Juq admitted it wasn't a racist statement on the first page, see for yourself.

Never happened. I said today's meaning of race includes any cultural thing.

"Islam hates us."
"We're going to protect Christianity, and I can say that. I don't have to be politically correct. We're going to protect it."

You are either a racist or you are not.

Yeah, and there's different levels of being racist. To avoid some group, that is a little, but to shoot up some group, that is loads.

Bernie Sanders makes a racist remark when he says 'White people don't know whats its like to be poor'. It is well established that both white/caucasian and black/negro people are individual races. He is suggesting that the former type of people is unable to experience particular sufferings (poverty) simply because of their race. This is of course, untrue, as there are many poor white people, and therefore racist. Indeed, probably the most racist thing said on the entire campaign.

Ha ha ha. Is Sanders above having skinhues? Also, he's statistically right, with far less proportionism. Whiteskins are generally wealthier and less poor. If you want to go and call that racist, though, then there's no doubt that "When Mexico sends its people, they're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." is racist, against the Mexican nationality.

Exaggeration is sometimes a problem for English liberalists

So you do acknowledge its a problem then? You seem to be encouraging the problem by how loosely you've thrown the word racist in this thread. You called Trump's comment 'more likely just racist' before taking it back a few posts later!

Did you really not read, what, several more words ahead? It's a problem in the English tongue, and from it, meanings change sometimes. Race is now an outdated word (means specie, as if blackskins are different species. Human race.), and now racist just means anyone discriminating on cultural things. Also, I took nothing back, just wanted to see what that would make Trump, if he wouldn't be racist.

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Is this why you have been calling me ' hypocrite, stubborn, illiterate and a hopeless case with a little ego'?

This was in answer to your own insults, I know I have a major flaw which is to have an impulsive temperament, not refraining enough, but this also applies to you I suppose, hence my statement. And in response of your collection of words randomly gathered "hopeless case with a little ego" wasn't something I stated at all, you just pathetically assembled two part of things I said together. As for "stubborn" or "hypocrite" they aren't insults at all, so sorry if I offended you but if the truth hurts you, you should stop participating in online forums because many people will attack you in your own flaws you know. The only "insult" I would concede is "illiterate" but it was in answer to your own pathetic attack about my "broken English", this is the perfect example of awful reasoning when someone has nothing worth it to say or lost an argument. Good work of misinformation anyway, do you consider a political career? This would very promising. I understand better now why you support Trump so much.

I am not a native speaker of English, you knew this very well, but of course you conveniently chose to forget that too.

No, I did not know you weren't a native speaker of English, everything can be said in an online forum anyway, the only thing I know from you is that you are currently living in Australia (so you could be possibly an Aussie guy), and that earlier you were in Hong Kong (as I told you I also used to live in Wuhan, this does not prove at all I am Chinese, just a foreigner living in another country, and btw, in Hong Kong I know many people have English as their native language so this would not invalid the fact you aren't a native speaker at all Pulsey), and the only time I tried to communicate in Chinese (since you said you knew Mandarin) with you, you did not replied to me, but anyway it would be a great pleasure to discuss with you in this language, even if I admit that my fluency in this language is even more limited than my "Broken English".

It's a spelling mistake, not a grammar mistake.

The fact that your orthography sucks, does not invalidate the fact that you are unable to write or type perfectly English. From someone attacking another person because of his bad English, this is quite ridiculous.

So you've never made a single typo on this forum? Please...

I would not have considered it if you did not attacked me on my broken English. Really this is giving the stick to be beaten with. I personally try to avoid spelling mistakes since one of my main goal and my presence in this forum is to improve my English, I gladly accept people correcting me or saying something is wrong in my sentence, but I will not accept people insulting others like you did without any other reasons than derailing (again) a discussion.

And which I already told you, we debunked in this thread. Juq admitted it wasn't a racist statement on the first page, see for yourself. As for the Muslim ban, have you got an explanation on which part is racist? I'm not sure which quote you are referring to, you just say something vague and expect me to produce a counterargument. Then when I do you accuse me of derailing the topic, expecting me to read your mind (which is remarkably closed!)

Debunked? Juq smartly pointed out that "race" is an outdated notion, the right word for Trump would be "discrimination", he goes further than xenophobia which only defines the fear of the unknown, the stranger, but it is obvious Trump speeches were also tinged with a hateful tone, this is why this goes further than xenophobia. The dimension of "hate" is omitted here. I also noticed you purposely chose to ignore Juq's "frain": Was Hitler racist? I would be curious to hear your answer on it.

The question was what has Trump said with racist overtones, the answer you gave me was some waffle that politicians often change their rhetoric to fit their voting bloc, which is true but has nothing to do with the question.

No. The question was "is Trump racist?" and I explained it to you again and again, I considered he wasn't personally racist (with the example of politicians) but he nonetheless had a very racist/discriminating/hateful/xenophobic tone, and you still do not get the nuance of it, like I said it is like speaking to a deaf person, no matter what you will select what you like and ignore large amounts of paragraph to satisfy your own biased dialectics.

And I've already said no, racist is an absolute description, but never mind, these are semantics...

Like what you will teach me linguistics now? I proved it conclusively "racist" could be used to different degrees, but I guess again your "stubbornness" (oh gosh I insulted you again!) is too strong to admit what is crystal clear and obvious.

That is very true. Are there petty racists and high profile racists then?

Pathetically playing with words and twists them around will not help improving the debate here.

You still haven't given any exact quote with any actual explanation on how Trump has produced a 'racist statement'. Saying vague things like Mexican hateful speech, the Muslim ban

I already told you, we argued many times about it in many earlier threads (alongside Hitschlap, Jai, Teamguns, Juq and all), so what is the point of providing a quote that was already discussed about many times? I already know your opinion on it, and you know mine, and we both know none of us will successfully convince each other.

Ox is also right, Kellen/Numbnuts made this thread to ignite again endless arguments between us I suppose, but we already discussed about it Pulsey, do you really want to start this again and repeat ourselves endlessly about things we said in the past?

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