Governments don't keep people in check, they hire them and send them to war. You're insane if you think governments don't kill on a regular basis more than humans.

How many folk has the US government killed? 20-50 million folk. That's evil.

What about China? 45 million in the Great Leap Forward , alone. Evil.

Nazi Germany? 11 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals and other assorted folk. Evil.

All governments? Mass organized robbery and killing.

Governments are run by humans. It's humans who make the decision to slaughter by the millions. Take government away and people will simply find other means of arranging slaughter.

For example, what happens if we take away the Courts? The only justice remaining is Mob Justice. Mobs are by nature idiotic, psychopathic, and impossible to reason with. Witch-hunts and "Guilty until proven innocent" will become the name of the game. Despite what you say, a government CAN be negotiated with, it can be controlled and regulated through various means.

I'd rather have a monster that can be manipulated than a monster that can't.

You use social ostracization and economic embargo.

Governments are monopolies of violence that are far stronger than a individual man, and can't be negotiated with most of the time. A individual can be a monster, but not on the scale of a government.

I meant it is better to be feared by other states, not your people.

If you are feared by another country, they will take any chance to take you down. If you are loved, well, they won't. It's just that easy.

You're insane if you think governments don't kill on a regular basis more than humans.

Murder is illegal, and usually systematically tried to be stopped by governments, as it lowers the population, which is bad for the country.

In 2015, there were about 450k folk murdered by another, not in any kind of war setting, and generally each year, about 500k are killed. In 2015, about 150k folk were killed in a war setting, with no regulating force.

I'd much rather live in a government of kinds than not ungovernment where anything goes. Social ostrasisation won't do a thing to psycopaths or sociopaths. Economic embargo? You mean the nonexistent organisation it takes to do a boycott?

Marxism is all fine, but there's nothing stopping some big business from getting some guns, taking over, and making you pay fees each year, and just like that, comes a new government.

No one will buy or sell it you if you just robbed Steven, and if you killed him private police would be after you.

The business that does that will have to unify with others, lots of others. This is harder than what governments usually get created by (other governments, tribalism and violence) because it takes putting all the pieces together and trying to keep them together while expecting everyone to be ok with involuntary exchanges.

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No one will buy or sell it you if you just robbed Steven, and if you killed him private police would be after you.

Sure, they would, just as folk sell folk to crimers today. They don't care what you do with it, just as long as they get money for it, and without government regulation, such deeds will happen only more.

Private watch? Not going to happen, there's no individual motivation for it.

The business that does that will have to unify with others, lots of others.

Not even that, but just set up their own zones of dominance, which will become countries and the lines between them will become battlegrounds.

If you are feared by another country, they will take any chance to take you down. If you are loved, well, they won't. It's just that easy.

No. If you are loved, okay, but what if someone needs your oil? They won't just say, "I love this guy" and not take what they need. They may feel bad about it, but they require it nevertheless. However, when you are feared, no one will be willing to attack you even if they want your shit. Furthermore, it is not possible to be loved by everyone; conflict of interests will prevent it. You can't be loved by Ukraine and Russia, or the Saudis and Iran, or India and Pakistan. It just can't happen. On the other hand, it very easy to be feared by both.

One more thing - don't confuse being hated and feared. The former will result in the scenario you described, where "they will take any chance to take you down." This is like the USA attacking the Nazis. The latter will result in them not attacking you for fear of being destroyed - like the USA not attacking the USSR.

You can be loved by practically everyone with this one simple trick: Free trade.

Major, you seem to hate all kinds of goverments... I personally like my goverment. The Austrian goverments kills no people and sends no people to war.
Apparently your goverment is shit, move to another country.

^ Your government dear Cata tends to have highly xenophobic and far right policies, making useless walls all around Austria (is Austria getting inspired by Trump's program??). So about "shitty" governments, Austria is far from being an example.

if someone needs your oil? They won't just say, "I love this guy" and not take what they need.

Well, there's trading for it. If they refuse to trade for it, and one country invades the other, it is one country's fault for taking the warpath, and the other's for accepting it, and not just giving the petrol.

However, when you are feared, no one will be willing to attack you even if they want your shit.

That's proven to be wrong many times (such as the First World War), in truth, America officially invaded Iraq out of fear that it developed some superweapons, and some politicians in America advocate for airstrikes on Choson to take out its core weapon capabilities, along with shooting down all its space vehicles.

Furthermore, it is not possible to be loved by everyone; conflict of interests will prevent it.

Unluckily, yes, and in a world without war, this would not be a problem. As is, take love over fear how much you can.

One more thing - don't confuse being hated and feared. The former will result in the scenario you described, where "they will take any chance to take you down." This is like the USA attacking the Nazis. The latter will result in them not attacking you for fear of being destroyed - like the USA not attacking the USSR.

The latter nearly killed millions of innocent folk, and only a few fellows who were bold enough to disobey protocol to launch core missiles saved those millions. One time, in the Caribbean Crisis, the American navy tried to set up a transport blockade about Cuba, and there was a Russian core submarine team that got caught in the blockade. The above ships dropped some rounds near the Russian underwater ship as a warning, so that it would surface or go back, but the Russian submarine commander thought that the war began between America and Russia, and protocol would have it to try and take down the American ships, and then to open the doors and launch a dozen core missiles, but the captain chose not to go to such deadly members, and saved New York, Moskva, Los Angeles, Leningrad, and many other boroughs.

And although full-out war was narrowly avoided, they still took whatever chance they could to step up each other, Americans funding the Islamists in Afghanistan, or trying to overthrow the Soviet-friendly Cuba, while Russians helping out the North Vietnamese and Korean, and in both countries, colossal amounts devoted to military forces.

The Austrian goverments kills no people and sends no people to war.

Austria has draft...and is part of NATO, so participates in a few NATO deeds, like in Afghanistan.

^ Your government dear Cata tends to have highly xenophobic and far right policies, making useless walls all around Austria (is Austria getting inspired by Trump's program??). So about "shitty" governments, Austria is far from being an example.

Show me proof of said wall.

Austria has draft...and is part of NATO, so participates in a few NATO deeds, like in Afghanistan.

Common mistake. Austria is neutral and not in the NATO.
Edit: We have draft, because we are neutral and need a way to defend ourselves.

Edited 4/29/2016 22:44:23

Common mistake. Austria is neutral and not in the NATO.

All right, but it's still fighting in Afghanistan, and it still has military draft, so it doesn't redeem it much. Have less faith in your government, be sceptic.

All right, but it's still fighting in Afghanistan, and it still has military draft, so it doesn't redeem it much. Have less faith in your government, be sceptic.

Have to disappoint you again. Austria never fought in Afghanistan.

Edit: If you mean with "Draft" Conscription, then I personally see no problem with that.

Edited 4/29/2016 22:47:41

Austria is a little bitch, little Hitlerites.

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The UK is the US little bitch. Followed America into Iraq and Afghanistan without even questioning it.
British soldiers died for America's wars. How does that feel to you, huh?

Edited 4/29/2016 22:52:14

Have to really disappoint you Cata, but Austria through the Pfp was in Afghanistan. The Pfp is also basically a NATO friend organization, so both of his criticisms are valid.