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Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 03:22:06


[RE]Recoil
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This is just an idea,

should people get points even thought they lost. This of course wouldn't nearly be half the amount of point you would get if you would win.

So what do people think,

leave your opinion :)
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 03:24:35


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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Frankly I'm against the idea, and this is coming from a person who loses quite a lot. You shouldn't reward losing. Period. This is equal to giving out trophies to losing sports team.
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 03:30:49


Bane 
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"Treats for losing in little-league?"
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 03:31:52


Zenvue
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When we lost in the little-league baseball team we always got an hour lecture on whatever we did wrong and the coach would yell at us.... When we won all we got was a "good job" and that was it

Edited 3/6/2016 03:32:11
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 07:11:58


Klarik
Level 29
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no, you should lose points if you lose a game. Or at the very least be ineligible for any trophies you earned during that match.
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 07:21:10


Welsh Knight
Level 59
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Theres no crying in baseball......
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 07:25:22


Fleecemaster 
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Everyone should just start at level 60 :)
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 07:35:06

AI
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Some guys would join every open game and instant surrender to get easy points ... naah
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 07:36:38


Lord of Turnips
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Zadazar, I like that idea about losing points for losing games. Although, you should still get trophies from that game as some require you to lose in a certain way. i.e. eliminate yourself by using a blockade or abandon card.
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 07:48:55


Bayern München is the best!
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Here's what I think:

1. Players get/lose points in games due how did they lose
1.1. Booted
1.1.1. Booted in FFA - When a player gets booted in a FFA,he loses poins due to the FFA - how bigger it is,this less the player will lose
1.1.2. Booted in team games* - When a player gets booted in a team game,he loses points due to
1.1.2.1. number of players in team - how less it is,this less the player will lose
1.1.2.2. number of teams - how bigger it is,this less will the player lose
1.2. Surrendered
1.2.1. Surrendered in FFA - When a player surrenders in a FFA,he loses points due to
1.2.1.1. what was his income (WHEN HE SURRENDERED) - bigger then how many players (how big is this number,this big he'll lose)
1.2.1.1 how big was the FFA (look 1.1.1)
1.2.2 Surrendered in team games* - When... in a team game,he wins points due to could his team win? - If it LOST,before he surr-ed,and he made the team surrender,he GETS points.
If something other happened,nothing from his points changes.
1.3. Eliminated - this means that there's a big chance player is wasting the time.
If he is,he returns to 0 points to his exact level. If he had a chance to defeat the other**,he gets points.

2. Fleecemaster should be suspended for 1 week,so he stops saying stupid things.

*Talking to games,where player's team lost
**Talking to commander games

Changed some things bcs of Жуктьру's answer. There can be mistakes in the #.#.#

Thanks for reading,

BMitB

Edited 3/6/2016 08:02:07
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 07:51:39


Жұқтыру
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Players shouldn't lose points for anything other than booting. I agree with Fleece, though, just give everyone the features from the start. It's not like lotteries don't exist, but they're just an uneeded timewaste.
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 08:03:52


Bayern München is the best!
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Players shouldn't lose points for anything other than booting.

I don't agree. Not fully. For the surrendering I wrote before,I do now. After thinking,nobody can say if the team could win or not.

But for the time waste,I think... He should be suspended with something. That's my idea.

No offense,
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 08:59:04


Thomas 633
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Should points be given out for losing?

This depends on how you look at a game. 1v1's are most easily looked at like a standard match of whatever, where one team loses and one wins. If you look at a 40 player FFA, its more like a F1 race, where people come in different places, and progressively lesser awards are given to lower positions.
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 09:18:26


Bayern München is the best!
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I think yes. Just my opinion
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 10:01:09

Hasdrubal
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Although I am new in this game (regarding my record here) I agree with first poster that not only winner should be awarded with points. In ladder games there are points for losing side, but there is only important average (or something like that).

