Boy make your own thread.

I'm surprised nobody brought this up yet...

But what the heck are we going to do with 1.5 MILLION unemployed ex-soldiers?

Firing squad, they're thoughtcriminals!









Gotcha

There's lots of manual labor type jobs due to the college bubble, many of the veterans could go to schools and get trained to be in those fields (we brainwashed them, only right to give them a life). And it wouldn't happen overnight, it'd take time to implement such a change. Give the military a target of scaling down and some time to do so (a decade maybe), so it's not as much of a shock.

But what the heck are we going to do with 1.5 MILLION unemployed ex-soldiers?

Let those scum die. We're not going to respect psycopathic killers. Frankly it's disgusting how much soldiers are respected everywhere, and I'd like more not to pay folk for killing folk. Now, I'd be kinder if this was an antigeneven draft, but there isn't in America, so yeah, let them rot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_A27rIOoco

1. Cut the budget by 90%

Cut it by more, there is a mad amount being spent.

2. Dismantle half of the nuclear arsenal, keep it run by the old software/hardware, but keep it in good condition.

There's not much public infos on that, but what we do know, is that the nuclear weapon system in America is dangerously outdated. Get it up to date.

3. There is about 2 million in the Armed Forces. Cut that by 1.5 million.

Rid the military altogether, just a shore guard+rescue team.

7. Give non-discriminatory militias artillery ,armored personnel carriers, helicopters and reconnaissance planes.

No. You know, I did some thinking. Government is just an alliance of businesses. In total anarchy, government would reform as corporations ally each other, and eliminate the rest, violently. But anyhow, if government does these bad things, why wouldn't folk?

8. Militias can only buy equipment if 70% of their members have a weapon that can fire standard NATO rounds

Not necessarily for or against, but why?

13. In the case of invasion, the military can make drafts of physically capable males and females from the age of 18 to 45.

Heck no, false flag exploitability there.

Altered Budget:

Pensions 83% - Offer to people who were employed for 30 or more years.
Health Care 40% - Privitize, little/no subsidies.
Education 15% - States should control this, destroy department of education. The remaining budget should be for paying existing workers/designing non-required tests.
Defence 60% - Reduce nuclear arsenal to 250 Warheads (can destroy the whole world anyways), promote militias, reduce police force/national army.
Welfare 33% - Give 10,000$ a year to the very poor - bottom 5%
Protection 104% - this is a fine number, reduce a bit
Transportation 101% Billion - Reduce/Eliminate uses for cars with major buses/trains/plane innovation
General Government 41% - Pay the workers much much less.
Other Spending 47% - Most of this is pointless spending or imports, we can be more self-sufficient.
War on Drugs Revamp 100 Billion - Eliminate DEA, use Switzerland method.

Rid pensions altogether, though should be phased out, not anything sudden. 0%.
Have free care for life-threatening settings, otherwise government should not be involved. Also, government should heavily regulate selling and making of antibiot, as these help make new superbugs. So, what is that, 80% or something? I've no idea what that'd cost. ??%
Teaching, nowadays, everyone has freedom to learn through self-learning. Internet. If you don't have internet, go to a bookloaner. But anyhow, make schools by choice for children (I'd be most popular president ever), as a child who doesn't want to learn, won't and will waste money. Anyhow, build an organised system based on merit and will, for middle-qualified learning (electrician, nurse), and for higher-level learning (physician, pharmacist). I'd assume this'd cost less, but again, ??%
Defence, yeah, America's good on spending there for 40 years. Sell some tanks if low, oh wait...0%.
Welfare, totally rid. Promotes not getting a job. Noone will die on the streets, healthcare will take care of that. 0%.
Not sure what protection is, but if it's anything like army, rid it, too. ??%
Transportation, eh, not qualified to answer for America, though it doesn't seem to me awful. Keep as is, 100%.
Pay the politicians far less? I agree. 10% should do.
Other spending, it doesn't seem like you nor me have researched. Keep as is. 100%.

So, with all that taken into account, and all ??% set to 150 (pretty liberal), that amounts to total:

5 thousand billion (28% tax rate).

