If anything, you flip-flopped, when you meant such a specific thing by such a broad phrase (GOP establishment). I am now talking about your meaning.

Everyone who follows American politics understands that 'GOP establishment' does not mean 'GOP voters'. It's not my fault if you don't follow politics or understand English.

Fox News's editorial policy is set from the top down

So 1 major news organization has GOP bias, 4 have Dem bias. Notice a general trend?

Also: "A 2014 Gallup poll found that a plurality of Americans believe the media is biased to favor liberal politics. According to the poll, 44% of Americans feel that news media are "too liberal" (70% of self-identified conservatives, 35% of self-identified moderates, and 15% of self-identified liberals), while 19% believe them to be "too conservative""

"A 1998 study from FAIR found that journalists are "mostly centrist in their political orientation; 30% considered themselves to the left on social issues compared to 9% on the right, while 11% considered themselves to the left on economic issues compared to 19% on the right."

Notice the misleading wording. FAIR says that journalists 'are', but what was actually studied was how the journalists viewed themselves.

It's safe to say that if you're whining about the "liberal media bias", you're less likely going to be a liberalist.

That has nothing to do with what I said. I said that in your opinion, both parties whining means that the truth is somewhere in the middle.

Right, and conservatism is keeping (conserving) things the way they are, but that's not what they really are in their modern meanings. Conservism means capitalism with a strong government,

If you define conservatism like that, then it has no meaning outside a certain time period and a certain country. It's a useless definition.

Dictatorship of the folk, otherwise known as, democracy.

You can certainly argue that in real-world communism, proletariat = folk. But in Marx' mind, Communism meant that everyone will prosper instead of everyone becoming poor. So no, Marx' dictatorship of the proletariat does not mean democracy.

Government businesses are the anti-capitalism.

No, they're ultracapitalist, as long as they make profit, since it's more buying things by choice, than forcing you to pay up in taxes. Anarchic 0% tax capitalism is impossible, but 0% tax is possible with small government and effective government-run businesses.

You can't redistribute wealth on a huge scale without a huge government.

Marxism is hoping that actually folk just out of the good of their hearts, do. But realistically, yes, it needs government, as much as capitalism, but it doesn't need a "huge government" - just a government that is big enough to reorganise funds, and the minimum size for that is smaller than most governments today.

Everyone who follows American politics understands that 'GOP establishment' does not mean 'GOP voters'. It's not my fault if you don't follow politics or understand English.

Either way, I didn't flip-flop.

So 1 major news organization has GOP bias, 4 have Dem bias. Notice a general trend?

Also: "A 2014 Gallup poll found that a plurality of Americans believe the media is biased to favor liberal politics. According to the poll, 44% of Americans feel that news media are "too liberal" (70% of self-identified conservatives, 35% of self-identified moderates, and 15% of self-identified liberals), while 19% believe them to be "too conservative""

Self-identification is better than identification from a conserve, who thinks that everyone left of him is liberal.

That has nothing to do with what I said. I said that in your opinion, both parties whining means that the truth is somewhere in the middle.

You said nothing of the kind. So the more you complain, the more right you are?

If you define conservatism like that, then it has no meaning outside a certain time period and a certain country. It's a useless definition.

Republican group is obviously conservative. Very many politic groups all over the world are conservative. In truth, it's a worldwide battle between mainly liberalists against conserves, of some kinds. (though Democratic group is probably low socialist, not liberalist, but not far from liberalism).

But in Marx' mind, Communism meant that everyone will prosper instead of everyone becoming poor. So no, Marx' dictatorship of the proletariat does not mean democracy.

If everyone had a voice in government, then it's a democracy. For better or worse.

Self-identification is better than identification from a conserve, who thinks that everyone left of him is liberal.

Yeah but that was identification from everyone, not just conservatives.

Conservativism and liberalism are more of moral stances then how big government should be.

No. Conservatism is following the Constitution and the Founder's ideals, which include capitalism and small government. Liberalism is just socialism junior.

Yeah but that was identification from everyone, not just conservatives.

Where does it even say that?

No. Conservatism is following the Constitution and the Founder's ideals, which include capitalism and small government.

No, why do you think conservatism is in other countries than America, and arguably older than the USA itself? Y'know, the USA according to its founding principles was corrupted very early on.

"Taxation without representation"

This was a slogan of the American revolutionary war. Yet a few years later, Shay's rebellion was over draconian taxes and an overstepping and corrupt government and was violently put down in 1787. Whiseky Rebelion, a few years later. Started over very like grounds, was violently put down in 1794. I like the USA as a concept, but it quickly has become very corrupted.

According to the poll, 44% of Americans feel that news media are "too liberal"

Keyword: Americans.

At any rate, it's not nearly a significant problem as you implify it is, since, assuming conservatism and liberalism cancel each other out (since, obviously, something can not be both too conservative and too liberal), that's 25% excess, which amounts to 30.1% who care at all and 70% who doesn't think it's too conservative or liberal either way (with a population that is 70% conservative).

Isn't hillary supposed to be incarcerated? Bernie sanders is just socialist filth.

Seriously how is anyone voting Democrat this election.

Trump is arrogant but he knows what he is doing. Every move is coldly calculated.

Cruz is my fav, but he's not gonna win.

Kasich? Who?

Sanders wants to actually not kill so much, he's by far the best, with Clinton a close second. How can folk vote for Republicans? Sure, they've got a somewhat better economic policy, that's it. That's all they have going for them, otherwise there're arses who want to kill and spy on folk, whether it be through unrestricted government surveillence, guns, CO2, or torturing innocent folk in land illegally withheld from Cuba.

Seriously, the Republicans have it bad this election, at this point anyway. Rand Paul was a cool bloke, who was actually pretty smart and peaceful. Ben Carson has one of the best voices I've ever heard. That's all the compliments I can really give to the Republicans this election.

And I used to be kind of for-Trump (as far as the Republicans go), since saying "Mexico is sending killers and rapists" would be statistically relatively true, but then I read in. He's wanting Mexico to pay for some hell-arse expensive wall, he wants to fully stop Muslim immigration to America "I think Islam hates us.", he evaded the frain when asked to condemn KKK...

He's got the best charisma, no doubt, but he's a stupidhead. Charisma shouldn't matter, anyway.

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