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Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 08:03:40

{Hercules
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Who do you think is the best player, current best and past best. Who is an upcoming player?
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 08:26:00


Bayern München is the best!
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Current: Krzychu
Past: Krzychu
Future: Krzychu
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 09:23:39


Okabe Rintarou ( AKA Hououin Kyouma)
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past :Hououin Kyouma
current : Hououin Kyouma
future : Hououin Kyouma

Edited 2/8/2016 09:24:44
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 09:35:49

Magic Mango
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Current: mod
Past: mod
Future: mod

But he is elitist so fuck him
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 11:59:34


Benjamin628 
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Current 1v1 MoD
Past 1v1 Piggy, The Impaler, Latnox
Future 1v1 Buns, Hades

Current Overall MotD, JSA
Past Overall Sze, Gui, Gnuff
Future Overall Buns, Jz, ZeroBlindDragon

Just my opinion...

Edited 2/8/2016 12:14:18
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 12:01:38


muddleszoom
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current:mod
past:mod
furture:mod
99999999999999999999999999999yearsinthefurture:muddleszoom
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 12:04:26


Benjamin628 
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No offense to everyone (or MoD) who doesn't study strategic gameplay (ladders & shit), but MoD honestly is only the best player right now in 3 templates (of course just my opinion):

- Strategic ME WR
- Guiroma 1v1 (debatable)
- French Brawl (not tested enough?)

Edited 2/8/2016 12:06:26
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 12:07:21


{Canidae} Kretoma
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who cares.
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 13:49:01


Min34 
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Past: Latnox, Piggy

Current: MoD, MotD, Timinator, Buns (lets be honest, he already is one of the best, he`s no longer an upcoming player), Gui. Also Sze, Gnuff, JSA and Summer but I don`t see a lot of activity from them lately, might just be me though.

Upcoming: Hades, JZ, QB, Peixoto, Oh, Nackickwind, Sultan, USA Biches

I know not all players in Upcoming are completely new, but they are players that have shown very good plays in the last couple of months
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 14:24:32


Master Turtle 
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@Benjamin those are the only seasonals that he has done exceptionally well on. Look at the past 24 WGL tournaments and he has won most of them and a lot of those games are on newish templates or uncommonly played templates.

Strategic 1v1 ME:
Current: master of deseaster
Past: Professor Dead Piggy
Future: master of deseaster

Overall 1v1 Play:
Past: Timinator
Current: Master of the Dead
Future: Buns157

Edit: I forgot Latnox, not sure which spot I would put him in though.

Edited 2/8/2016 14:26:04
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 14:45:24


Hades
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I think it definitely depends on the game type, and I would pretty much just repeat what's already been said. I think I'll emphasise ZeroBlindDragon as the best upcoming multiday player though. Watch out for that guy.
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 14:50:26

Good Kid 
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No chance is MoD going to be the best strat 1v1 player of the future. He hates the template since it has changed, and the template he actually does enjoy is no longer played much.

I think it's also airly obvious that sze is the best 1v1 player (1v1, not strat 1v1), his RT ladder rating of 2401 is wayyyyy ahead of anyone elses.

Edited 2/8/2016 14:51:28
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 14:55:11


Ragnarok
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Yves (Gui) has a higher rating than sze in RT ladder.
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 14:56:21

Good Kid 
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Gui has a higher peak rating, lower current.

Gui is at 2320, but peaked at 2403. Sze is at 2401.

Gui's Mean though is 2669 as opposed to sze's being 2586.

Gui played 35 games though, sze 95.

szeweningen defeated Yves 7226093 10/16/2014 10:02:30 szeweningen: 2401

Gui also lost the only head to head matchup.

Edited 2/8/2016 14:59:41
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 15:00:22


Bane 
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the MSF version of mod
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 15:43:08


Master Turtle 
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@Peixoto and Good Kid

I can confirm that Yves is not Gui.


Edit: Also the older players on the real time ladder have slightly inflated ratings due to the players that were on the ladder that they played against at the time. Now that there is a bigger spread and worse opponents even the best players and their ratings have dropped.



Also,
@Good Kid
I agree MoD will not be the future best of Stategoc 1v1, which is the current 1v1 ladder template. If you look at the heading of what I said, I said Strategic 1v1 ME. Referring to the promotion relegation league and the old 1v1 ladder. That template I believe will remain his for the next few years.

Edited 2/8/2016 15:46:25
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 16:00:08


Filthy Weeaboo Scum
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Me, obviously. I lose on purpose so I don't crush everyone's fragile egos with my brilliance, I'm a very considerate person after all.
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/8/2016 16:00:31


Bane 
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lol
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/9/2016 04:30:17


Coronel Gavilan
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Past Latnox
Present Sze,Kryzchu, Sultan, Buns, Timinator and of course MOD, the Messi of Warlight, right now...

