If you honestly think that Trump has viable options on the economy and foreign relations then you're whats wrong with America

1. Plays from South Africa
2. I never said anything about Trump's foreign relations.

When I said I was implying something, I meant that M'Hunters is where mouthy pricks, such as yourself belong, nothing to do with South Africa at all.

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Nogals, really you have no clue...
What's wrong with America is that it's 17 trillion in debt and people like YOU advocate not voting for the only candidate that can and will fix it.
At least most of the Reps will attempt to, not like Clinton who is running on a platform of more Obamarism "except shes a woman".

Jeezus, it looks like this guy will never learn to use paragraphs.

The stupidity of not being able to learn such simple things astounds me.

btw - why there is no map "democrats vs republicans"? it could contain those funny elephant and donkey divided into samller territories?? And maybe White House between them?

Or sth like that:



Come on Murica- make that map!!

Oh, that looks like a good map right there.

Who can map-ify that thing?

You do realize that South Africa was colonized by the Dutch right Nogals?



So.....Your South Afrikans can suck my large dutch shlong :)

Cool! but ohio is actually more republican

Ohio's a quintessential swing state. It's voted Democratic in 2008 and 2012 and Republican in 2000 and 2004.

Yeah, Ohio is historically R.
Both R's and D's have no idea what happened in 2012.

I didn't even look at the states.

Here are the actual 2012 results:

...sorry for the thread derailment

Ohio historically tends to vote for the winning candidate. It wouldn't make sense to categorize it as either R or D.

knyte - are you from Ohio?

I'm from Ohio. We had to learn about he U.S. presidents "from" Ohio in school. We had three in a row. Someone shot the third one. So Ohio took a break after that.

8 presidents overall. 7 were republicans. One was from the whig party (I know, right!).

When I say "from" I mean it in the weakest possible sense.
- Banjamin Harrison was born in Ohio but really lived in Indiana.
- We stole W.H. Harrison from Virginia or something.
...it's a Harrison thing.

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Kynte was from India, then California, then Texas, and is studying college at CMU.

It's on his profile if I remember correctly.

Generally, states aren't politically classified based on all 50-250 years of their history, since we've gone through multiple re-alignments.

Like most states, Ohio has historically voted Republican more than it has Democratic- as we've had more Republican presidents than Democratic ones. However, again, if we're discussing the political classification of states in any modern contexts, usually only the last decade's worth of presidential elections is considered.

If you adjust the timeframe, you can arrive at any result. Last two elections? Overwhelmingly Democratic. Last four? Split. In the 2000's? Overwhemingly Republican? (That said, the margin of victory was low each time- as you would expect from a swing state).

All Texan-born Presidents have been Democratic (LBJ; oddly enough, in our history books, we honestly don't really count the Bushes- I lived 5mi or so away from Bush 41 and we still didn't consider him a Texan). That does not make Texas a Democratic state. California's last President- Reagan- was a Republican- but California has been Democratic in the past few elections (supplying a very large portion of the Democrats' support and becoming the poster child for liberal economic and environmental policy) although California has historically voted Republican very often- just taking a short break during the first half of the Fifth Party System because party re-alignments are a thing and the Republicans and Democrats both shifted in the 1990s to the point it doesn't make sense to base states' political classifications based on pre-Bush 41 voting patterns.

Edit: Also I'd rather die from ebola than be from Ohio.

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I think I caught your humor.
All Texan presidents were democratic?
You only have LBJ, Bush, and Bush... Dem, Rep, and Rep.

It sounds like someone is upset that the Bush family owns Texas.

Why am I being considered a terrible person? I leave the clan running to Cade because I gave him the clan leadership, and am focusing on gameplay.

Well we also had Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Kain. PLEASE MAKE THAT MAP!!! PLEASE!!!

@Scotty: LBJ is the only "true" Texan president since he's the only one who was born and bred Texan. Bush family's just a bunch of Yankee impostors. That's just the standard narrative.

That's the fun thing about Texas, the only native-born Texan president is the one everyone hates, and by everyone I mean just about everyone outside the liberal cores, just go find a map, select every region in texas that votes more than 80% democrat, and that's a liberal core if it isn't on the border to find them, which is kinda funny.