@ZeroBlindDragon: You are a strange neutral observer and I'm not entirely sure what you think I would have claimed. If you are referring to me mentioning that M'Hunters has higher standards for joining then the other clans have their requirements on their clan page and a 40% requirement (assuming random opponents) should mean that you are cool with 5 ladder picks.

Edit: Since I'm home now and can see how the ladder looks like, let's take a better sample size than top 100 and instead use top 34.
- 101st: 0
- M'Hunters: 3 directly and when counting alts + unkanked players but with rating then 6 (now including fifi + SuperSmoove + jhk)

Edited 4/26/2016 18:37:57

Lol, Nogals (and others) built up a clan comparable to all clans mentioned here in a quarter of the time. NWO is the best clan to be in if you like only RT Games.

"What is true however is that 101st, Hydra and C.O.R.P. are more welcoming than M'Hunters, as a strategic clan we don't accept players who pick 5 spots in ladder games."

@Norman: This claim. I suppose you're not aware of 101st's prerequisites for joining? I suggest you take a look at their clan page.

Furthermore, you mentioned about recruiting the Top 100/150 in 1v1 Ladder, which is exactly why I specifically wrote "Top 100" in my previous post. If you want to play this comparison game, why not compare Top 15 by adding Lynx players in while we're at it? After all, Lynx members are also part of 101st.

Edited 4/26/2016 22:04:15

If you want to play this comparison game[...]

No, I don't want to and you started with it. However 101st must have changed their recruitement requirements quite recently with now also requiring stuff like daily activity + ladder rank. A clan which only accepts active ladder players will quite naturally have a higher percentage of active ladder players in their rank. Of course daily activity + being constantly ranked in the ladder is unrealistic in the long term and the new 101st wouldn't accept most of Lynx players with their new requirements... but whatever, as long as they have fun.

Edited 4/26/2016 20:02:49

Why does norman always argue about how good MH is or isn't? Also all others, nobody cares about ladder ranks or clan prerequisites! Think big! Think elitist!

Didnt M'hunters come 3rd in division D1 after saying they'd win by a massive margin... lol

Didnt M'hunters come 3rd in division D1 after saying they'd win by a massive margin... lol

It's possible that someone made such a statement however I don't remember it. Despite we probably didn't make such a statement I do like the attitude behind it. Clan league 7 was never intended by us to be more than a training plattform for some of our interested members. I'm organising the clan league 8 for our clan and this time our plan is indeed not to merely "win by a massive margin" but to to completely annihilate the other clans.

Edited 4/26/2016 20:59:22

Systems are set for MAXIMUM EXTERMINATION!

Don't count your chickens before they hatch, Norman.

Also not telling Chris about your alts leads to disqualification. *cough* Dalek

I wish M'Hunters the best in D division in Clan League 8.

What I think one thing that is clearly different between M'Hunters and 101st is hunger and ambition. I believe personally what I've achieved with my recruits is the difference between the clans, The players I've recruited into 101st have been active, hungry and competitive. We are hungry for competition, We are hungry to improve and I think we've spent the most amount of time out of most clans in the whole of clan league discussing line-ups and possible combinations of team-mates etc. Which I hope will show in clan league.

M'Hunters no offense made with all the respect to their incredibly skilled players in my opinion doesn't hold enough hunger or ambition to make forward movements to the point where Norman makes this competition as a "training platform", If M'Hunters really wanted it they should've been out of D division and should be looking to get into B this season. I don't believe with M'Hunters it's a question if they can win it.. They clearly have players that can do it, People are viewing there group of players as "B" League level. It's there lack of interest in clan league or perhaps general interest in competing in competitions to do very well in. For Norman to say they are planning to "annihilate" the other clans in a League where it is basically a 2 clan league (M'Hunters + Hydra) with a outside shot of CORP sneaking in, It's just a joke, This should be expected off them easily.

I've been getting some impressions or signs this is some kind of 101st vs M'Hunters, My basic fundamental belief in Warlight is effort + personality + attitude is the greatest 3 traits you can have perhaps even more so then skill. I believe if we exclude Lynx and pretend the 101st clan with the same group of players with its recruitment rate at the moment in the long-term out pass M'Hunters. This was made for practice for clan league https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d-cxrzjBYDPH3j0sELSvh_rT0v-PSzuplFSco2mdnN8/edit#gid=0 where some of M'Hunters top top players didn't even show up, Yes maybe it's because they have lives and have other things on their mind or are busy. But 101st players had full participation and even had more to make a "B" Team. This is what the difference is between the two clans and is why in the long-term if the same player stay together which shouldn't due to the Lynx system, 101st should in time become strong and outpass M'Hunters.

This is in no way personal insults to M'Hunters, I'm simply speaking my mind and if taken as an insult should be taken as motivation ;)

Edited 4/26/2016 21:42:41

please, plat. you're making me hungry.

So are we all pretending that Clan League matters and that which division a clan is in a direct way of ranking the clans?

So are we all pretending that Clan League matters and that which division a clan is in a direct way of ranking the clans?

In some ways yes Great Expanse, If a clan is making a claim of how good they are which is notorious trait for Norman about M'Hunters then I believe Clan League is a place a clan should show-off their abilities and members capabilities. Now, People have very different ways of rating clans but on a strategical aspect I believe Clan League is the best indication. If you look at Clan League A for CL8 people are saying this is how the elite clans will fair up with Masters proving to be the best clan on WarLight.

On a community + fun aspect of course this is not the right indication of measure and shouldn't either.

Of course Clan League matters GE, how else will we get awesome charts?!?

Also, to be very frank, I'm getting tired of certain people talking about how good their clan is. As far as I can tell they are never going to give a fair opinion. Norman, you wrote a great warlight guide, but I don't see the need to insert the snarky remarks and implied comments I commonly see from you.

Edited 4/26/2016 22:21:34

Clan League doesn't matter because its more a ranking of a clan's age in the league then their skill level. The recent glut of clans signing up has ruined the ability for clan league to legitimately rank clans.

Fundamentally it is impossible and stupid to rank clans. When you are comparing clans like Ragnar Lothbrok is trying to do, go based on a clan's culture. What clan will he like best, what clan will he mesh with those players best?

I agree totally Great Expense with how Ragnok Lothbrok should select a clan, Based on culture not clan league status. This was not the point I was making, I believe the thread got slightly de-railed about Norman and M'Hunters and we misunderstood each other. I totally agree with your point above ^

I still think there's a gap in competitive WL that limits the head-to-head competition between clans, and Clan League's the closest thing we have to filling that gap but it doesn't quite do the job due to it's Promotion/Relegation nature (which led to the clusterfuck we saw in the D divisions) and because not everyone organizes/tries to win.

Organization/hardwork to win should count into a clan quality lol. As plat said, the problem with M'H isn't the fact that they are in D, but that they should've clearly won CL7 easily and they didn't; D was very weak last season, weaker than now.

Even a bad M'H team could have got promoted with proper organization. Skill-wise, M'H would fight for promotion in an eventual B, in a organization/hardwork level, I'm not that sure.

Edited 4/26/2016 23:15:06

lol u guys derail these threads all da time

wanna join a clan???????????????

join the wacos!!!!!!!!!