Let those scum die. We're not going to respect psycopathic killers. Frankly it's disgusting how much soldiers are respected everywhere, and I'd like more not to pay folk for killing folk. Now, I'd be kinder if this was an antigeneven draft, but there isn't in America, so yeah, let them rot.

What the everliving hell? So someone who is told from day one of their lives that America is great, that America defends and is the protecter of liberty, that goes through a government controlled school system, and is broken and brainwashed by the military, deserves to die of starvation? Most military personnel are janitors and things like that, that might be cooperation with the government and enabling it, but so is paying taxes. Letting then die on the streets would be the ultimate sin, they were pretty much fed one perspective their entire lives and conditioned into being subservient to the government, and after we have no use of their services, you propose their deaths? What the fuck

There's not much public infos on that, but what we do know, is that the nuclear weapon system in America is dangerously outdated. Get it up to date.

Getting it up to date makes it extremely vulnerable to hackers and glitches, very dangerous.

But anyhow, if government does these bad things, why wouldn't folk?

A militia does not have the ability to sustain a military campaign overseas.

Not necessarily for or against, but why?

In a actual invasion, we would need to make sure we're supplying people ammunition they can use. The NATO round is used a lot, we have a lot of it, and it would be pretty easy to get militia to use it.

Heck no, false flag exploitability there.

I seriously doubt the government could stage a actual invasion of the US by either Mexico or Canada without cooperation from those two, and a sizable military.

Lol smed is your name in the thread title an allusion to animal farm?

Maybe :3

What about the oppression against the natives major? You talk about the Black Panthers but nothing about the most oppressed group of people? Let them achieve independence they would be definitely better out of this sh*t, redneck militias and then a new Indian war will start all over again.

The Native American states would be dependent on the US, and living conditions on the reservations would remain the same. Besides, I'm not a anti-nationalist, I don't want to oppress minorities but I won't give them a country.

New tax system:

Under $20,000 a year/person over 18 - 2% tax rate
$20,000-$50,000 a year/person over 18 - 5% tax rate
$50,000-$100,000 a year/person over 18 - 10% tax rate
Over $100,000 a year/person over 18 - 15% tax rate

No. A superprogressive tax rate is the stupidest thing ever. You don't think big businessmen go bankrupt? They go bankrupt the most, from these superprogressive tax rates pushed by stupidheads. And that hurts the lower workers, then, for not getting jobs. Heck no. Now, I'm not for flat rates, another superstupid thing, so let's compromise with progressive tax: a constant % rate. Under my liberal estimates, everyone would have to pay 28% tax on average. However, that's not counting government-run businesses, and taxes for alcohol and other drugs, so to speak, "vices", which would be heavy.

Unemployment would plummet to about 2%, with about 196,000,000 Americans working to make an average of about 100,000$ a year.

Ha ha ha. First, there is no unworking problem in America, second, there's no way to make money out of nowhere, except for inflation, and inflation has it's own problems.

Completely get rid of corporate subsidies for large businesses (If you are in S&P 500, you don't deserve money from the government).

Rid money gifts almost in full from the government, especially welfare??? Hello, they're stupid folk who aren't going to give anything back, just money down the drain there, far more so than giving money to big businesses. Only thing government should give money gifts to is for energy companies in clean alternative energy: wind, Sun, water-electricity (in some settings).

Maybe instead of giving welfare, you should allow people to work jobs that nobody wants to do in exchange for a subsidy of like 10k a year bonus.

Oh wait, that's already in existence, called getting a job, you lazy bums.

Illegal immigrants with high skills must get a high skilled job or leave, low skilled illegals must get a low skilled job or leave. That would reduce the amount of
people to deport by about 25%, increase jobs by about 3-4 Million.

Heck no. Open borders for everybody. This centrist selfish thinking of only your folk, your countryfolk, this is evil. Don't think about your country winning. Think about folk winning. Everybody wins in open borders.

Leave TPP, it hurts US Freedom and takes our jobs elsewhere.

Absolutely not. It's competition, and it shows how fat the average slob is in America, if they can't compete internationally. It's a free-market, it promotes competition, the only grounds America shouldn't join is if they still have minimum wage and "worker's rights". Throw those anticapitalist effigies out of the window, they are fattening the American folk.

