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Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 05:00:59


[Wolf] Relmcheatham
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Christians in America are exactly where the Jews were in 1930's Germany. I am not saying that we will be put in camps and slaughtered, but I am saying that the "Politically Correct" & Liberal media will come to persecute the great Christians who are grounded in faith, because we oppose both of their views. Let us celebrate Christmas wholeheartedly, reminding ourselves of the Birth of Jesus (even if he was born in June), the morals of Christianity, and the importance of Family. Let us all have safe travel this holiday season.


God Be With You,
-Eric (Relm) Cheatham
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 05:06:25


Genghis 
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I hardly think Christians are being persecuted like the jews were. I'm hoping you just made a random spout of words and don't really mean this at all.
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 05:14:34


kynte
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^ He probably does, but ah well. The people who sign posts with their real names on this site are generally pretty depressing.

Hope you're having a good day anyhow!
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 05:17:14


[Wolf] Relmcheatham
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I meant the early stages of persecution, just watch Ghengis, a few years from now persecution of Christians from certain groups will grow even more.



P.S. the persecution thing was a reference to a high standing Jew in jerusalems words to a Christian

Edited 12/25/2015 05:18:01
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 05:19:58

Velenah
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Your an idiot.

I mean you are a complete and utter idiot.

Christians in American are in the early stages if Nazism. Trump is set to be the next Fuhrer.
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 05:25:51


kynte
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You realize you're still like 75%+ of the population, right? Like y'all are still placing Ten Commandments stuff outside of courthouses, discussing kicking out other religions from the country, teaching religion in public schools, etc.?

I wouldn't worry about persecution just yet. :P
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 06:30:58


Lord of Turnips
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@ Velenah, you say he is an idiot but you basically agree with him. Also, in America some people say that their religion is Jedi.

Edited 12/25/2015 06:31:22
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 06:45:21


knyte 
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@Turnips: Velenah says the exact opposite- Relm says the Christians are Jews circa 1925, Velenah says they're Germans circa 1933
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 07:16:23


Dr. Stupid 
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As a Christian in America, I disagree with OP very greatly. I hear a lot of cries of persecution from Christians in the US, but when they get slapped with a fine for not making a cake for a homosexual wedding, they cry persecution. Historically, torture and death is persecution. Not once have I felt myself or any member of my family was in any physical danger *because* of our Christianity.

I also disagree with the person stating that America is 75% Christian. It really depends on what you define as a Christian. I define a Christian as a person who is trusting Jesus only for their salvation and sanctification and are following His teachings. The 75% who label themselves "Christians" are no more Christians than I am a fern. If I had to guess (and it's only a guess), I would say less than 6-7% of us are actually Christians.

A note on Biblical persecution: The Bible teaches quite clearly that ALL believers will suffer persecution. It is possible that we will eventually see persecution of Christians in the USA and the Bible even indicates that it is an inevitability. But we're not there yet. I will be extremely honest when I say that the fact that the Bible teaches ALL believers will experience persecution coupled with the fact that I am not personally experiencing any persecution does cause me some disquiet on a spiritual level.
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 07:45:15


knyte 
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I also disagree with the person stating that America is 75% Christian. It really depends on what you define as a Christian. I define a Christian as a person who is trusting Jesus only for their salvation and sanctification and are following His teachings. The 75% who label themselves "Christians" are no more Christians than I am a fern. If I had to guess (and it's only a guess), I would say less than 6-7% of us are actually Christians.


6-7% of Americans are Christian, and therefore there's an entire wing of a major political party controlled by a subset of Christianity.

You might be taking the redefinition logic a little bit too far here, bud.
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 07:50:35


Genghis 
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I disagree with your number dr. Stupid.

We can interpret the bible in different ways and thus come to different conclusions on how to best serve the Lord above (as i understand it).

Not to mention, just because a person has a set of beliefs or morals does not necessarily mean they follow those morals. You may believe in honesty but you've likely lied before. But it might be more important to acknowledge that you're doing something immoral rather than just beingmoral all the time.
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 08:39:47

wct
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What a joke. Isn't it embarrassing to Americans that you have so many people among you who believe this crap? That's how you got Bush Jr. twice, BTW. It's not just an idle question. It has real-world effects, and not just within America either (e.g. Iraq).

Edited 12/25/2015 08:54:26
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 08:46:40

wct
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I also disagree with the person stating that America is 75% Christian. It really depends on what you define as a Christian. I define a Christian as a person who is trusting Jesus only for their salvation and sanctification and are following His teachings. The 75% who label themselves "Christians" are no more Christians than I am a fern. If I had to guess (and it's only a guess), I would say less than 6-7% of us are actually Christians.


You're right it depends on how you define Christian, but some definitions are more useful than others. Why don't you just define Christian as "Someone who believes exactly as I do", making you the only Christian in America?

To the rest of the world, who want to communicate with commonly understood definitions, the US is roughly 75% Christian.
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 10:33:42


Arsteel
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I would personally place the number around 40-66%. Also, America is having severe attacks on Christians all around, First by LGTB (Don´t you dare argue that one with me) and now RADICAL Muslims. Nazi stages, yes. Would it make it as far? No. Should it be dealt with? Yes. Will it? Probably not. Trump is the only person actually saying he is going to do something as president, and he actually enjoys (shudder) running for election. He thinks its fun. Just watch him. He´s having a blast.

