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The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 17:32:28


NoonTiger 
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Subject: The Peoples voice on cheaters in the Warlight Community/Game.<<<<OPEN DISCUSSION>

To: Fizzer
Concerning: Sara C and Uncle Sam
Subject: confessed to using multiple accounts by slip of the tongue


2016/04/21 10:26:09 Uncle Sam - I have to mention that Sara has access to my account if one actually matters


I'd like to say that this game has been a wonderful experience. I've shared some great games with many competitive players. Those who were ready to compete, I'd like to say you are the community Warlight needs. I'm rather proud to be a player that is ready to compete when I enter a match. Those who also know how true this is have my thanks. I have to thank the people who cooperated in gathering this evidence.

I've reached my limit at how others can go around the internet and cheat. These people should not deserve to be treated as competitive players in any respect. I believe they should be shut down. There has been trouble within The East India Company. I will present to everybody my knowledge of the person's involved. Here I will list a certain match. There will be screenshots of a player involvement with multiple accounts used competitively to acquire wins. Due to a slip of the tongue. I will nab this cheater with my evidence provided with sample images. This player and their affiliates to their account must be shutdown. The player has been caught modifying the experience by giving one player an advantage over others. *wiki* it is either a matter of game policy or consensus opinion as to whether a particular activity is considered to be cheating. Johan Huizinga defines cheating as the action of pretending to obey the rules of the game, while secretly subverting them to gain advantage over an opponent*


In chat, Notice the Chat between Sara C, Uncle Sam in particular. The person in question at the present date was Sara C for rigging the match in her favor. Much of this chat was during february 22nd onward until they drift off. at this time, I had no prior knowledge of the next Evidence I'd like to present.
2020 world diplo + Clash of Titans (ongoing matches)

The next Slide of images is an ally chat between Ragnar, Uncle Sam, and I. In this next section will include 4 photos in this sequence. During the game is our ally chat. https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10989418



after I found this slip of the tongue. I decided to go down the rabbit hole. Get your popcorn ready.

End of Part 1. (ongoing)

Edited 4/29/2016 00:25:53
The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 17:39:19


NoonTiger 
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Yeah, I agree it's totally shady. It was clearly her account at one point "lighting swift" on the same date.



The following three rules are presented to all players the first time they play a game with other players:

1.You shall be respectful to other players at all times.
2.Racial slurs, personal attacks, excessive profanity, or any other offensive language will not be tolerated.
3.You shall not operate more than one WarLight account in a way that gives you an advantage in a game, tournament or ladder.
4.You may never operate or access more than one account with a coin balance or that plays coin games, and that account may never be used by another person.

It's also important to note that additional rules exist in the WarLight terms of service. These rules aren't displayed as prominently since they're common sense, but they still apply. Examples include, but are not limited to, impersonating other players, rigging games, launching denial-of-service attacks, or *using someone else's account without their permission.

end part 2. (on going)

I will be presenting next a match named 2020 world diplo. Created by Sara C using Custom Scenario.
Here is a list of players involved in the next match.
...

Edited 4/28/2016 18:04:22
The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 17:41:30


Nogals
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TL; DR

someone bitching about something irrelevant
The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 17:42:56


NoonTiger 
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2016/04/21 10:26:09 Uncle Sam - I have to mention that Sara has access to my account if one actually matters


Edited 4/28/2016 18:01:42
The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 17:43:10


Okabe Rintarou ( AKA Hououin Kyouma)
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Good Work Detective Holmes
The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 17:52:41


NoonTiger 
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https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10510536

Here is 0 turn in 2020 World Diplo. Why does sara have a proxy next to me? I am slot Indonesia. Not Sara.



I'm surprised I even survived my 1st turn. i was doomed for failure if I was attacked with 2 armies on any other front against that 150 mounted army. I had to airlift 7x to defend against an attack that would've otherwise killed me. Having to Put all my resources into Defending On turn 1. #rigged





turn 2 I used a bomb on the pirates, Reducing their army by half. 65 reduced to 32. I attacked with 81 armies. Taking andaman. Note how lack-luster my position is compared to Sara's. I pulled out an incredible win. Even against my odds. Had Sara even the slightest idea to attack me. I'd have lost my land immediately




By Turn 11 I had nothing to do now. Here is how it looked.

The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 17:57:18


NoonTiger 
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2020 world diplo https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10510536
Player list:
    tbutrie1916
    StarfareZ
    Cactus Justice
    Sara C
    dunamis
    [No Longer Wolf] James
    NoonTiger
    Taco King
    Chin Chin
    [East] Totally Not Zane
    Polish Eagle
    Capricornia
    Eternal Emperor
    Rache2013
    Eveline
    Slayde4
    EmperorNapoleon1
    Uncle Sam
    BlazinCake
    Player2
    Lmao Zedong of the Broviet Union
    Zitihix
    DarkMaster98
    [East] Walker JC3
    Zenvue
    Systiem
    Eire16
    Kai
    Tayden Jones
    R3xation
    illuminati
    Korean Empire


