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The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/6/2016 15:21:04

Phaeril 
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Hi everyone,

Need Pseudo & Country for inscription

Since Qi/strategos seems to be inactive, I propose to take some ideas of his Champion's league to create another kind of league seeded by nations: The Warlight World Champions League.
This league will be played in three rounds and aim to give a champion twice a year (two seasons per year) by playing 1v1s, 2v2s and 3v3s.
Furthermore, this league will be individual, but will have the particularity to be seeded by nations (as for UEFA champions league: clubs are seeded by nations). Each nation will get a score from the previous participations of his members, and best nations will get more spots. Each nation will have the choice to send who they wanted (the model of intern qualification spot: a league system approved by organizers is better).

Players will vote for 12 1v1 templates, 3 2v2 templates, 5 3v3 templates

ROUND ONE
36 players
6 groups of 6 players, 10 total games per player
Templates: Top 12 voted 1v1 will be picked out of a hat and assigned to each RR. Each RR will have two different templates.
1v1s: 2x6-player RR (2x5 games)
Points: 1 point per win.
Top 2 players of each group advance to Round Two.
Tiebreakers: Global head to head results first. If not determined, to play a 1v1 ME 0% WR (old 1v1 ladder) game in real time. Winner advances.

ROUND TWO
12 players
3 groups of 4 players (2 firsts of their groups in round#1 phase and 2 seconds) , 6 total games per player
Templates: Top 3 voted 1v1 and top 3 voted 2v2 templates will be picked out of a hat and assigned to each RR. Each RR will have a different template.
1v1s: 4-player RR (3 games)
2v2s: 12v34, 13v24, 14v23 (3 games)
Points: 1 point per win.
Top 2 players of each group advance to the Final Six.
Tiebreakers: 2v2 results > Global head to head results

FINAL SIX
6 players
16 total games per player (5 1v1s, 6 2v2s, 5 3v3s)
1v1s: 1v1 RR (5 games). Random template from among top 5 voted templates.
2v2s: Players are seeded 1-6 based on total points (Rounds 1+2). Players play three RRs on top 3 voted templates.
RR#1: 16v25, 16v34, 25v34
RR#2: 15v24, 15v36, 24v36
RR#3: 14v26, 14v35, 26v35
3v3s: Players are seeded 1-6 based on total points (Rounds 1+2).
5 Games on top 5 voted templates:
123v456 (template #1), 145v236 (#2), 156v234 (#3), 134v256 (#4), 126v345 (#5)
Points: 1 point per win.
Tiebreakers: 3v3 point results > 2v2 point results > Global head to head results > 3v3 head to head results


SEEDING
4 Leader Nations: 3 player spots
5 Outsider Nations: 2 player spots
6 Pursuant Nations: 1 spot
8 spots from qualifications

The nation rank will be evaluated based on the performance of the 3 last seasons (need some objective way to decide this for the first one: suggestions?).

Google sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19J3k1UaoTlO8gECi2nPi8bewK4VlvYgClxRR90GpmHg/edit?usp=sharing

Edited 11/8/2016 16:44:07
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/6/2016 15:40:24

Phaeril 
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For the first season:

Player spots
- I need to know who's in ? (top players)
- I need a way to discriminate a temporary nation based ranking to select 4 leader nations and 5 outsiders.
- The 6 spots from pursuant nations will be assigned to 6 top players from different nationality (not from leader or outsider nations)
- 8 other spots will be assigned from qualification tournaments.

Maybe according to last major league results. Ex:
- last Champion's League (Lolowut): https://www.warlight.net/Forum/21421-warlight-champions-league-rulestemplates
- NationCup ? (need a link please)
- Clan League Performances ?
- Existing major and reliable league for the nation (as for French)
- suggestions ???

Templates
- Will be decided based on the Clan League voted results (considering this has been voted by top players from A clans, in a fair way).

Edited 5/6/2016 15:47:28
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/7/2016 10:33:58


Pushover 
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Bumping this, cause this looks pretty bitchin'. I would be interested myself if this gets enough interest and I don't suck more than other potential participants :P

I think templates should either have a separate vote or be randomly decided, according to Gui's original method.

I like the idea of qualification tournaments except that it could delay start of the meat of the league.

