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How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 17:23:13

GetPuzzled
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There's 0 places to look for strategies because there are so many maps and different settings
How the heck do you get good at this game to the point you can win tournaments? O_O
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 17:25:37


Fan the Apostle
Level 56
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Time really , you will not become #1 in the ladder overnight. Let your natural skill improve
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 17:34:22

MRSKILL45
Level 51
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I was good as now as i started the game. There are some basic skills you get by doing things, solve puzzles or by understanding math rules.

To win a tournament getting higher a ladder means absolutly nothing. Because of luck and manipulation.

Its like you would play a huge FFA and many players work covered together.

You could give me a (some) replay(s), then i can give you advice, if you really do anything wrong.

Edited 12/28/2015 17:36:14
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 17:38:22


master of desaster 
Level 66
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I like that part about the tournaments and ladders. So ridiculous.

My advice: play with as good players as possible, play the ladders and ask whenever possible what you did wrong. Watch and play WGL. Think about picks, their mechanics, not only "i want that bonus and counter the other bonus, picks done".
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 17:40:00


(ง︡'-'︠)ง let's fight!! 
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How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 17:44:02

Konkwær III
Level 54
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^(I'm not sure what this means, MRSKILL, you appear to have some words switched.)
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You'll naturally get better as you play the game longer.

There are some good guides online that you can read.
They should cover basic ideas that can be applied to most maps and settings.

Edited 12/28/2015 17:45:43
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 17:46:23

MRSKILL45
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Master of desaster
"I like the part about play with as good players as possible and ladders."

Till now i havent checked out the warlight ladder, because the game settings are crap. But i have only seen manipulated ladders and pro scenes till now, why warlight should be a exception?
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 17:55:10


Sephiroth
Level 61
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Here is what really helped me improve:


Odin's strategy guide

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/34678-gg-warlight-strategy-guide


TWM's live tournaments commentary

strat 1v1 0%WR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm2AQtgE0rs&list=PLlRHonEXaeHkmdjWnokiPcfRJVDrl-Tdu

strat Greece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocKsethVSnM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3GkhKTk0v8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gE19Sr-tMI


Asking good players to play against me

Getting stomped by players that play better than you and asking them to point out your mistakes is a great way to improve


The will to look for my mistakes and try to better moves

Learning to blame losses on yourself and not on luck or whatever else goes a long way! Also 99% of the times you win, you'll be able to find something you could have done better


Not giving a fuck about winrates

1. They don't mean a thing
2. Once you get better they'll just grow naturally. You can hide them on your profile if you feel they are too low and don't want to show them


Good luck, hope that helps!
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 18:05:46

MRSKILL45
Level 51
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Better you ask me. In all the other games i was always better than the best. Because they play for a "show" or use manipulated arguments and strategys.

Edited 12/28/2015 18:07:38
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 19:16:04


Master Jz 
Level 62
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One of the best ways for me to learn a template is to play it on the seasonal ladder. Since I only have 20 games, I usually focus a lot better and spend more time thinking about each move (and plan a turn or few in advance). I work way harder at those games, and by the time the season is done I'm generally a much better player and able to play the template well at a much faster speed. My first season helped me on other templates as well.

Other things that helped me:
1. Watching top match-ups on the ladders
2. Reviewing my games for mistakes and good moves
3. Having someone take the time to give some advice
4. Understanding that in cycle move order, you have to figure out the order, it doesn't just tell you like in no-luck cycle
5. Listing all of the possible pick combinations you can get and taking the pick order into account when picking (123, 124, 125, 126, 134, 135, 136, 145, 234, 235, 236)
6. Counting/calculating
7. Playing quick games on the template I want to learn and trying several different strategies to see what works
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 20:15:42


Deadman 
Level 64
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Damn.. I miss TWM :(
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 20:42:13

MRSKILL45
Level 51
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Looks like he dont read it. Whatever noone need to take ladders/rankings/pro scenes serious their are all manipulated.
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 20:55:34


Tiny Koala
Level 58
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Sephiroth has some good advise.

I suggest: review the games of good players (available on the ladder), thinking about what you'd do at each move, and trying to figure out why they did what they did. Play against good players, either in a clan, on a ladder, or tournaments. Don't waste your time on open games, except occasionally; you'll usually get matched against very bad players, and playing them won't help you improve.

Most of all, invest some time and thought into your games, both during the game, and after the game when you get a chance to review it. If you just play thoughtlessly, and never try to figure out what happened, you won't improve.

Edit: an alternate path to becoming a great player, is to convince yourself that you're already a great player. Other people may harbor doubts about your ability, and you may have to avoid ladders and tournaments; however, you'll get the satisfaction of feeling like a great player without having to think very hard.

Edited 12/28/2015 20:59:53
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 21:12:21

Help
Level 58
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Play natural.

Don't steal other playstyles and watch WGL or Warlight Youtube.
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 21:16:22


Buns157 
Level 68
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Pick decent spots, expand decently, make decent delays before attacking and then attack right decently.

And then you win.
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 21:17:42

Konkwær III
Level 54
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So...what your saying is all ya got to do is be decent, and you win?
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 21:19:08

MRSKILL45
Level 51
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It looks like this thread is just for fun. Whatever, if you have really problems with your skills, you cant do anything to improve them. I have never see a bad player become better, whatever happened.

By the way it doesnt matter anyway. You will never get a fair play especially in ladders.
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 21:22:52


Buns157 
Level 68
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@MRSKILL I'm unsure if you're a troll or just kind of dim. But you're pretty new, I have seen many bad players become better, that includes myself (I like to think I am decent now).

And the ladders are not perfect to judge people, since people cheat from time to time. But I would still say they're pretty reliable to judge if someone is a better player than someone else who is rated much lower.

Edit: Clicked your profile, you've played much more than me. I'm assuming you're joking.

Edited 12/28/2015 21:26:38
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 21:28:30


Sheeple
Level 58
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What's a good way to pratice for the RT ladder?
How do you get better?: 12/28/2015 21:28:52

MRSKILL45
Level 51
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But im sure what kind you are.

And no, even the scientist say its impossible to get better.

There are many ways to manipulate ladders.
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