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The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 12:50:00


Ox
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@Salty, Frankie Boyle and Kevin Bridges are definitely the best imo.
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 13:04:56


Angry Koala
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Why do you always have a stick up your ass? Who hurt you, Angry?


Hypocrisy is one of your worst flaws right?

I didn't know that making an obvious joke about stereotypes was more pathetic than making joking about rape. Perhaps French humor is worse than Ox's? But since it's you specifically, I'm not about to actually judge an entire country on your words.


Both are equally bad, that's why there was no need to make yourself such a pathetic comment. And no, I did not make any humourous comment here, I was very serious here, perhaps it's you who have a weird sense of humour, since you are not able to distinguish what is real "humour" and what is not.
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 13:08:00


Ox
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^ Also, with all of Tyrion's past insanity like "INCEST AND POLYGAMY LOL" my one comment seems a bit overshadowed by his spam.
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 14:40:46


Darth Darth Binks
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Hypocrisy is one of your worst flaws right?

It is everyone's biggest flaw.

Both are equally bad

No, no they aren't.

And no, I did not make any humourous comment here, I was very serious here, perhaps it's you who have a weird sense of humour, since you are not able to distinguish what is real "humour" and what is not.

I know that you think you were being serious.
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 15:25:14


GeneralPE
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Looking at that anti-Corp thread, I was dying when I saw a guy from the USSR clan - the same USSR which killed 50-ish million - say the Japanese imperial flag is messed up. lol

Edited 4/4/2016 16:04:43
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 16:20:17


Major General Smedley Butler
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Now Frenchie, all you've had before that was American is the plastic crap cheese. Come down to Texas and we'll load you full of enough barbecue that you'll have to roll around for the next few weeks.
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 16:33:36


Okabe Rintarou ( AKA Hououin Kyouma)
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Come to Romania ! With your pockets full if possible ehehehe

Edited 4/4/2016 16:33:42
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 21:17:28


Жұқтыру
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Looking at that anti-Corp thread, I was dying when I saw a guy from the USSR clan - the same USSR which killed 50-ish million - say the Japanese imperial flag is messed up. lol


Meantime, you still are an American patriot, who said that America needs to start killing more innocent folk, friends and family of folk at war with America. America, which has directly and indirectly killed at minimum 20,000,000 since the Second World War, a long past of warmongering, a dictatorship of filthy hypocritic psycopaths, and a glorification of the murderer scum who do the dirty work for all this that you call "servicemen".

Edited 4/4/2016 21:18:34
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 21:29:47


Eklipse
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America, which has directly and indirectly killed at minimum 20,000,000 since the Second World War

Citation needed.

a dictatorship of filthy hypocritic psycopaths

A dictatorship has one ruler, you're implying the rule of many. The U.S is an Oligarchy at worst, but that's stretching it since the same corruption seeps into many modern democracies.

a glorification of the murderer scum who do the dirty work for all this that you call "servicemen".

People love blaming soldiers for the wars that politicians order them to fight. Stop pointing blame at the wrong sources.

Besides, most of those "murderer scum" are perfectly normal people, with loving families, who took the job to help get by financially.A good chunk have probably never killed anyone either.

Hatred of war is rational, but you seem to have an irrational hatred for anyone associated with the military.

Edited 4/4/2016 21:30:24
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 21:34:08


Tchaikovsky Reborn
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You guys have started flames, but completely derailed the topic.

So... success?
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 21:36:39


Riveath
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Get used to it, topics exist to get derailed :p

Still doesn't make the USSR better, does it, Juq? I wanna hear it from you.
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 21:47:16


Жұқтыру
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Citation needed.


Really? It's not, this is the bare minimum that everyone agrees on (20 mil). But here is one anyway. http://www.sott.net/article/273517-Study-US-regime-has-killed-20-30-million-people-since-World-War-Two

A dictatorship has one ruler, you're implying the rule of many. The U.S is an Oligarchy at worst, but that's stretching it since the same corruption seeps into many modern democracies.


Maybe the better word I was looking for was "autocracy", but dictatorship can mean the same thing. It's not at all stretching it, in America, third parties are even stopped from getting onto ballots! News is very closely tied to government, I mean, c'mon. Also relativitiy doesn't help here - "modern democracies" aren't democracies, in truth, some of the more democratic countries today America hates, like Russia or Ecuador.

People love blaming soldiers for the wars that politicians order them to fight. Stop pointing blame at the wrong sources.


I have said before, it's a totally different setting if it's an antigeneven draft, but it's not. You have the politicians to aim for legalising murder, then you have the murderers to blame, too (unless they're being forced to, then it's a different setting).

Besides, most of those "murderer scum" are perfectly normal people, with loving families, who took the job to help get by financially.A good chunk have probably never killed anyone either.


A serial killer or mercenary or assassin will oft have loving families and seem normal, too, and mercenaries and assassins to it to "get by" financially. Now, I'm not railing against soldiers who haven't killed anybody, like clerks or meds, but that's not the majority.

Hatred of war is rational, but you seem to have an irrational hatred for anyone associated with the military.