Clash of Titans https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10989418
Teams + player list.
    madmen
    Sara C
    Pinky Pie

    NoonTiger
    uncle Sam
    Ragnar

    Taran
    HavokSD
    Warlord

    CelestialCrow
    Max Knüppeljäger
    coldsnark

    Hemlor
    [NL]andreassch
    Wom

    Sea Goat
    joHexi
    Leo Spath


Edited 4/28/2016 18:11:31
The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 18:43:46


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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The Forum isn't the place to report cheaters. that is what the report button is for.
The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 18:45:30


NoonTiger 
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I was looking for consensus. I believe that's how cheaters are also decided right? I just believe if it concernings such large groups like above. That by consensus, more people should be notified of said cheater. It's in the warlight rules that users can't possess multiple accounts

The Rules

The following three rules are presented to all players the first time they play a game with other players:

1.You shall be respectful to other players at all times.
2.Racial slurs, personal attacks, excessive profanity, or any other offensive language will not be tolerated.
3.You shall not operate more than one WarLight account in a way that gives you an advantage in a game, tournament or ladder.
4.You may never operate or access more than one account with a coin balance or that plays coin games, and that account may never be used by another person.
It's also important to note that additional rules exist in the WarLight terms of service. These rules aren't displayed as prominently since they're common sense, but they still apply. Examples include, but are not limited to, impersonating other players, rigging games, launching denial-of-service attacks, or using someone else's account without their permission.

Additionally, since WarLight displays ads, players must also abide by the rules imposed by the advertisers. The following is not allowed to be submitted or linked to:

pornographic content or links to pornographic content
erotic stories or descriptions of sexual acts
sexual jokes
erotic or sexual forums


Edited 4/28/2016 18:51:38
The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 18:51:21


Tonald Dump
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Yeah they're most likely the same person. They even have the same flag (hong kong).

All you can do is report them.
The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 19:11:37


NoonTiger 
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Yeah it's surprising the number of people I've messaged have agreed. I have tried to connect these dots and I feel it is clear how Sara C and Uncle Sam are operating. Does it seem clear? I felt that I created a good case here and my evidence is presented in a concise way. I am doing this to show others that we can shut down a person for rigging the game. You get what I'm trying to do?

it is either a matter of game policy or consensus opinion as to whether a particular activity is considered to be cheating.

Edited 4/28/2016 19:20:23
The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 19:31:42


NoonTiger 
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The only reason everyone is speculating about this. Is because in our clan. We all think she did it. I think she did it. all the facts are coming out. Honestly, theres no reason you need to break an appointment to give me a cookie but thank you
The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 19:31:53


Davidian
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TBH I've been in some games with Sara C and some shit was always dodgy. This would make sense.

This place is for casual risk playing, why do people go to such lengths to subvert thaT?
The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 19:34:48


OxTheAutist 
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EIC: Conservative abandons it with Cade to emigrate, [No longer Wolf] James rigs games, Paugers tries to manage the thing but gets corrupted by the forum , Sara C cheating. Jesus this is like Warlight's Mexico.

xD sorry
The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 19:38:41


TBest 
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A few Notes.

1. As already said multiple times, use the REPORT function. Not the forum.
2. "3.You shall not operate more than one WarLight account in a way that gives you an advantage in a game, tournament or ladder." Doesn't say you can't have more than one account. Just don't 'cheat'.
3. "I was looking for consensus. I believe that's how cheaters are also decided right? " Nope. You report. Moderator reviews. Another Moderator decides final action.
The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 20:00:33


NoonTiger 
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1. I understand what the report button is used for. I believe that she has been very underhanded to our clan. Openly making multiday games to the public with her alt accounts should be notified to people everywhere. This was not only something that should be reported but announced. I'll just be direct. By sending this word out to people to acknowledge the fact that our clan had our hiccups.

2.at the very least, we made it public that Sara and her pseudo account we're operating under the same name at one point. 08/15/2015 On this date, there was a name change from Lightning Swift for both affiliates.

3.Had this been another game where it was not indie. How difficult would it be to measure that cheating reportedly happened without others consensus? Would people care and how many would be angered, and why would it matter if the silence became deafening.

I will use the in-game report button

Edited 4/28/2016 20:07:55
The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 20:16:38


Bane 
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noon tiger? more like Detective noon tiger
The Peoples voice on: 4/28/2016 20:18:24


Carlos
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1.Probably the same person. Just report.
2.About same flag, sometimes friends in real life (im not saying it is this case) plays together and others think that they are the same person. Or some players from countries with less players helps people from the same country.
3.You should work as investigator.
The Peoples voice on: 4/29/2016 07:50:07


Capricornia 
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I was playing this game and everyone attacked me cause they thought I was just being nasty for branding her as a 'rigger' xD. I'm glad that this user has been exposed though
The Peoples voice on: 5/3/2016 16:32:25


Kai
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noon tiger would be a great detective.
woo.
The Peoples voice on: 5/3/2016 16:43:51


Zephyrum 
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I thought this thread was deleted, saw it before class, spent all class thinking of some nice shitpost and came back and it wasn't there :P
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