Other leagues to consider in addition to the ones you mention:
peak ladder performances and seasonal ladder finishes
promotion/relegation leagues: medium earth, small earth, or what have you.
World Series of Warlight season 2, linked here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rh2GN43b20I9lYKFgbXD8Xx63SpZlSEzowIii7jgJls/pub?outpu (use tabs to navigate to season 2 standings)

at a last resort you could use a panel to pick and choose top players, but this idea is my least favorite.

gui seemed to get a very talented list of players just from ladder results.
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/8/2016 02:08:34


Master Turtle 
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I would participate :)
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/8/2016 02:29:31


TBest 
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Seeding by nations oO

Well, I will find some Nations Cup links for you :D
1st NC
http://warlite.wikia.com/wiki/Nations_Cup_2012 (Qualefying)
http://warlite.wikia.com/wiki/Nations_Cup_2012_Playoffs (ROund of 16)

2nd Nations Cup

http://challonge.com/2ndnc (R of 16, never finished)

Nations cup is kinda outdated tbh, but still your best option I think.

Edited 5/8/2016 02:29:47
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/8/2016 10:16:31


master of desaster 
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I'd participate too
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/8/2016 10:23:45


Onoma94
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Wow... there is an unofficial Warlight wiki!?
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/8/2016 10:25:34

Quicksand
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why not
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/8/2016 11:07:21


hedja 
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I'm in
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/8/2016 12:26:32

AI
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I'm in
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/9/2016 10:41:12

Phaeril 
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For this first season, I need to get some background to evaluated an approximative ranking of countries. This need to show the current level and not the overall warlight History.


First, I will determined the spots for the leader nations and outsiders (respectively 3 and 2 players) to ask them to send players for the league: 22 spots.

Then, I will choice 6 top-players, each from different countries, and not from a top-9 nation to be automatically qualified.

After that, I will run some qualification tournaments in different templates which allow participation for the 8 remaining spots. Every players from any nation could participate (even if one of the top), but players will need to respect some prerequis to participate (minimum level to avoid to huge and useless tournament).


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For the nation ranking, I checked nation cups and it's and only one tournament finished... in 2012. Furthermore, some nations get merged, and others sent more than one team. There is some information to consider, but it's really not enough.

I will take into account for peak ladder performances (if someone could help me...).

I will also based my choice on major warlight leagues:
- Clan League (the two past seasons, A and B, if possible. I haven't CL5)
- promotion/relegation leagues (https://www.warlight.net/Forum/130085-promotionrelegation-league-season-18)
- lolowut Champion's league (three years ago however... I need a link of the results please)

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For the 6 top players, I will take my choice on this list of interested top players (from Gui + already interested top players from this topic). If another top players would like to participated, please sign here as soon as possible. I will send a mail to the 6 players, and if I didn't get an answer after one week, I will give the spot to another top player.

(not ordered list)

Strategos
Phaeril
Master of the Dead
Master of Desaster 
Buns157
USABiches
Krzychu
Arkanton
Master Turtle
Ragnarok
Beren-apex
MisterT
JV
Wazz
Timon92
Ze
Sultan Kasmitow
Hedja
125ch209
Oh Noes
Braak
Mirror
Master Miyagi
Quicksand
Pushover
Don

Edited 5/9/2016 15:30:41
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/9/2016 11:26:08


Don [ Ω ]
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Iwould join too.... if space
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/9/2016 11:52:51


PanagiotisTheGreekFreak
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I would like to join too.
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/10/2016 16:00:35

Phaeril 
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So I got a ranking according to some statistics based on peak ladder, Nation Cup, Clan League (s6&7: %win top20-A, top10-B), Promotion/Relegation League (s16-18: A), WSOW (s1&2: top8), 20 League (last season, 20A) and Infinity League (overall Top10).

Top4 countries: (3 spots each)
- USA
- Poland
- Germany
- France

The 5 Outsiders: (2 spots each)
- Netherlands
- England
- Italy
- Israel
- Brasil

These statistics are not perfect, but there is a great gap between 4th and 5th place, and a significative one between 9th and 10th.

I will make a list of 22 top players from these countries for the first season. If there is some problems to find them, I will ask for players from the following countries (Switzerland, New-Zealand, Norway, Taiwan, Lithuania)

When this will be done, I will invite 6 top players, and then launch 4 qualification tournaments for the 8 remaining spots (a spot for the two first places of each).