20% Tax on all American-Based companies moving outside of the border - definitely no subsidies to them, unless they move back in.

Gifts to maybe countries moving into America, but I wouldn't punish moving out. You know how they punish moving out in Eritrea? By shooting you in the back, as policy.

DEA eliminated, plan to decarcinate 750,000 criminals and send them through rehab, tear down jails, build up Rehab clinics with free drugs, pay attention to getting
better instead of isolation. For non-violent drug related crimes, force to a clinic instead of a jail.

I agree, but not for tearing down gaols. Legalise all drugs.

What the everliving hell? So someone who is told from day one of their lives that America is great, that America defends and is the protecter of liberty, that goes through a government controlled school system, and is broken and brainwashed by the military, deserves to die of starvation?

Adolf Hitler is widely believed to have been mentally ill, growing up in abusive settings, getting a poor diet as a starving artist in Wien. But I'm not going to pardon him just for being brainwashed, nor any killers. Y'know, about 40% serial killers were physically abused by their families as children, and 80% psychologically abused by their families. I don't pardon serial killers, just as I don't pardon legal paid ones.

Letting then die on the streets would be the ultimate sin, they were pretty much fed one perspective their entire lives and conditioned into being subservient to the government, and after we have no use of their services, you propose their deaths? What the fuck

Mm, how most serial killers are, too, except they realise that they're terrible folk since they're not told that serial killers are the bravest folk and should be honoured, and kill themselves for their terrible misdeeds. Anyhow, I don't propose killing them, I just propose not helping those rats' arses.

Getting it up to date makes it extremely vulnerable to hackers and glitches, very dangerous.

No, it means getting properly trained folk, encryption systems, and supervisions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y1ya-yF35g

A militia does not have the ability to sustain a military campaign overseas.

They do if they have missiles or ships, but moreover, they have the knack to war themselves. Innocent Americans.

I seriously doubt the government could stage a actual invasion of the US by either Mexico or Canada without cooperation from those two, and a sizable military.

Media manipulation along with a few false flag attacks. And even so, I am against military drafts under all settings. I am for stopping civilian deaths under all settings.

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And your comparison with Sweden is showing your total ignorance in socioeconomics: show blatant facts, trustworthy reviews and works as well as unquestionable figures before inventing your own version of things and saying bullshit as usual Major, and "America owns Europe" One more reason to count you with the other blind over-nationalist folks of this forum.

The Nordic countries mostly got most their success since before socialism, as being capitalist strongholds in Europe up to the 1970s, and now it's in great-deed riding off that.

One more ground to count you as a deaf Far-west Eurocentrist communist folks of the forum.

Most of the Sweden stuff was a joke. Especially the America owning Europe part. Anyways, Sweden is pretty weak in most terms and can't engage in any wars against others because of timidness and weakness. But ethnic cleansing, woo boy that's another story.

Also, the only way to be a non-nationalist in your eyes is to be a America hating socialist that loves the government.

As for the Natives, they deserve their own independent states, there was no real agreement and they were forced to join and assimilate by arms and violence. They at least deserve a self determination referendum.

They do if they have missiles or ships, but moreover, they have the knack to war themselves. Innocent Americans.

So a local militia will get cargo ships, fill them up with soldiers, get the planes and ships across the Atlantic with no foreigners stoping them, land somewhere and start fighting people, then get people back home to start sending ships over with ammunition and food, all the while fighting no one for no reason?

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They at least deserve a self determination referendum.

Why? They did not live when the Native tribes were beaten and had their land's taken, they were not injured in those wars. If it's a matter of ethnicity, does that mean I get to vote in hypothetical Basque referendums, or that people can simply have their own countries because of their ethnicity? That's dumb, we're all talking hairless apes that are made of the same stuff, get used to it. Existing does not mean you get to be your own country.

Nordic countries have nowadays the highest human development index of the whole world, and this is not because of pure capitalist policies but because they also implemented social policies would you deny this now Juq and Major? Then prove it, I am waiting for actual facts and not random subjective points as you used to do.

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