:32:28


[WOLF] Colonel H Cardwell
Level 50
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Who says it bugs me?

@Darren: Btw ur profile pic is horrendous.
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/28/2015 00:02:09


OxTheAutist 
Level 58
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You clearly explained your frustration. It clearly bugs you.
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/28/2015 00:07:03


Lolicon love 
Level 56
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yeah you make a thread on how people should stop doing something which you are doing because you say you have done it first. Not annoyed at all.
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/28/2015 02:40:26


[Wolf] Relmcheatham
Level 56
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AOE was led by a Wolf member named "The Conservative" who helped it get some members while he was there, I guess he just copied our government system in his way.
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/28/2015 10:44:44


4Chan
Level 18
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former rp clan member speaking





lel shut up phaggots if you weren't allowed to have orginal ideas then there would only be one democracy, one kingdom, one theocracy and one republic

and one tribe.


Ya jealous, bruh?
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/28/2015 17:40:28

PoorRichard
Level 29
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the main difference between AOE and the Falcons is their origin stories and their themes. Also AOE actually does stuff.
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/28/2015 17:55:48


Onoma94
Level 59
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Weird newsflash, they were around for almost 2 months now and already caused some drama. :p Also they were very actively recruiting some time ago, idk if they still are.
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/28/2015 19:03:50


[WOLF] The Conservative
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AOE Was founded as an Rp Diplomacy Clan That Wanted fairness for all its members because as with most clans....the new and little guys get little attention ( that I have seen with most big clans ). Colonel....it seems the all basis of your argument is " we don't need any more Diplomacy Clans, Go home "? what does it matter? its just a clan and quite frankly a pretty good one in activity ( at least when I was there ). I remember when I was leading it I would have a lot of older Warlight members mock me for letting in " noobs " and I would just laugh in their faces because it just showed their arrogance and over self worth. AOE accepted anyone who wanted a friendly clan with nice people. the only people we would not allow in our clan were known pe's like Sun God. yes, if we were a power hungry competitive clan we would want only the best players in our clan however we are not that. AOE is just a community based off anyone who wants to join. and I clearly did not copy The Wolves Or the Falcons ( I am not a falcon fan ). First of all, AOE had both proctors and a senate. I didt want to create a million branchs of government so I kept it simple. the proctors were given certain duties like recruiting Etc and the senate were a group of active players who helped me govern. it was the most effective government I have ever seen on Warlight. we got done in days what it took The wolves or Falcons months of arguing to do. I gave my leadership to a trusted friend who I believed could run the government well because 1 I am at heart a wolf 2 I new the clan could never grow as long as it had the " your leader is a former wolf therefor you are their bitches " sign over their heads. in ending, me and a few friends accomplished something really good and awesome that new and old clans would be wise to follow after.....which is being a nice friendly clan who respects and pays attention to all its members. while people may mock that clan...I firmly believe that one day...most clans will adopt and follow that same form of government and that same philosophy. now I could be wrong....but I am willing to bet I am not. and to answer Colonels qus....no...fair representing and accepting good people never gets boring to me....and it should not to you
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/28/2015 19:10:23


[WOLF] The Conservative
Level 56
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and if you think creating diplomacy clans is" coping " you....your stupidly blind
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/28/2015 19:13:32


[WOLF] The Conservative
Level 56
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i suggest thinking about what i have said before going on forums and mocking clans simply because you believe we " don't need them "

yours truly The Conservative


have nice day you cunt
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/28/2015 19:37:57


[Wolf] Relmcheatham
Level 56
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The conservative speaks on his own behalf, not the Republican party or Behalf on the Wolves.


I do agree with him but this disclaimer is neccisary
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/28/2015 19:38:57

HomeLess
Level 55
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even though they are a clan of contradictions and humorous ironies AOE seems like a nice enough community.
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/28/2015 19:40:32


OxTheAutist 
Level 58
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I don't exactly agree with the whole "democratic government" system, but AOE seems like a nice place. Much nicer than Colonel for sure :D
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/28/2015 19:50:24


[WOLF] The Conservative
Level 56
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Colonels post was outrageous and uncalled for. AOE has been nothing but friendly to all clans and all players yet Assholes like Colonel have the nerve to stand on his dam high horse and say hes better. people in that clan are nice, caring, friendly people who deserve better then this. if i remember correctly also colonel led the royal entente ( it might have been the royal empire ) and it made no progress whatsoever and yet hes telling AOE they are not good at clan government when they made a sharp rise in the clan standing and by far surpassed his old clan which he led! i find that really funny indedd

Edited 11/28/2015 19:52:01
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/28/2015 20:55:34


Жұқтыру
Level 55
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AOE is another useless clan that is not needed. It is easy to make a clan like this that sucks. That's why I'm still working on making A.D. more.
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/28/2015 22:51:10


[WOLF]HoustonLeHammer
Level 58
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Will you guys shut it? Guess what? The game stays up with people buying clans!

You should be happy another clan is born, I am.

And I'm betting Fizzer is also.
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/28/2015 23:34:37


[WOLF] The Conservative
Level 56
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I always did like you Houston lol
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/29/2015 01:11:37


[WOLF]HoustonLeHammer
Level 58
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;)
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/29/2015 02:29:42


[AOE] JaiBharat909
Level 56
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As the new leader of AOE I have no intention of getting involved in a pissing match with anyone or another clan. We will grow, slowly and surely, and hopefully we can lead by example that our clan government is the best type. Hope everyone had a good thanksgiving.
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/29/2015 03:02:02


[WOLF] The Conservative
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You see Colonel, that's what real leadership looks like. I dare say my apprentice has surpassed you by far in grace and respect
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/29/2015 04:50:16


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/29/2015 06:29:01


[LN] Lion
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I'll laugh if the Wolves have anything to say about the LN :)
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/29/2015 14:37:43


[WOLF] The Conservative
Level 56
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Why's that?
Another "RP" Clan??!: 11/29/2015 14:48:45


OxTheAutist 
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and hopefully we can lead by example that our clan government is the best type.


Ok, fine. AOE might have the most successful WL "government" out there. But I'll never agree that it is the "best type". The best type of "clan government" would be 1 solid, well rounded leader, who can make smart, thought out decisions by herself/himself, without the help of others. S/he would theoretically represent all of his/her clanmates whether that be providing diplomacy games, strategic tournaments, or an active community for their clanmates to enjoy. Clearly, it's very hard to find said individual. There is no such thing as a 100% reliable person, so some sort of "council" must be made. M'Hunters have it, CORP have it, Wolves have it, GG have it, among others, all in different forms. It's a way to ensure you don't have 1 crazy "Marksman-esque" type leader.

This bullshit type of "democratic government" I don't think is good. I don't think it's good because it makes clan members have to contribute towards the clan to keep it afloat. This is bad, because in some cases people are putting forward more than they're receiving. If I'm a person who joined a clan to be provided with games and a community, I don't want to be a fundamental aspect for helping the clan function. I want to make friends and play games/tournaments with said friends. You don't need "elections" to decide the leaders. You need one central form of management to appoint competent leaders positions of power. You don't need a "constitution". Managers should feel to either (dictatorially, if 1, put to a vote if 3-6. Anything 7+ is madness) add, subtract, divide, or multiply rules if needed, and there shouldn't be huge fusses about "Oh no! We can't AMEND the holy constitution! It's not possible the original author of it could have possibly made a MISTAKE in it! We have to make some crazy bill and put it through 3 stages for anything reasonable to happen! Aaaah!"

tl;dr Clan "governments" tend to fail. (E.g: TLW, TRF, etc.) Ergo, they are not the best type of clan management system.
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