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Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/18/2016 06:00:01

JSA 
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I'm personally not a fan of Medium Earth/Modified Medium Earth as I believe there are too many rock-paper-scissors type situations that can decide the game. That said, I personally would be pro-WR.

The SR template needs to be modified since the 5 income bonuses are very OP on the new template. I'd like to see something like 3 starting armies per territory as an experiment. The WR template took a long time to "perfect". The SR template has not been changed since its creation, and it is not right to assume that what works best for WR is what works best for SR, especially when including the map change.

Even if SR MME were "perfected", I would still prefer WR. Why? Because I don't have the desire to spend time counting and discovering where the opponent may be. In multiday templates where SR is used, it often becomes a game of who spends more time figuring out exactly what the opponent did each turn from the beginning of the game. I believe with WR, it is more challenging (and sometimes impossible) to figure out exactly what the opponent did each turn, and requires more skill. I find I can play at the "top level" in WR with little effort, but to play at the top level in SR is more time-consuming without adding any extra needed skill (possibly decreasing it).

I think the top level of warlight needs to shift more towards realtime. A great deal of players can perform at the top level on most templates if played multiday (and if they have the motivation to count). Far fewer can play realtime well where they must learn what to prioritize in their counting.
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/18/2016 21:46:52


Benjamin628 
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O.o that opinion switched quite a bit. Well said JSA!
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/18/2016 21:47:00


Benjamin628 
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Edit: laggy double post

Edited 4/18/2016 22:05:55
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/19/2016 22:20:47


Master Jz 
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Local Deployments Glenrowan. This plays faster than Turkey due to the smaller map and extra armies per territory.
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10964084

I am open to make tweaks to it and welcome testers.

Edit: This is for the real time ladder.

Edited 4/19/2016 22:24:50
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/19/2016 22:25:25


zażółć gęślą jaźń
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Was Guiroma always on SR?
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/19/2016 23:08:51


Beren Erchamion 
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Guiroma is traditionally on 16% SR
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/20/2016 00:19:12


Motoki 
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I don't like that map jz :( there really little variety in it
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/20/2016 01:44:30


Benjamin628 
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@Jz try it on a bigger map, like turkey <3
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/20/2016 03:28:42


Master Jz 
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Well, we could keep using Turkey and try the extra armies per territory to try and speed it up.

There's probably a 60 territory map that would work, but I probably won't get to finding it before the deadline.

Edited 4/20/2016 03:32:29
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/20/2016 13:33:27


Sułtan Kosmitów
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Check out that France LD template I posted. How do you like that one?
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/20/2016 13:57:19


Benjamin628 
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My battle islands LD games last around 10 turns. It uses neutrals of 1
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/20/2016 14:07:03


Sułtan Kosmitów
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@Ben Please post a game or if you haven't got one you can invite me.
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/20/2016 14:11:45


Benjamin628 
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Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/20/2016 14:18:27


Sułtan Kosmitów
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It is ok, though 1s make you don't have to care about leftovers and delays management is a bit impaired.

Imo this was a reason why Heavy Earthbon RT was bad.
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/20/2016 14:27:30


Master Jz 
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Sułtan Kosmitów, I worry that it'll be slower than Turkey LD because it's on a bigger map.
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/20/2016 14:34:27


Sułtan Kosmitów
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more base income, open map, more picks. + expirience show that it's shorter ;)
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/20/2016 16:02:20


Benjamin628 
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Maybe France LD is the best option in terms of LD templates. I think nobody has made a good template for this fun game mode, kinda sad.
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/22/2016 00:18:33


NinjaNic 
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Edit: Removed template.

Edited 4/22/2016 19:50:43
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/22/2016 02:11:19

[wolf]japan77
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Lol NinjaNic, your template is gonna make a top player lose to a geography major.
Official ladder polls: Suggest templates!: 4/22/2016 16:30:56


Sephiroth
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Battle Islands LD is clearly worse than Turkey LD for it's bigger and it has chokepoints

Edited 4/22/2016 16:31:08
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