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Why do folk insist on paying teachers more?: 5/14/2016 03:02:29


Жұқтыру
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I think that Eklipse and DDB are good folk to argue with everyone, they're open-minded, but not to pretensy or straight insults. Here's some more folk who I argued with.

*Imperator, I don't like arguing with for a totally different ground (seems like we misunderstand each other's points very often); he also knows that he gets pointlessly zealous, as is natural when arguing, and says sorry for it - far better than what many folk, or you can say.
*JaiBharat, looking back, maybe one of best folk to talk about American polit, despite being nationalist and a little narrow-minded (but not too much, it wasn't very noticeable). *A foe with different thoughts, Pulsey, a little pretentious and pretty narrow-minded, but out of all the folk who disagreed with his thoughts on Trump, I, despite being a bit unjust, was the only one who he actually said was ok, contrasted to all the other arguers. *GeneralPE, say what you want, but he's not really zealous, I doubt he would have much bad to say about me as an arguer.
*Death, though never truly argued, I said some pretty arguable and mean and injust things - for example, when he posted that Polish stereotypes map with Belarus, and had something about Belarus and Ukraine should go back to Poland, I zealously criticised him for being a Polish irredentist and nationalist. He explained he wasn't, and was very good-hearted about the thing, and he's definitely a fellow in my games to invite, though rarely, since he's cutting down MD games. He used to think from rumours that I was a very mean and unenjoyable fellow to talk with.
*Then there's DDJ, who despite having many disagreements and even heated arguments, said "If you don't like Xpapy.... you need to talk to him more".
*TeamGuns, a socialist (sorry, middle-left*) who used to be pretty pretentious like you in arguments, but stopped, and ever since then, he's a fine enough fellow to argue with, he righted his mistakes, on invite list.
*OxTheArtist, though no true arguments since the great Scotland debate of 2015 (in which I was injust, and he was more forgiving for that than I would be), some small arguments that resolved quickly from open-mindedness.
*japan97, though we don't agree, I'm a bit more arrogant, but otherwise, fine enough, we don't really know each other, but I can attest that he's a good arguer who will only wield fire to fight fire (like on this thread).
*Cata Cauda. I stay calm, he stays calm, we argue nicely, trade some outlooks.
*knyte, though strongly hates what I stand for and is very confident (cocky), is likeable enough, I think he could vouch that I'm a likeable enough arguer behind what I argue.

Now, I definitely know I have haters, probably since I'm a rabid, foaming-at-mouth misogynist and racist and fascist. So let me see the ones you've listed.

*Andrés, ask him the specific ground that he blacklisted me. It's pretty bigoted.
*Pablo García, what? No problems there, we chat, we disagree, we even get exasperated, but we keep calm. 4/5 his friends hate me, though.
*chuck norris, what? No problem there, we definitely disagree on many issues, but we keep calm, I think he could say I'm a likeable arguer.
*most of CORP. I've not talked to most of CORP, I don't recognise most names. Besides yourself, name a few CORP haters of me.
*mail chats? Is Eklipse and Fleecemaster hated by Belgian, too, for not being invited to them? We just don't really like the nonsense, or I don't, and don't participate, and I just keep my post for weightier things, not winking all the time.

Now, let me suggest folk who actually hate me. Here's a gamish game. https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9453691

Don't load the chat, it will crash your computer. Anyhow, this is how the rumour that I'm racist and womanhater got started. I heard someone say that blackskin Africans are more violent from naturally higher melanonin levels in blood -> I say this -> Everyone goes mad, calls me racist -> I take this back, once disproven -> I'm still a racist. Anyhow, bunch of leftists here, you can message some of them, they'll tell you tales of how I advocate for genocide of all Africans or something.

how boring it can be to argue for some stupid things (spelling of Galiza and stupid arguments for hours as a good example


I didn't actually find it boring, seman is interesting enough, but more torturing you and your insistence on Galicia, to the point of not even accepting that Galiza is valid, too (which it is...).

we can have decent conversations together too


Not since before you "retired" have you been decent.
Why do folk insist on paying teachers more?: 5/14/2016 04:07:42


Genghis 
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What is this cancer?
Why do folk insist on paying teachers more?: 5/14/2016 04:23:18


