Hey guys and hey Fizzer,

with normal fog, it is impossible to spectate running games. Therefore you could change this, that spectators can see the borders. With this change, they would see these parts of the map, which both players already know.

What do you think about this suggestion?

/mamuc

This would be a good idea if the spectator can only see player territories that directly border each other.

Being able to see all borders would be bad, as you as spectator could then potentially know more about each player's position than their opponent. This could lead to players using an alt to check on their opponent's postion, or spectators passing information to one of the players.

Any implementation that may enable a player to cheat should never be made imo.

Edited 4/27/2016 10:40:06

I like the idea, but what if someone plays a game and specates it with an alt, guesses all his positions and its almost unstoppable?

Huddyj's idea with only bordering territories showing would be useful. However that gets problematic on FFAs.

I meant that spectators can see, what both player already see.

It would make sense if they threw in an extra bit of code for spectators. If a territory is already visible to all players, reveal it to spectators. so if it's a free for all, unless every player borders one territory, everything will still stay hidden, but for 1v1 or team games, it'll let spectators see all the borders between the two teams/players.

+1 for this idea.. Jake's idea as well

Bad idea.

I would like this for checking the status of tournament games that have not finished yet. It would be a lot of fun in the clan league, where many people have a vested interest in the outcome of a game.

Why not just play games with no fog?

Because I like fog, but its annyoing for spectators. The possibility to watch running games with fog is totally senseless.

I got the idea in a tournament, too.

Would also be very cool for livestreams or seasonal games! Stalling might be reduced on the ladders too, cause everyone sees immediately when someone is stalling

I could see a problem with doing this: Let's say both players see a neutral territory located between their bonuses. If players could check the board as a spectator(by using an alt or having someone else check it out for them), they could find out if the other person is within 1 territory of themselves, since they could see that the other player could also see the border-territory.

That's a good point. Don't know how you would get around it.

No Markus the idea is not to see all borders from each player, but all common borders between players involved. And as mentionned above, it can not work in FFA, it can only work in 2 team games. 100% with you macmuc.

i tought you can only see the territories EVERY Player on the game can see at that Point. i don't see a Problem with that

Edit: what mike said 10sec before me

Edited 4/27/2016 16:38:36

What MoD said, actually, that makes a lot of sense and I would be for that.

Edit: What MoD said mike said 20 seconds before me

Edited 4/27/2016 16:45:45

Although I would suggest that doesn't include anything spied, recon, etc. As that would let a player know they have been spied on etc.

Although thinking about it, if card use is visable, perhaps it would make sense to include that too.

It should only apply to situations where all players can see a territory, AND all players know that all other players can see that territory.

^ which could get a bit complicated to code but still a really cool idea.