Edited 12/25/2015 10:35:39
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 10:41:24

wct
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severe attacks on Christians all around

Riiiiiight. 'Severe attacks' you say. Name one Christian in the US who's been 'severely attacked' for being Christian.

Meanwhile, in ISIS controlled territories.....
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 11:53:16


SirSalty
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Cleetus get my shotgun.....a religious debate is happening.
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 13:36:49


GeneralPE
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"Like y'all are still placing Ten Commandments stuff outside of courthouses, discussing kicking out other religions from the country, teaching religion in public schools, etc.?"

That is just wrong. In every way. Any public show of faith is considered insensitive. Teachers encourage atheism openly. They bash Christians for the Crusades, Nazism, etc, all while denigrating the existence of Israel and promoting 'diversity' that is code for Non-Christianity. I go to the schools. Trust me. In this younger generation, I see virtually no God-fearing children. We do promote religion is school, but it is Islam and atheism, not Christianity.

We never want to kick people out (no one I have ever heard, at least). We just want a TEMPORARY hold on Muslim immigration until ISIS ad radical Islam are dealt with.

Edited 12/25/2015 13:38:06
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 13:40:23


GeneralPE
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"Riiiiiight. 'Severe attacks' you say. Name one Christian in the US who's been 'severely attacked' for being Christian."

Well, the guys in San Bernardino for starters. And to finish your statement "Meanwhile, in ISIS controlled territories....." Christians are being slaughtered and persecution so that soon enough the religion of Christ shall not exist in the Middle East except in Israel.
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 14:49:26


Major General Smedley Butler
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Promoting Islam? What you smokin on and where can I get some ?
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 15:03:40


[WOLF] Colonel H Cardwell
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I hereby denounce the Confederate flag of America.
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 15:09:24


knyte 
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Uh, there's a difference between public displays of faith (which are never under attack and are constitutionally protected) and using the state to promote one's beliefs (which violate literally the very first part of the Bill of Rights).

You can pray in school, but you can't use your position as a teacher to make your students pray.

Also what reality are y'all living in? Where the fuck are teachers promoting atheism?
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 16:31:28


[WOLF] Colonel H Cardwell
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If my kid came home thinking humans evolved from apes, I'd be mad.
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 16:33:08


Major General Smedley Butler
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Then don't send them to a secular school.
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 16:42:17

Velenah
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I would be more upset if they came home thinking Cormac McCarthy was literature.
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 17:05:41


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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Sigh....

You guys are clearly missing the point of Christmas. And I'm not even Christian!!
Christian Christmas Message: 12/25/2015 18:39:27


Tiny Koala
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In the 1930s, Jews were about 1% of the population of Germany, and the government passed laws identifying Jews as an inferior race. By the late 1930s, laws were passed segregating Jews from economic and cultural life of Germany: they were forced into ghettos, their property was seized, they could not attend public schools or even walk in certain areas. By 1939, over half of all German Jews had fled the country, leaving behind their friends, family members, jobs, property, and much of their familiar culture.

In the 2010s, over 70% of Americans self-identify as Christian, including the vast majority of elected officials. Christians enjoy the same Constitutional protections as all religions, and additionally enjoy the privileged status of being the culturally and politically dominant group. However, evolution is taught in public schools.

So yes, I see where you're coming from; definitely many parallels there.

Or maybe, comparing your trials and tribulations (having to deal with people who don't share your beliefs) to those of Jews living in Germany in the 1930s (who lost everything) is absurd and insensitive.


Edit: Plus, Merry Christmas!

Edited 12/25/2015 19:00:18
Christian Christmas Message: 12/26/2015 02:15:42


shyb
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don't forget the reason for the season:

Christian Christmas Message: 12/26/2015 02:23:25


OnlyThePie
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I think shyb just saved Christmas everybody
Christian Christmas Message: 12/26/2015 02:37:41


Mister Kl
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my mom was watching my screen when i scrolled over that


fuck u shyb, lol
Christian Christmas Message: 12/26/2015 03:44:02

wct
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"Riiiiiight. 'Severe attacks' you say. Name one Christian in the US who's been 'severely attacked' for being Christian."

Well, the guys in San Bernardino for starters.

You mean the shooting at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, which is a facility for "more than 30,200 people with developmental disabilities and their families in San Bernardino and Riverside counties"? You think they were targeted specifically because they were Christian? Can you support that claim with evidence? It's more likely that they were killed because they were not Muslim (the 'right' kind of Muslim, that is) than that they were specifically Christian. One victim was a "very devout" Messianic Jew who knew one of the shooters personally (worked with him apparently). Source: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/12/victims-of-the-shooting-in-san-bernardino.html

This article says nothing about targeting people because they were Christian: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/12/shooting-in-san-bernardino.html

You know, there's a difference between violence targeted at Christians and violence targeted at non-Muslims, right?

And to finish your statement "Meanwhile, in ISIS controlled territories....." Christians are being slaughtered and persecution so that soon enough the religion of Christ shall not exist in the Middle East except in Israel.

Exactly the point! This is *real* 'severe attacks', and it's *not* happening in the US. Do you get it now?
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