What is this cancer?
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It appears to be a thread about teaching cancer master.
Why do folk insist on paying teachers more?: 5/14/2016 09:59:47


adrian waco
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can u guys stfu and go on topic

we r talking about wages and teachers

should they b paid higher??

ya why not u can get in a lot of high quality teach who wouldnt normally teach
Why do folk insist on paying teachers more?: 5/14/2016 12:17:34


Major General Smedley Butler
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Well, there's also the problem of the US not really having the money. The US mostly prints money, extorts it or borrows it, while not folk are ok with this, remember, the US has a huge debt from this crap.
Why do folk insist on paying teachers more?: 5/14/2016 12:53:52


Angry Koala
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If I may tell your own major flaws: You tend to take things at face value without any hindsight, get butthurt for nothing, and take it too seriously, whereas it is only a forum where random people share their opinions, somebody like me can be against your views, we can argue about things calmly between civilized people, instead of what you just did yesterday, constantly denigrating what people say arrogantly, without any actual positive approachs like helping others how to fix their "flaws", if even such flaws actually exist (since most of what you claimed was wrong as I easily proved earlier).

Again Juq curb your "virtual" narcissism (people can be really different IRL): you were again answering yourself alone what people think about you, without actually having their own opinion, you speak on their behalf, so tell me how is it relevant?

And I never said at all you had only flaws, and I do not know who said you were racist or nationalist but this is totally wrong about you.

Edited 5/14/2016 12:55:45
Why do folk insist on paying teachers more?: 5/14/2016 12:54:24


Angry Koala
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Major, what do you think about teachers working in private schools?
Why do folk insist on paying teachers more?: 5/14/2016 13:26:39


Major General Smedley Butler
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If they suck at their job, it's the consumers problem, if they're good at it, it's the consumers benefit.

Education before mandatory education in America was more a cheap thing where someone in the community who was literate and/or could do math would teach it to a son, daughter, or other family member, the family member would teach it to others , and it went on.

This was cheaper and actually a bit more effective, because unless the government kept you from learning (if you were a slave), you would usually be able to learn for either free or for a cheap fee.

Remember, many states had literacy rates above what they are now, and comprehension was through the roof. Pretty much everyone would read something, whether it would be a novel or political manifesto.
Why do folk insist on paying teachers more?: 5/14/2016 20:15:29


Angry Koala
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what are the actual statistics about children studying in private schools in the US?

Edited 5/14/2016 20:20:55
Why do folk insist on paying teachers more?: 5/14/2016 22:38:49


adrian waco
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Well, there's also the problem of the US not really having the money. The US mostly prints money, extorts it or borrows it, while not folk are ok with this, remember, the US has a huge debt from this crap.


we got the money. lots of it. we are da ruler of world. most of the debt is owed to US citizens. debt isnt how it works with u and me. US debt has always paid the debts like da lannisters. ppl like US debt because it is a safe investment

its a benchmark. considered the nearest thing to risk free

the usa doesnt borrow money cus it need it. ppl borrow money cus they want

da world is ok with this system. there r no other countries that r safe enough. russia? ya no. china? ya no. europe? look at eu. uk? has no intrest. any one from africa? lolno. Middle east? lolno
south america? ya no. australia? no interest

wats left is the USA.

but ofc u wouldnt know that. u dont know the first thing about econ 101

Edited 5/14/2016 22:49:22
Why do folk insist on paying teachers more?: 5/14/2016 23:03:07


Жұқтыру
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constantly denigrating what people say arrogantly, without any actual positive approachs like helping others how to fix their "flaws", if even such flaws actually exist


This never happened - I was just pointing out the pile of hostility on this thread (too much). Smedley would probably agree with my judgements here, and so would most other folk.

(since most of what you claimed was wrong as I easily proved earlier).


nothing proven (probably not easily, either).
Why do folk insist on paying teachers more?: 5/14/2016 23:05:41


adrian waco
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stop going off topic and debate the issues jesus fuckin christ
Why do folk insist on paying teachers more?: 5/14/2016 23:16:03


Жұқтыру
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don't say the name of j.c. in vain
Why do folk insist on paying teachers more?: 5/14/2016 23:16:58


adrian waco
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it a figure of speech ya
Why do folk insist on paying teachers more?: 5/14/2016 23:28:52


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