South park is more politically balanced than any late night TV show.

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PC vs Ads

you admit that Hillary Clinton is not a "reasonable person".

Since when was Hillary Clinton president at that time? Please re-read what I said.

@ wct

Your a jerkoff. Sorry, that's just how I feel. I just simply do not like you.

Good day.

Hey don't pick on Wct you ass....he's one of the only people I respect.

JangoFett - wow that's a big list.

I respect a lot of people. But I don't have respect for a person who doesnt think a 13 year old is capable of basic mental thought and planning.

AHEM BROTHER! #teenpower

( I'm actually 15 though )

14.

Benjamin is 13.

From a Canadian's perspective, I can say Obama is very popular over here.

The USA Dollar is very strong at the moment. The unemployment rate is at 5.5% while 200'000 jobs are being added monthly.

He began the process of normalizing relations between Cuba and the USA. He publicly offered his support on gay marriage and a gun control proposal. He blocked Keystone XL.

Also, Obamacare is just a natural step toward universal healthcare and is very welcomed.

Of course, there have been more drone strikes than before. We also can't forget the mass surveillance scandal. However, I think Obama still remains a very good president.

Unemployment rate numbers are never to be taken seriously. That goes for every nation's quota.

edit: Obamacare is illegal.

He's not a good president, either. He never was, so he can't "remain" good, anyway.

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But you're applying Canadian standards, values, and politics to judge him. So...yeah there's that difference of perspective.

we might have still been fooled by reports of iraq having wmds

I think you're ceding too much ground there. Just my opinion, tho. Perhaps you're 'just throwing them a bone'? :-) The reports themselves were only a tiny smidgen of the 'being fooled' dynamic. If the Bush administration was fooled -- if! -- then they wanted to be fooled, the same way groupthink works (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink). It's this latter case of groupthink that I'm arguing for, since it's much more easily demonstrable. Any other non-groupthinking administration wouldn't have encountered the same dynamics, e.g. Gore.

Ultimately, Bush is the one responsible for his administration, though I agree with you that nastier minds such as Cheney and Rumsfeld had tons of influence on this, and on Bush in general. I bet I'm more on the side of Bush being a true puppet than Jai is, so that's why I was so surprised he went there! XD

PS: For a relevant demonstration of the potentially catastrophic effects of groupthink, refer to the 1986 space shuttle Challenger disaster, which is a classic example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=refVQw5ZO9c

Feynman on the disaster: https://youtu.be/4kpDg7MjHps?t=2m30s

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@ wct

Your a jerkoff. Sorry, that's just how I feel. I just simply do not like you.

Good day.

@NAD: Congratulations.

Hey don't pick on Wct you ass....he's one of the only people I respect.

@JangoFett: No need. It's just the internet, after all. :-)

I respect a lot of people. But I don't have respect for a person who doesnt think a 13 year old is capable of basic mental thought and planning.

@NAD: Uh, what? When did I ever say any such thing?

The thread was starting off badly, I made a comment on the 2nd page which I hoped would start off some discussion but got entirely ignored, now this thread is just... retarded.

i dont get it
How can a Canadian think Obama is a good president.
He shit all over your country
Would rather buy oil from Saudi Arabia than our friends to the north.
Pathetic and a huge slap in the face to Canadians

Only Canada's conservative government wanted to reach a deal with Obama about Keystone XL. A majority of Canadians opposed this pipeline. We are very thankful to Obama for blocking it.

It's one of the many reasons why a new liberal government has been elected not long ago.

I can assure you won't hear about Keystone XL for a very long time.

Are there any other reason we're supposed to dislike Obama?

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Simply the best !

Majority of Americans don't like him ( in most polls )