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Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 06:06:13


Major General Smedley Butler
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How come we haven't given up such a violent thing like government? A low estimate for government slaughter is 260 million folk, not even including wars. That's insanely violent. And what is it even for?

Protection? If you want to be protected, be ungovernable. You won't be a easy to tame cash crop, and governments won't want to take control of you.

To protect freedom? I'm pretty sure that the American government has done more to curtail American's freedom than any other organization. This is true for practically all governments.

To help the poor? Besides social programs and interventionism being a drain on the economy (and the latter favors the ultra rich and corporations) , what is the basis of welfare? Taking four of a person's ten thingies and giving him back one in a flamboyant manner.

So what is the purpose of government? To benefit those that govern.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 06:48:26


Blank
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Anarchism is a shit ideology.

If government is a stone age concept, then anarchism (as in complete freedom) is a million years behind that.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 07:14:23


Major General Smedley Butler
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Government is a shittier system. It is cancer. It is tribalism on steroids.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 07:15:57


{Canidae} Kretoma
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Humankind is the problem. We should really design something new.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 07:17:07


TeamGuns 
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I bet you're an anarcho capitalist. Well, too bad for you, that ideology is flawled and probably a worse idea then most of the ideologies on the world...
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 07:18:03


Major General Smedley Butler
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Humans aren't as bad as most folk say. The one reason you're alive today is that folk love you enough not to kill you for your things.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 07:19:03


{Canidae} Kretoma
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Anarcho Capitalists are no true Anarchists. True Anarchists abolish money.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 07:19:37


Major General Smedley Butler
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TeamGuns, you're a socialist. Like other ideologies you haven't gotten a grasp of a simple idea: Don't take other people's things without permission.

Edited 4/12/2016 07:22:45
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 07:27:02


Major General Smedley Butler
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Anarcho Capitalists are no true Anarchists. True Anarchists abolish money.


True anarchists don't try and decide how others should live their lives
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 07:32:05


Welsh Knight
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AMerica isn't perfect but its the only thing we got are you even from America? Ur a terrorist and my brothers a black beret that will behed you like you beheded freedom fighters!

Edited 4/12/2016 07:32:49
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 07:32:39


TeamGuns 
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I don't consider myself a socialist. I'm against too much of it to consider myself one. However I do strongly support most of the democratic socialists ideas.

Oh, and socialism isn't democratic socialism, they're not the same.


@Kretoma

The same can be said about democratic socialists, and yet ppl will still say they're equal. I will never understand it.


Oh and major, I love the idea that you support economic freedom and yet, I'm the one who spent money to get a membership, while you live off "fizzer welfare". Btw, I'm on the top 1% of Brazil, yet I do understand that I'm privileged and that everyone should get equal opportunities to rise in life through spending in education, healthcare and programs that fight hunger.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 07:34:30


Welsh Knight
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I used to be an anarcho-primitivist. however the capitalist system has the world by the balls and if we fight it we're not getting anywhere.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 07:40:14


{Canidae} Kretoma
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Fighting is fine. You just should not value human life that much. Life in itself is more important.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 07:48:41


Tsukiyama Shuu
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The main flaw in having a government is that most political leaders are corrupt, selfish and stupid. Along with that, the majority of voters are stupid too. Dictatorship could work if the leader wasn't a retard and thus could actually do some good for their country

Edited 4/12/2016 07:49:14
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 08:30:07


TeamGuns 
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^ A good dictator is ofc better/more efficient then a good president, but on the other hand a bad dictator is 10x worse then a bad president. Knowing human nature, it's not worth the risk.

About capitalism, we shouldn't fight capitalism, but regulate it's flaws. America beated the URSS for a reason, the best and worse part of capitalism beated the best and worse part of socialism. Mostly because the first has a better reward system to inovation and productivity then the second. Getting rid of it is pointless unless you have a real sustitute, which I'm not sure it exists.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 13:15:59


Major General Smedley Butler
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Firstly: Fizzer made this game free because that was the only way he could actually profit off of the game, through advertisements. I'm still providing him income for a service.

Second: The US does regulate capitalism, it's produced corporatism and that's the worst for everyone except the rich, because it allows them to monopolize and not compete.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 14:07:27


Cata Cauda 
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Lol, if you dont like the goverment you voted, move to another country then.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 14:09:44


Welsh Knight
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go to hell General Smudley, again!

LOL!

Edited 4/12/2016 14:10:34
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 14:11:07


Paugers
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I'm trying to involve myself in the OT political arguments lately, but these sort of threads are a turn off.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 17:46:57


Major General Smedley Butler
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Cata, just because you don't have knowledge pertaining to politics and make up for it by calling all Americans retarded, you don't get to blame a entire population for not being more proactive when they've had decades of propaganda directed towards them, only the democrats and republicans as options and constant warfare killing off intelligent folk while propagating a us versus them mentality that bolsters the ruling class.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 17:52:25


Cata Cauda 
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Solution for ALL your problems with the goverment: Move to another country.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 17:54:32


Cata Cauda 
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You have 3 options to deal with your problem. Only 2 help:

1) Continue whinning around about the terrible goverment, stealing your freedom and killing innocent people.

2) Become politician and ACTUALLY change something.

3) Move out of the country.


