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If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 01:49:01


Major General Smedley Butler
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Why don't anti-gun folk propose totally dismantling the military and taking away guns from police too?
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 01:57:10


DanWL
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How would countries protect themselves from law breakers and terrorists from the outside world?
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 01:59:45


adrian waco
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what kind of retarded logic is this

guns are bad when you have mentally unstable individuals who get guns easily and shoot ppl up

we obviously trust and consent to police/military having guns

we dont want lunatics to hold and shoot ppl randomly
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 02:01:40


Major General Smedley Butler
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Many places have police without guns, and the US didn't even have police before 1830 (they were founded for slave catching).

The US has not been challenged conventionally for a long while, and the military doesn't stop terrorism.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 02:02:44


adrian waco
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we consent to police therefore they exist
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 02:02:55


Major General Smedley Butler
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The government has killed around 50 Million folk since WW2, supporting them is completely psychopathic.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 02:03:16


Cata Cauda 
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I personally see no problem with the Police and Military having guns. I mean its their job to have them. They also know how to use them properly and when. I also see no problem with civilins having guns, however they should be harder to obtain than in MERICA.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 02:04:51


Жұқтыру
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You live in a country that still has slavery, and you support it, so I don't know what weight your thought holds here.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 02:05:32


adrian waco
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The government has killed around 50 Million folk since WW2, supporting them is completely psychopathic.


cops keep me safe. they just caught a robber of a store that is just right across my block

wats psychopathic is advocating for anarchy when no one wants your stupid fucking system

we as a society consented to creating a government that does stuff for us. we also consented to having a group of ppl to maintain law and order. these r called cops

what we dont consent to however are ppl who want anarchy

so knock it off and stop spouting shit that no one wants

Edited 5/17/2016 02:10:14
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 02:14:39


Major General Smedley Butler
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You live in a country that still has slavery, and you support it, so I don't know what weight your thought holds here.

Who was that to?

Cata, denying that the US government is a killing machine that is responsible for millions of deaths while supporting giving them huge surpluses of armored vehicles, jet planes, and radioactive missiles , and holding the innocent folk to a moral standard that says that they are extremely dangerous and must be disarmed , is a extremely hypocritical position that has monstrous consequences.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 02:15:39


adrian waco
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can u stop ignoring me u twat

or do you like ignoring the valid points i make

how do you address the fact that no one wants your anarchy?
and that people want cops to keep them safe?
and that people want government?

Edited 5/17/2016 02:16:32
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 02:18:45


Жұқтыру
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Did you hear a breeze on the wind?

Anyhow, comment was to Cata Cauda, with draft in Austria.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 02:27:17

[wolf]japan77
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I'm opposed to people having guns on the ground that they aren't really necessary, same statement for police, I do think the police may need something like a handgun, but that should be the limit, which is identical to my stance on people owning guns for self defense, it should be limited to a handgun. The military is another issue, however. The purpose of the military is to fight other militaries over squabbles that failed to be resolved diplomatically. While I'm all for reducing military budgets, and taking a pacifist stance in global affairs, in the rare chance that the US actually gets attacked, such as in ww2, I do support having a small army with a large reserve corps that can be quickly mobilized for war. This means the military would retain its weapons, however obviously it should not be used against citizens of the state.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 02:30:16


Жұқтыру
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When I was little, I came up with an answer to end all world bloodshed: just settle your disputes with a game of rocks-papers-scissors. You can even do it by population, and draft folk into it, too, you can have rock platoons and scissor spies and paper psychologic warfare esquadrons, but noone listened.

ff to 2016, noone still listens to my great answer for world peace.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 02:44:08


adrian waco
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some courts do it to resolve minor disputes
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 03:37:06


Cata Cauda 
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Anyhow, comment was to Cata Cauda, with draft in Austria.

