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Rename the USA to:: 4/27/2016 20:20:50


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A lot of immigrants retain most or all of their culture after immigrating to the US. This is particularly visible for immigrants such as mexicans, who in a lot of cases even still speak spanish.


And far more don't, after a few begots. They assimilate into the Germanic English culture that America is mostly made of, though for Spanish, there's enough that they have got their own communities.

it's not a matter of what you actually are that creates divisions, but what you identify as.


You aren't your "heritage", nor do you identify as it.
Rename the USA to:: 4/27/2016 20:26:22


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^ Fredonia is great at converting folk to Frede culture

Edited 4/27/2016 20:58:06
Rename the USA to:: 4/27/2016 21:08:33


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And far more don't, after a few begots. They assimilate into the Germanic English culture that America is mostly made of, though for Spanish, there's enough that they have got their own communities.


Even immigrants who are assimilated and start speaking english (and I will point out that many of them don't) still retain their cultures in the US. Just one of the numerous examples is that although Lutherans are a very small minority in the US, they are a very concentrated minority. Specifically, they are concentrated in places with high percentages of german americans, swedish americans, and norwegian americans:

Minnesota: 29% Lutheran
North Dakota: 27% Lutheran
Wisconsin: 19% Lutheran
South Dakota: 18% Lutheran
Iowa: 16% Lutheran
Nebraska: 15% Lutheran
Montana: 9% Lutheran
Michigan: 7% Lutheran
Illinois: 6% Lutheran
Wyoming: 6% Lutheran

Edited 4/27/2016 21:22:07
Rename the USA to:: 4/27/2016 23:07:41


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Ethnicity is more than just faith, and sometimes not at all related to faith.

I'd say self-identification and mother tongue are the biggest ways to tell ethnicity, and not identification of bloodline, but self-identification.
Rename the USA to:: 4/27/2016 23:16:06


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Obviously the biggest one is self identification. For the most part, there's not really any qualifications for identifying with a nation/culture.
Rename the USA to:: 4/27/2016 23:49:31


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I know a Neo-Nordist , who's a Scotmark nationalist. Does that mean they're not Fredonian culture? Heck no.
Rename the USA to:: 4/28/2016 08:34:13


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@Imperator

Way more people claim to have Spanish ancestry in the US, since most of the Latin Americans/Hispanics can trace their origin to Spain (some having mixed with Amerindians), and in places like New Mexico, Texas or California, you had Spanish people before the US annexed it (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexican_Spanish).


A lot of immigrants retain most or all of their culture after immigrating to the US. This is particularly visible for immigrants such as mexicans, who in a lot of cases even still speak spanish.


They can claim to have foreign ancestors (like most of the Americans), but most of them aren't Irish, German etc. Most of them lost any cultural trait from their ancestors, they ceased to speak the language, ceased to have the cultural references that once their ancestors had. I agree with you though about the Hispanics successfully retained their culture, but they are an exception in comparison to other minorities such as Germans, French, Russians, etc.
Rename the USA to:: 4/28/2016 08:51:45


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And my opinion about "Freedonia" it is an awful name really, in Foreign languages it sounds like a weird species of flower or a famous toothpaste brand...
Rename the USA to:: 4/28/2016 15:58:15


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Way more people claim to have Spanish ancestry in the US, since most of the Latin Americans/Hispanics can trace their origin to Spain (some having mixed with Amerindians), and in places like New Mexico, Texas or California, you had Spanish people before the US annexed it (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexican_Spanish).


These people aren't claiming ancestry from spain, since the meaning of "hispania" isn't widely know. Rather, folks who claim "Latino/Hispanic" ancestry are identifying with mexico, central america, and south america.

Yes, technically if you identify as "Hispanic" you are claiming ancestry from spain, but this isn't what most people mean when they use the term in america.

They can claim to have foreign ancestors (like most of the Americans), but most of them aren't Irish, German etc. Most of them lost any cultural trait from their ancestors, they ceased to speak the language, ceased to have the cultural references that once their ancestors had. I agree with you though about the Hispanics successfully retained their culture, but they are an exception in comparison to other minorities such as Germans, French, Russians, etc.


See my point about religion above. The same can be said for most Irish americans, who remain mostly catholics.

It's not just faith. If you are traveling between different regions of the US there are differences in accents, food, politics, and the way people act in general, all owing to different cultures.
Rename the USA to:: 4/28/2016 20:16:40


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If you are traveling between different regions of the US there are differences in accents, food, politics, and the way people act in general, all owing to different cultures.


There are minicultures, but it's all pretty much the same. Also, changes in polit and accents don't really have anything to do with culture.
Rename the USA to:: 4/28/2016 20:18:54


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Yes, I'm sure all americans are the same to you, being from somewhere that's not america. I actually live in the US, and I've actually traveled around, so I feel that I have a better idea about it than you do.

Edited 4/28/2016 20:23:09
Rename the USA to:: 4/28/2016 20:32:46


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Curb it. You probably see more difference in between them since you're one, I have a better perspect to you since I'm precisely not American.
Rename the USA to:: 4/28/2016 20:52:21


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I mean I'm just saying, it's much more likely that you're going to generalize all americans as the same (as you're doing) if you're an outsider who's never even been to america.

Edited 4/28/2016 20:55:06
Rename the USA to:: 4/28/2016 20:59:12


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And it's much more likely you'll differentiate far more if you live in.
Rename the USA to:: 4/28/2016 21:02:29


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It's all a matter of relativity. When cultures are similar, a different culture can very easily see these as petty differences, but in reality although the differences are fairly minor, they are differences, and they do entail the cultures being different, especially tin the eyes similar ones.
Rename the USA to:: 4/28/2016 21:34:37


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they do entail the cultures being different, especially tin the eyes similar ones.


Americans have more unity with themselves than with Mexicans or Cubans, end of tale.
Rename the USA to:: 4/28/2016 21:35:53


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let rename the usa to the united state of america
Rename the USA to:: 4/28/2016 21:39:48


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i prefer the name "The only country that matters"
Rename the USA to:: 4/28/2016 21:53:30


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ya
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