The winner of the single elimination should be called 'Last Man Standing' as he is not a champion yet, but is the only player at that point to have not lost a game.

Edit: I will enter the next championship if the template is small earth 1v1 with bomb card and commander.

Edited 4/18/2016 12:32:41

@Fleece
eh, sorry for my weak English... try again :)

The present (double elimination) format is bad not because it is expensive but the limitations of it.

For example the mandatory true skill settings you wrote.
But more important imo that this double elimination format not enough to decide who is the (valid) Warlight World Champion. Would be better for example a best of 7 (or more) format playing on different templates (from a srategical templates pool). But this is only an example, professional players can propose more better formats I think.

And can be more sponsor, not only you (e.g. I am open to spend my coins as a sponsor too), so that 30$ can be more, but not this is the most important thing I think, this is only a plus motivation for players to play on this series. What is the important, find a good format to decide in a correct way who is the best players. I mean the best possible (I know there is no a perfect format).

I see what you mean, but the main goal of this tournament was to utilise the open tournament (which in my opinion is under-used)

To be able to win a single or double elimination of this size really is a feat, and even more so than I would suggest a RR is, seeing as you have to win all your games (bar 1 in double elim)

This is in the same format as the Snooker World Championship or a Tennis Grand Slam and is well proven.

"Pure Skill" is the only real limitation, but seeing as most players seem to want to take luck out completely, I think this isn't really much of a limitation.

Also doing it this way is very simple to set up, and if in the host stopped playing, the tournament would still go ahead and prizes given :)

but seeing as most players seem to want to take luck out completely

*citation needed

Edited 4/18/2016 19:11:10

we r in 2016 not 2015

Edited 4/18/2016 19:11:28

^ Very observent...

And Semi, it's as big as I can make it, it won't get any bigger than that, no matter now much I try. Sorry :(

For Beren: cites the ladders.

There were 2 petitions. 1 for WR which got over 300 votes, 1 for SR which got over 100 votes.

i think i know who won ;)

Nah, Duel map all the way.

And I can't do WR on an open tournament, and I think my other reasons stand up. Unless you think I should just drop the whole thing, do people really not like SR?

@Fleecemaster

How is the ladder a source that determines whether or not players prefer to keep luck out of the game?

I'm assuming your respons will be that more players have joined the ladder since it changed and that it is due to luck.
I can assure you that this is not the case, because more players are joining the ladders because 1.) Players now receive a 1 month free membership when coming to warlight. 2.) More players are joining warlight now than before so it would naturally increase the population on the ladders.

If the template was changed to WR I'm sure it would receive another increase of players on it.

the main goal of this tournament was to utilise the open tournament (which in my opinion is under-used)

If this is your only important goal, then I have no more proposals, set some funny/enjoyable settings and go.

But in that case you should not give the World Championship title to the tourney (of course you can :P).
I try to explain what I mean.

I do not know the Snooker system, but for example in the Tennis this tourney can be even a Grand Slam (the format good enough for it) namely the biggest tourney level. But the "World Championship system" in the tennis is not so simple. It is based on the ATP ranking system where count not only 1 Grand Slam but 4 (plus 8 ATP1000 and 6 best of other tournies = 18 tournaments). And finally the year end ATP World Tour Final. (you can read more about the system here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_ATP_World_Tour_Finals)

As you can see, being Tennis World Champions is not to win one (even so important) tourney, it is much more.

In snooker, there is a series of tournaments, and world rating, too. But the most important one, World Championship, is way older than others. This is also tournament with highest prize, and (correct me if I am wrong) there is no annual free WL tournament with higher coin prize than Fleece's. So I think World Championship is fitting name.
Just my 5 cents.

Ok, but the snooker is not enough good example, because there are the same snooker tables and balls on every tournament while in Warlight there are many popular templates so a World Champion title can't be decided playing only on one template. This is why tennis is better example because the more surfaces.

And one more thing. in the chess there is a World Cup which is similar format than this (single elimination though, but more games in the final), but that competition is not nearly as important than the Chess World Championship (which are more difficult than the Cup!).

So ok, Fleece's format can be the Warlight World Cup :D

I... Can't use WR... With open tournaments...

I'm not sure how many more times I need to say this before it sinks in...

I can't use WR with open tournaments.
I can't use WR with open tournaments.
I can't use WR with open tournaments.
I can't use WR with open tournaments.
I can't use WR with open tournaments.
I can't use WR with open tournaments.
I can't use WR with open tournaments.
I can't use WR with open tournaments.
I can't use WR with open tournaments.

How's that? Sunk in yet?

can't use WR with open tournaments.

You can - but you need to disable coin prize.

And it can't be a "World Cup" we have had this descision before... There is no cup!!!

Maybe I'll just call it "Random open tournement that's not random because there is no luck Spring 2016"

The idea was to model it on Snooker, it's the only open tournament that exists to my knowledge that's free entry and contains a prize.

Honestly, if someone created a rival/better open tournament then I would probably take it down a notch or hand over the title to them.

The Snooker World Championship is a single elimination tournament, in Tennis, Wimbledon is considered like a World championship as it's the biggest. I'm not saying the winner of this is the best player in the world ever right now in every aspect of the game (and you would be stupid if that's what you thought, people even know that Federer is better on different surfaces)

I'm just saying it's a tournament that's open to everyone, the world even... Maybe I should call it the "Warlight Open tournament" but then what will take the World Championship title? Are we just not going to have one? If there is more than 1 then I would understand...

Yes, I could make it with no prize, is that something you would prefer?

Edit: Also that would make it dirt cheap to run, most of the cost was the prize

Edited 4/19/2016 13:39:37

Tbh, I just made it to have some fun and give the comunity something to discuss, perhaps it would be best to leave it at that and not hold another one.

Hey Fleece, I did not want to offend you at all.
This is your tournament, you pay it's price so you can give any name to it what you want :P

I just wrote my thoughts.
Btw the champions usually get a cup too :P
And in the football (but in chess too) a championship is a longer competition while the cup is a shorter, simpler one (but both winner will have a cup :P ), this is why I only proposed the World Cup name.

But, as I wrote this is your tourney, you have the right to name it.
And I still have a good chance to win it, and sounds better that I can be the World Champions than win the World Cup :D

I'm not offended, why do people always seem to think I am? I'm just trying to find something that everyone can agree on...

I realise that's impossible on Warlight though... ^_^

Ok, due to all the feedback recieved I have removed the medals and will not be hosting another tournament.