War is not like an earthquake or a thunderstorm. It happens deliberately, from misdeeds that folk conciously do. I hate folk who do this, it's fully rational.

Still doesn't make the USSR better, does it, Juq? I wanna hear it from you.


Absolutely not, though the 50 million estimate is probably high. Soviet Union was disgusting, war crimes in the Second World War, and now the Russian Federation just likes to brag every 10 years or so about how it saved Europe.

The problem is though, everyone here knows that Russia is terrible, but they don't know America. Just as Stalin is depressingly rated as one of the best Russian leaders in the 20th century, new Piłsudski statues are being sculpted by the Polish cultural commission, while in America, the Republican Group is. Enough said.

Edited 4/4/2016 21:51:42
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 21:55:17


Eklipse
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in truth, some of the more democratic countries today America hates, like Russia or Ecuador.

Russia, more democratic? Are you joking? Putin fits the definition of Autocrat far more than Obama does.

I hate folk who do this, it's fully rational.

Is it really? You're classifying an immense group of people under one umbrella, without personally knowing any of them. I have friends and relatives who are/have been in the military, and none of them fit this "Evil psychopathic serial killer" straw-man that you've erected.
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 21:57:13


Major General Smedley Butler
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like clerks or meds, but that's not the majority.

The majority of folk do not kill in the military. You need tens of thousands of folks who aren't doing combat jobs to support the folk who do the fighting, and at that most fighting folk do not actually kill. The purpose of infantry is not to kill enemy soldiers, it's to capture a place because that place will be helpful later on in the operation or it is the main objective.
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 22:06:18


Жұқтыру
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Russia, more democratic? Are you joking? Putin fits the definition of Autocrat far more than Obama does.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/how-to-understand-putins-jaw-droppingly-high-approval-ratings/2016/03/05/17f5d8f2-d5ba-11e5-a65b-587e721fb231_story.html

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/dec/20/donald-trump/donald-trump-right-about-putins-popularity-russia/

http://www.levada.ru/eng/indexes-0

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx

80+% approof, against ~50% approff. No electoral college in Russia. 63.6% vote. Obama: 81% electoral vote, 51% popular vote. Politic parties have to jump through far less hoops to get on the ballot.

Meantime, America is running propoganda campaigns against Correa, one of the most democratic presidents I have seen, I mean, he has a forum every week where he talks and answers frain from folk, both who is there and online (through Twitter), and when he gets angry, he doesn't censor folk. The most he does is sue them if what they're saying is just false, and if not, then just insult them and physically rip their newspapers up.

Is it really? You're classifying an immense group of people under one umbrella, without personally knowing any of them. I have friends and relatives who are/have been in the military, and none of them fit this "Evil psychopathic serial killer" straw-man that you've erected.


Have they killed and do they not regret it? If yes to both, then they definitely fit "evil psychopathic serial killer".

The majority of folk do not kill in the military. You need tens of thousands of folks who aren't doing combat jobs to support the folk who do the fighting, and at that most fighting folk do not actually kill. The purpose of infantry is not to kill enemy soldiers, it's to capture a place because that place will be helpful later on in the operation or it is the main objective.


I doubt that, but either way, I hate the ones who do kill, not really the ones who don't.

Edited 4/4/2016 22:07:12
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 22:11:02


GeneralPE
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Meantime, you still are an American patriot, who said that America needs to start killing more innocent folk, friends and family of folk at war with America. America, which has directly and indirectly killed at minimum 20,000,000 since the Second World War, a long past of warmongering, a dictatorship of filthy hypocritic psycopaths, and a glorification of the murderer scum who do the dirty work for all this that you call "servicemen".

That 20 million number seems fishy. Does it include lives saved by stopping Nazis and Japan? Or is it just lost and no saved? Regardless, it is well less than Stalin alone
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 22:16:21


Eklipse
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Have they killed and do they not regret it? If yes to both, then they definitely fit "evil psychopathic serial killer".

There's far more to it than just those criteria. If I kill someone in defense of my family, and don't regret the action, am I immediately classified as a psychopathic murderer?

Shooting helpless civilians makes you a murderer, shooting enemy combatants who are about to shoot you is a sad fact of war.

Edited 4/4/2016 22:16:44
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 22:18:40


Ox
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USSR > USA

USA never stopped existing.
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 22:20:25


Жұқтыру
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That 20 million number seems fishy.


Yeah, smells low to me, I agree. 50 million is probably more right there.

Does it include lives saved by stopping Nazis and Japan?


As if that would change the numbers significantly. One life saved doesn't cancel out killing a life, otherwise Nazis and Japanese kill counts would also be lowered.

Regardless, it is well less than Stalin alone


I'm not shielding Stalin, but "oh we're good since we're not a paranoid communist dictator, just militarist capitalist dicator."
The Nanjing Massacre: 4/4/2016 22:23:41


Ox
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You know the funniest thing? Most Americans actually believe Reagan stopped the Cold War and not Gorbachev xD it's hilarious to me. Dumb patriots.
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