If you mean with "Draft" Conscription, then I can tell you that nearly no one in my friendcycle and people I know are against it. We are a neutral country, both politically and military and proud of it, so incase of nasty warmongers we need to save our asses on our own.
We dont see it as "Slavery" as you might do. More as sign of independence.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 03:42:10


Жұқтыру
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We are a neutral country, both politically and military and proud of it, so incase of nasty warmongers we need to save our asses on our own.


Yeah, I hear Germany and Slovenia were planning on a joint military invasion, but I think the fearsome Austrian military forces scarred them off.

We dont see it as "Slavery" as you might do. More as sign of independence.


No, it's slavery. It's dependence and the theode enforcing their will on you in the worst way, through making you serve for them and kill innocent folk in Afghanistan.

How is it not slavery that, whether you want to or not, you are given a job to do and if you don't do it, you'll be gaoled?
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 03:53:54


Major General Smedley Butler
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Draft is most definitely slavery, you are forcing the young to kill and die , and labor away for you against their will. It is a sickening thing, if you're in support of the draft, why don't you go where you want to send folk and fight yourself. You won't be missed when you return, torn asunder.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 03:56:54


Major General Smedley Butler
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Also Austria isn't that independent, remember, they're a NATO allied country and help occupy with them.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 03:57:47


Cata Cauda 
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Draft is most definitely slavery, you are forcing the young to kill and die , and labor away for you against their will. It is a sickening thing, if you're in support of the draft, why don't you go where you want to send folk and fight yourself. You won't be missed when you return, torn asunder.

Once I finished school I will go through the "slavery" anyway. Lets see if I am still alive in a year or so.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:05:10


Major General Smedley Butler
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How is it not slavery? Is it voluntary? No. It's forced labor at best, forced killing and dying at worst.

Was the forced labor inflicted on African-Americans under your definition, slavery? No

Were folk captured by the Athenians and sold to other folk for labor, slaves, under your definition? No

Were women kidnapped by the Turkish Sultan's agents and forced into sex, slaves, under your definition? No
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:07:36


Cata Cauda 
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Incase you dont know, if one refuses to go to the military you can alternatevly do "Civil Service" in Austria. Thats basically working for the ambulance.
Ps.: You get paid for it.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:10:27


Major General Smedley Butler
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So you get to choose your forced labor? Also , so what if you get paid? "Sorry we had you kill someone, made you see your friends die, gave you poisoning, and stole years of your life away, but here's some money."
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:12:14


Cata Cauda 
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I doubt as conscripted you have to kill people....
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:15:52


Major General Smedley Butler
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con·scrip·tion
kənˈskripSH(ə)n/
noun
compulsory enlistment for state service, typically into the armed forces.

The armed forces don't go around planting flowers, that's what I can tell you, little Austrian patriot.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:16:55


Cata Cauda 
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Currently Austria isnt really fighting any (major) wars... so we send professional soldiers instead of unexperienced conscripted.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:19:26


Major General Smedley Butler
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So you have a draft for what exactly then? It's not beneficial to the folk of the country, it's still forced labor if not forced murder, and Austria isn't going to be invaded by anyone.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:22:46


Cata Cauda 
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Why do you even care then? There are much closer countries to you with conscription. Like Mexico (sorry Trump), Russia or China.
The sole purpose of conscription in Austria is to teach every man how to operate a weapon and the basic understanding of military tactics incase of a national crysis.
Unlike you warmongering America we arent killing people just for the lulz.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 04:29:59


Major General Smedley Butler
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Why do I care? Because evil ideas like conscription made the twentieth century a hellscape. Millions of folk were forced into fighting and millions were killed, needlessly and in the name of collective defense. And I don't give a care about what tax farm a human is from, I care about what they think, because what folk think will change the world regardless of where they're from, Mexico or Austria. And currently, this collectivism threatens to turn the twenty first century into yet again another battlefield with millions dead. Oh wait, it already has.
If guns are bad: 5/17/2016 09:30:33


adrian waco
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the draft works out for austria

the ppl consented to having a draft system

leave them alone

and stop ignoring me u twat
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