Future: Nackickwind, Peixoto, Hades.

There are wonderful players that dont play 1v1 or ladders. It's debatable to say who is better... but I think that "complete" players are those who are successful in almost every scenario...
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/9/2016 04:35:00


Nex
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There are wonderful players that dont play 1v1 or ladders. It's debatable to say who is better...


Not really. That's like saying there's some wonderful investors who never use their money.
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/9/2016 05:37:10

JSA 
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Defining the best is a very hard thing to do. I've tried in the past, and frankly, I have found no objective way that accurately ranks the players, and subjective rankings honestly don't mean anything.

However, I believe we can mention some of the best, with the understanding that I likely left out some players who are on these guys' level. Also, it is hard for anyone not already a very strong player to accurately rank the best. You don't necessarily have to be better than someone to rank them accurately, but you need to be in the general vicinity of their skill level.

So my best past players include the players who I believe have made the biggest impact on warlight, in terms of strategy. This is not a comprehensive list, but is a shout out to some of the best in past eras:

The Impaller: The dominant player of the early ladder era, The Impaller has a picking style named after him, despite being gone from the ladder for years.

Dead piggy: In my opinion, Dead piggy understood Strategic 1v1 better than anyone else ever has. He really tried to help new players get better at the game also, and loved discussing strategy with other great players.

Szeweningen: Szeweningen seems to lower his mistake count below what any other player has ever done. What is often overlooked is Szeweningen's ability to adjust and create new styles.

Qi: Qi is a very dynamic player; his games were some of the most interesting on the ladder, and he has done a lot to bring the best players together, and to help new players improve.

Gnuffone: Gnuffone seems to be the first wildly successful counter picker. While I doubt he actually started counter picking, he definitely made it an effective strategy.

Zaeban: Combo picking was around before Zaeban, but he used it more efficiently than past players, really popularizing the idea of getting 11 or 12 income after 2 turns.


For the best current players, I will just list four that I know play at the top level on most templates. I don't necessarily believe they are the best four, but they play at a very high level, and 100% deserve a mention as being among the best currently:

Szeweningen, master of desaster, Master of the Dead, Timinator


For up and coming players, it is tricky to determine who qualifies as an up and coming player. I will only mention players who have not already made a solid claim as being among the "best"(rules out buns and QB, and possibly others):

Nackinwind, ZeroBlindDragon, Hades, USA Biches, Jz
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/9/2016 06:31:09


knyte 
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Best right now:

- Timinator
- master of desaster

Best upcoming:

- Buns157
- Tony Sodano
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/9/2016 06:48:52


Coronel Gavilan
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@Forbidden Knowledge...

Not really, because in Warlight you can win different things, such as points, recognition, fun... in the case of investors, they just want money whoever the portfolio.

Just look at points, or coin leaderboard, not always the same names. What I want to say is that "the best player" is one who is the "best" in almost every scenario. Not every #1 1v1 is a wonderful Roleplayer and so on...
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/9/2016 06:53:11


knyte 
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Not really, because in science you can win different things, such as papers, Nobels, experiments... in the case of investors, they just want money whoever the portfolio.

Just look at citations, or the publications in Nature, not always the same names. What I want to say is that "the best scientist" is one who is the "best" in almost every field. Not every top physicist is a wonderful creation scientist and so on...
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/9/2016 13:29:50


muddleszoom
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i agree with bane i meant the msf mod
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/9/2016 13:54:09


Ottoman Emperor
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Qi and dead pigy and strategos are same person.
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/9/2016 14:11:08


Timinator 
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Qi and dead pigy and strategos are same person.

This hasn't always been the case.


I can confirm that Yves is not Gui.

I'd like to see that, especially with Yves having a taiwanese flag :)
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/9/2016 14:55:26


Master Ryiro 
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regardless of how great they may be,sze and yves are overrated in rt ladder
they don't play consistently,their standard deviation is not low,and they haven't played in quite some time

Edited 2/9/2016 14:56:08
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/9/2016 15:13:01


master of desaster 
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everyone would drop under 2200 if he joins the rt ladder now. Ratings are lower than they used to be (matter of activity?) when the rt ladder was released

and thanks everyone. for me, dead piggy was the hero.
Newcomers: open turtle clan page, jz, sephiroth (not new accountwise, but active for like one year i think)

Edited 2/9/2016 15:15:28
Best war light player and best upcoming player: 2/9/2016 21:05:54

{Hercules
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Awesome thanks guys i hope to get as good one day
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