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Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/17/2016 04:23:06


Diety Emperor Cacao, God Ruler of the Universe 
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Or is it when we sign up for Warlight we lose all our rights to everything we say?

So can I convince Fizzer to sue him?

He quoted me saying something stupid. I find this to be defaming and in fact is a ground to litigate.

Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/17/2016 04:25:09

{BM}-Person the Unknown
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Um, no you can't.
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/17/2016 04:31:23


Cata Cauda
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You can still deny, you have ever said it... But actually you are a well known troll, so that wont hurt your reputation that much.
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/17/2016 04:33:30

Good Kid 
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For something to be defamation, it must be false. To sue for defamation, you'd have to prove harm was done to you. Thus, obviously, no, you cannot sue. But I'm damn sure you weren't stupid enough to not already know the answer before asking.
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/17/2016 04:47:33


Castle Bravo
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yes you can sue, contact a lawyer and he'll get to bottom of this.
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/17/2016 06:03:23


Coronel Gavilan
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haha is it true? did you posted in a chat or in a forum? warlight is kinda a lawless place, eh....
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/17/2016 06:05:46

Konkwær III
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Come on Cacao, you should be proud of that quote.
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/17/2016 13:33:45

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If you actually said that, then in most countries, you wouldn't be able to successfully sue anyone for that.
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/17/2016 13:50:24


[Wolf] Relmcheatham
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If you did not say it (and could prove it), then if you had the best lawyer in the world, you could maybe get him on slander.
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/17/2016 13:57:38


Sephiroth
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that pun is actually kind of funny, i'm surprised it's from the same guy who came out with this retarded bullshit
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/17/2016 13:58:37


Le Count H 
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This is covered under freedom of speech if it doesn't give harm
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/17/2016 15:25:29

Baer 
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You can sue for anything you want. The better question is can you win...
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/17/2016 15:47:41


[REGL] Pooh 
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alas, there is a distinction between public people and private people with regards to the requirement that it be true.

Public people (politicians, famous actors, etc) can't get up set if someone says something true about them.

However, Private people (everyone else) have an expectation of privacy on some sensitive things, so even if you do say something that is true about them, you can still get in trouble (provided that they had a reason to believe the information would stay private and it causes damage.)

But defamation is largely a state-law claim (in the US) and the requirements vary by where you live.
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/18/2016 00:17:00


Madness 
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As the husband of a lawyer, I can promise you this would go absolutely nowhere. In fact, were you to bring a suit on this, you'd likely have the case dismissed summarily and be liable for his legal fees. There is no harm presented to your reputation based on the quote, and even if you could prove it caused you financial or emotional distress, you'd have to further prove that it was presented in a public setting and was intended as a harmful measure instead of simply being something he found humorous. Add all those things up, and you *might* be able to create a case. Expect to spend $200-$300 per hour for examinations and discovery, probably totaling up to around 50 hours, including time spent by your legal team requesting subpoenas of Warlight archives. Then you have case filing fees, court fees and more.

Long story short, if you won the Powerball jackpot last weekend, then have a go. If you are a trust fund baby, then have a go. If you have $10-15k burning a hole in your pocket, have a go. But you better believe he caused you at least that much financial distress. And be prepared to be countersued if (when) your case is dismissed and have close to as much to shell out to his legal team.

Otherwise, get over yourself. No one will care as soon as they click out of this forum thread.

Edited 1/18/2016 00:18:01
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/18/2016 00:21:25


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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No because everyone on here is anonymous.
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/18/2016 00:23:08


Madness 
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No because everyone on here is anonymous.

Not true. There are cases adjudicated every day where IP addresses are subject to subpoena and discovery. You have no anonymity on the internet. Everything is traceable.
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/18/2016 00:51:36

Ollie 
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Not true. There are cases adjudicated every day where IP addresses are subject to subpoena and discovery. You have no anonymity on the internet. Everything is traceable.


That something can be traced to a certain IP address is only prove that that computer was used to do it. Impossible to prove who was using that computer at that time unless a camera was recording it. So in theory nobody is anonymous, in reality everybody is
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/18/2016 02:15:51


Madness 
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Not true. There are dozens of cases that have been won with IP discovery.

*Nearly every single bitTorrent piracy case won by the plaintiffs has been based on IP addresses and reasonable suspicion.

More notably, and appropriate to this case, Hadley v Cook, Illinois was just won by the plaintiff based on IP usage.

Even if you're using dynamic IP addressing at home or school, your provider has tracking for all the data transfers, and the courts have become very smart about this kind of thing. If 50 posts come from your IP address, and even 1 is definitively traceable to you, the assumption becomes that they all are.

I'm not blowing smoke here, I'm simply telling it like it is. You're not anonymous.
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/18/2016 02:21:37

[wolf]japan77
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Meh, ever used a scramble IP address, and intentionally created a VM so you could have an dynamic and scrambled MAC address?

because if you do that, you can't be easily traced, also do all activities on the deep net.
Can I sue for something on Warlight?: 1/18/2016 02:28:15


Madness 
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Not arguing with that, but do you really think the average WL user runs their games on a virtual machine? Or bothers with sophisticated techniques to keep themselves "untraceable"?

Everything is traceable, in the end, unfortunately. Just depends on how much you want to pay someone to help you discover it.

But my point still stands, anonymity doesn't exist in a connected world. There are crumbs everywhere, beyond just your computers parking spot.
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