People that ask me there will be invited. If there is too many people, I will select according some prerequis those that could play these tournaments.

Edited 5/10/2016 16:01:24
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/10/2016 17:19:26


Nogals
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Im in
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/10/2016 17:33:42


iNsAnE
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im in
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/10/2016 17:41:21


{Shredtail2} 
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Hi nice bumming off my idea :)
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/10/2016 17:54:43


Buns157 
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But then again, looks like Phaeril will actually follow through with it :)
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/10/2016 17:59:49

Phaeril 
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Hum... what was your idea ? A link ? I didn't see. I follow an idea of Gui (I cited my sources) where I introduced a completely different strategy of seeding (I thought this was new), and small changes in the tournaments.

Edited 5/10/2016 19:48:43
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/10/2016 18:44:08


USA Biches
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I will play
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/10/2016 23:34:47


{Shredtail2} 
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I'm booting the whole thing back up, updated the lists and everything, England prequals start in 2.5 hours.
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/11/2016 08:58:21

Phaeril 
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What are you talking about ? Warlight World Cup ? This League is not like your Warlight World Cup.

Your idea is good but this one is more a Champions League than a FIFA World Cup. Most of the seeds are given by nation spots but all players will play for themself.

Furthermore, this league has vocation to be regular and the spot awarding could change according the ranking of the country.

In conclusion, the only common thing with your Cup is the word "nation" or "country", even if it is not used in the same way.

Edited 5/11/2016 09:06:22
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/11/2016 09:26:19


TBest 
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Dunno where you got your list of top playes, but I clerly should be no there! (Just Kidding, well not completely but mostly kidding)

Also I presume you are using flags? to determine country for players. Well if you had a sharp eye you spotted me for Norway in Nations Cup, and that is the country I will represent here too :D

So if Norway gets a spot from Seedig I would like that to represent!
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/11/2016 10:03:42

Phaeril 
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Good to know TBest. Yes I'm using flag so I can make some mistakes. I know you are from Norway now.

Norway have had very good performances in NationCup so a player could be invited. In all cases, there will be qualifiers.
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/11/2016 11:43:25


Hades
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I'm in if theres room
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/11/2016 20:37:48


Volcanoob 
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why the fuck am i not on the list common MAN wtf!
"troll"

Edited 5/11/2016 20:38:17
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/12/2016 14:17:08

Phaeril 
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You will be invited to the qualifiers.
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/12/2016 16:22:06


Sułtan Kosmitów 
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Can we have some kind of update? ;)
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/12/2016 17:34:05

Phaeril 
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There it is:

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Country seeding
Qualified players from country spots by rights that have validated their participation:
(currently 16 players)

Master of the Death(from USA)
Beren.apex (from USA)
USA Bitches (from USA)
Mike (from Poland)
Krychu (from Poland)
timon92 (from Poland)
linberson (from Germany)
Wazz (from France)
Phaeril (from France)
Nackickwind (from France)
MisterT (from Netherlands)
Farah (from Netherlands)
Buns157 (from UK)
hedja (from UK)
FlyingBender (from Italy)
Peixoto (from Brasil)

It stay two spots from Germany, two from Israel, one from Brasil that could be lost and be attribuated to invitation seeds (I expected two more answers).

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Direct invitations to the main event
Qualified players from invitation spots that have validated their participation:
(currently 3 players that not to come from a country that give spots)

Master of Disaster
Quicksand
Tbest

I'm waiting for seven answers.

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Qualifiers

Two first multi-day qualifiers of 16 (good) players will be launched soon, giving 2 spots each (finalists). A same player cannot participate at both, so I will select randomly players to go in each. (Guiroma & Battle Island V, rt ladder templates)

In the same, a third multi-day qualifier tournament of 64-128 players will be run. Everyone can participate to the third qualifier (even those that go in one of the two others). This tournament will determined two more qualified players. Vacations will not be honored for this one. (Strat 1v1 ME 0% SR)

At last, a real time qualifier will be run, giving the two last spots. Probably at the end of June. (Greece rt ladder template)

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The main event will start at the end of the qualifiers. Previsions: at end of June or at the beginning of July.

Edited 5/14/2016 00:20:34
The Warlight World Champion's League (WWCL): 5/12/2016 17:46:10


Sułtan Kosmitów 
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Thank you :)
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