Now guesss which 2 help you solving your problem.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 17:59:52


Major General Smedley Butler
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Well there is someone planning to change something and I'll be voting for him in 2020. But besides that, why the hell are you defending the American government?
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 17:59:54


GeneralPE
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@Paugers
Pro-tip: quote shit. It doesn't matter what. It doesn't matter how you respond. No one reads those massive walls of text anyway. But it makes you look like contributor. For instance, I click a thread, I see Xpapy's text wall. I think, Oh shit, words! RUN!. But I also get a sense that Xpapy is important and competent. But be careful - one flippant comment can be quoted for pages, and you may never recover.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 18:17:41


GeneralPE
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Example:

Anarchism is a shit ideology.

If government is a stone age concept, then anarchism (as in complete freedom) is a million years behind that.

I believe a system of trans-humanism to be the best path.

You have 3 options to deal with your problem. Only 2 help:

1) Continue whinning around about the terrible goverment, stealing your freedom and killing innocent people.

2) Become politician and ACTUALLY change something.

3) Move out of the country.


Now guesss which 2 help you solving your problem.

No one asked you. But while were on the subject, kys.

Solution for ALL your problems with the goverment: Move to another country.

Another country would still have a government.

Lol, if you dont like the goverment you voted, move to another country then.

He probably didn't vote for it. Try again.

Firstly: Fizzer made this game free because that was the only way he could actually profit off of the game, through advertisements. I'm still providing him income for a service.

Second: The US does regulate capitalism, it's produced corporatism and that's the worst for everyone except the rich, because it allows them to monopolize and not compete.

This. 100%.

About capitalism, we shouldn't fight capitalism, but regulate it's flaws. America beated the URSS for a reason, the best and worse part of capitalism beated the best and worse part of socialism. Mostly because the first has a better reward system to inovation and productivity then the second. Getting rid of it is pointless unless you have a real sustitute, which I'm not sure it exists.

Regulation is a social discrimination which hurts the little man.

The main flaw in having a government is that most political leaders are corrupt, selfish and stupid. Along with that, the majority of voters are stupid too. Dictatorship could work if the leader wasn't a retard and thus could actually do some good for their country

You guys say this, but you would be evil too if you could.

Edited 4/12/2016 18:17:54
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 20:28:45


Жұқтыру
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You have 3 options to deal with your problem. Only 2 help:

1) Continue whinning around about the terrible goverment, stealing your freedom and killing innocent people.

2) Become politician and ACTUALLY change something.

3) Move out of the country.


Cata, you have too much faith in government, everywhere. You asked once, "why would a democratically elected government try to become an autocracy?".

1) it's not whining, it's informing folk who insist that this doesn't happen (f.e. GeneralPE)

2) Ha ha, that's not how it works in America.

3) All governments share the same evils that America does to some extents. Gov-cronyinism is just about universal.

I believe a system of trans-humanism to be the best path.


I find it hard to believe that you believe in trans-humanism, for example, you believe that Muslims are going to ruin Europe's culture, if you were transhumanist, you wouldn't care about culture. And you'd also never be for war.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/12/2016 23:44:12


TeamGuns 
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Firstly: Fizzer made this game free because that was the only way he could actually profit off of the game, through advertisements. I'm still providing him income for a service.

Second: The US does regulate capitalism, it's produced corporatism and that's the worst for everyone except the rich, because it allows them to monopolize and not compete.



1 => He profits more from me then from you, therefore I'm the rich person subsidizing your play! I say we start kicking off those poor people, that should be a great solution.

*note the sarcasm please*


2 => Hardly the US regulates capitalism, in a good way anyways. A lack of regulation on banking allied with stupid ideas of injecting money into banks created the 2008 financial crisis. A lack of oversight on wallstreet will probably create another economic crisis pretty soon, mark my words.

And to proove that regulation isn't bad for the economy, I'll use denmark as an example. The country regulates a lot capitalism, and yet it is considered the best country for business in the world.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/13/2016 00:05:59


GeneralPE
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I find it hard to believe that you believe in trans-humanism, for example, you believe that Muslims are going to ruin Europe's culture, if you were transhumanist, you wouldn't care about culture. And you'd also never be for war.

Lol look at the above post: I was spouting random nonsense to help educate Paugers on forum technique
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/13/2016 00:23:24

[WOLF]Andrew
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Smedley, I think you're a good player, but what do you think will help advance your cause? Posting on this forum won't do anything. As for me, government was created thousands of years ago by our ancestors to create order. People could kill each other for whatever reason they wished. As you would be so afraid of, they would also steal for no reason. You say government is a Stone Age system, but anarchy ended before that, and because of it. Which means you can't call government a primitive idea. Without a government of any sort, humanity would never have even gotten to the Stone Age. Government is not always good, but it's better than the alternative: people murdering, raping, and stealing without retribution. You call soldiers serial killers, and you don't like serial killers. You think justice needs to be brought against them, that they should feel retribution, right? They will receive no retribution without a government to make murder illegal, and thusly hand down the punishment.
Government: A Stone Age system: 4/13/2016 00:27:57


Major General Smedley Butler
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Tribalism and primitive despotism are the same as proper government: using violence to organize society. If you kill someone in a no government system, then everyone will hate you, folk will pay folk to protect them and even pay folk to kill you.
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