There is side back when more people get points as, for instance in FFA, two players can fight others while doing all cooperative, so at the end they both remain alive, and fight each other for first place. If that fact is not known to other players they will be in disadvantage over cooperative couple (or teams).

But, in large FFA games, one can lead all the time, and then, suddenly, come between 2nd and 3rd by the strength, and lose everything.

So, it is not easy to say what the one will deserve for his contribution in game. We now have absurd situation that booted player, if his team wins, also gain points although his contribution may be none or neglibible. Surrendered players, too. So, picking points for not doing anything will be easy, just enter in few hundred games (ruin them, of course) and get spoils.

But, how to award players who contribute most to the game and still lose? There may be 2 different ways to achieve points - by calculating army/income per turn comparing to winner, so second place can be awarded with 10% points (not the only possible solution), or by voting by other players (after the game ended) who, by player's opinion/choice was best player save winner, and such player(s) will be awarded with 10% points (I said players as in large FFA there may be few players who should take points).
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 11:38:16


Bane 
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one can lead all the time, and then, suddenly, come between 2nd and 3rd by the strength, and lose everything.



You still lost though.
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 16:19:17


tomjh
Level 55
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Would it be better if a player earned 10 Xp for losing via surrender or elimination, but gained nothing for boot. Then the gain is none or negligible.
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 16:30:47

Magic Mango
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if it's going to be neglible might as well be nothing
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 16:32:37


Fleecemaster 
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No, cos then people would have even more reason to drag games out.

I hate the leveling system and xp system, it creates complete ass-hats in games. That's why I tend to make more and more of my games practise, the chilled environment is what Warlight should be about imo...

Maybe leveling should just be easier or something? I mean, thoretically as players on the whole level up, then leveling becomes easier as you can beat higher level opponents (getting up to about level 40 on Kongregate is a real mission, when I transfered to here I jumped to level 50 or so just because there were so many level 50+ around to beat)
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 17:37:24


Platinum
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should people get points even thought they lost. This of course wouldn't nearly be half the amount of point you would get if you would win.
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To open to abuse, We will start seeing alot more games finish if this was passed ^ ;)
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 18:03:23


OxTheAutist 
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Yes, brilliant idea.

We should also reward getting booted, going PE in diplos, stalling ladders, and hijacking clans!
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 18:09:23


Buns157 
Level 66
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Makes sense in large FFA's when you come 2nd out of 40 players. But not worth the effort to implement in my opinion.
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 18:27:56


muddleszoom
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@Ox i so agree that is best idea ever you should user voice it

but i would add rigging games to that

Edited 3/6/2016 18:28:40
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 22:13:00


Semicedevine
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Maybe leveling should just be easier or something? I mean, thoretically as players on the whole level up, then leveling becomes easier as you can beat higher level opponents (getting up to about level 40 on Kongregate is a real mission, when I transfered to here I jumped to level 50 or so just because there were so many level 50+ around to beat)

you're joking, right?

We need leveling up to be difficult, otherwise people would reach lv 60 much faster and, since you've already achieved everything once your at 60, there would no longer be nearly as much motivation for you to play as there was before
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 22:31:03


Onoma94
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I still demand points for 200 games that I won years before the whole level system.
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 22:42:17


[RE]Recoil
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okay okay people, i get it
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 22:44:59

[wolf]japan77
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I generally feel that in an FFA, maybe second or even third could potentially win points.
However, I'm okay with the current system.
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 23:10:09


Semicedevine
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perhaps in a FFA, the upper half of all players should get points and the lower half shouldn't?

40 player FFA - reward points to top 20 players

the additional points rewarded to the players would be slightly taken away from the very top player?
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 23:10:13


Timinator 
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+1 buns.
Points for losing?: 3/6/2016 23:17:52


tomjh
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In a 20+ player Ffa:
1st 100
2nd 33
3rd 11

In a 10+ player FFA:
1st 100
2nd 25
3rd 8
In a 5+ player Ffa:
1st 100
2nd 20
(percent)
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