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european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 08:04:38


chuck norris
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i am making a map of europe if all indepedence movements have their way, its gonna have a shitload of territories, this is the map im basing it off of: http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/attachments/fractured-europe-map-png.56289/
ill post the link here when im further in, i just posted this to make sure that nobody starts the same map at the same time as me again(looks at mudderducker and xxomegaxx)
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 08:27:36


Angry Koala
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good idea :P

but something unclear to me, I do not get most of the territories division, particularly in Spain, this map is highly inaccurate.
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 08:40:36


chuck norris
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do you mean the countries or the actual territories?

Edited 5/23/2016 08:49:32
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 09:00:02


Angry Koala
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well I would like a legend to understand how territories have been divided, for example in Spain I do not get what are the "existing" independent movements, besides Catalonia, Euskal Herria and Galicia.

Edited 5/23/2016 09:02:38
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 09:01:37


Angry Koala
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european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 09:07:55


chuck norris
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you have to remember this isnt only the big independence movements but anywhere whjere there is fringe group wanting independecne for a certain region which there is in practically all of spain
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 09:15:31


Sai Kurogetsu
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Looks cool, I would play on this map! :D

Is that yellow thing in Czech Republic supposed to be Czech Silesia? If so, it probably should be merged with the blue part of Silesia in Southern Poland, because that's the same thing. Silesia is politically split between 3 countries these days: Poland, Czech Republic and Germany, but we still call ourselves Silesians and use our language unofficially, no matter what the borders are.
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 09:17:39


chuck norris
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yeah the yellow thing is czech silesia and ok ill merege it :)
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 09:40:57


Angry Koala
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yeah but still, I do not get what is the region that surrounds the Basque country comprising Navarre (that should actually be merged with the other Basque provinces), Cantabria and Rioja?
I mean if there was some explanations and legends in your map I could perhaps understand better why it is divided that way.
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 09:43:42


Angry Koala
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and if we count all the regions of Spain that have some "identity" (like Léon or Aragon), why is France not having Occitania divided into Gascony, Provence and Languedoc at the very least? Since these regions are very different actually.

If you need help in the development of this map I could help you (I am using Inkscape too), if you want to do a collaborative work.
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 09:56:28


chuck norris
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the country composing navarre cantabria and rioja is whats left os spain along with madrid and extremadura, if you want i could put that region as part of basque country, idk how to do a collaborative work but i would be more than happy to do it, it would take some of the work load of me :), just tell mw how to do it, the hardest part will probably be naming the territories and making and naming the bonuses as i dont think the divisions are political divisions

Edited 5/23/2016 10:00:47
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 10:00:07


Angry Koala
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well actually i tried once to do a collaborative work with someone making a GOT map but it was a time when I went inactive, and himself wasn't very active either.

We just need a platform where we can share the svg files of this map, i will create a mail chat to discuss how that could work.
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 10:01:01


chuck norris
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ok :)
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 11:07:40


{Shredtail2}
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As for the first map, I've seen it before, and the base map with the countries colored in has some inaccuracies, i. e. the border of Belarus and Russia, and Bulgaria and Serbia. Those are the ones I can remember off the top of my head. I recommend going with the map Koala posted, and finding a way to overlay a map with borders on it.
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 13:19:07


[ESP] csr8 ☩
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Spanish regions are just fine. Basque independentists like koala would like all world map to be with the colour of his region xd but the truth is they are a very small community with small independentist movement and phew extension that could be even smaller than the actual basque region.
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 13:37:37


Angry Koala
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crs8 el Neofranquista, please stay relevant to the topic, this map is about European independence movements, so we have to show places where there are indeed some independence movements, and neglecting their existence is plain stupid.

And tell me more precisely how it could be smaller than the actual Basque country? Even Navarre region that used to be more pro-Spanish is currently led by a coalition of Abertzale (pro-Basque) parties, the capital of Navarre, Pamplona since last year is also led by Joseba Asiron, a mayor part of EH Bildu, a pro-independence party even more radical than PNV (Basque National party) and Geroa Bai (Navarrese equivalent), 2 parties that are only in favor of a greater autonomy.

Edited 5/23/2016 13:49:29
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 14:55:40


Жұқтыру
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To be frank, this map is pretty wrong.

Doesn't show actually independent countries like Abkhazia or Ossetia or Artsakh, but shows Kaliningrad independence movement (hardly any)?
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 15:19:13


zxctycxz 
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I'm not sure about England either, the main independence movement is of Northumbria, not... whatever that red thing is.
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 17:08:51


Angry Koala
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we are going to need feedbacks definitely since that map has many wrong things, thanks Juq and ZX for those informations already :)
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 17:12:19


Belgian Gentleman
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that map says that there are independence movements in Brussels x)
best joke ever.

Edited 5/23/2016 17:12:35
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 17:14:42


Жұқтыру
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european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 18:12:33


Angry Koala
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european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 19:38:27


chuck norris
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I was going to use that map but it doestn have regions. according to the creator of the map it has all the independwnce movements in europe in wikipedua
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 20:01:37


Belgian Gentleman
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Spain is a mess of independence movements that's for sure
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 20:30:37


Съмрьть
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the first map is definately not representing the independence movements in europe,a few territories are comprising land mass from a few countries,which is simply not true,however if it is..its very falsely depicts,tho the second link by Angry Koala,represents it very precisely
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 21:05:33


Stirax
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First of all hi everyone!
Secondly as a Swiss guy living in the italian part of Switzerland I can assure you that the indipendence mouvment represented for my country are compleately wrong in the wikipedia page and on your first map as well. Probabely at the moment Switzerland is one of the most united nation in Europe, and at the moment there are no indedist mouvement at all (if you find one, is very probably a joke of some funny guys).
Nevertheless the map looks very interesting, hope you'll complete it soon!
(sorry for the not perfect english)

by the way, the german page looks way more reliable than the english one
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_derzeitiger_Sezessionsbestrebungen_in_Europa

Edited 5/23/2016 21:12:28
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 21:13:46


Belgian Gentleman
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european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 21:29:47


Stirax
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What did you mean by clear things up?


Insubria is the geographical region around Lake of Lugano comprending the Swiss canton of Ticino and the Italian provinces of Varese, Como, Cusio-Verbano-Ossola, but the fact this region is splitted between the two coutries, it doesn't implies that there are independence mouvement. There some there collaboration between the political subdivision mentioned before, but certainly no separatist ideas- Groups like Domà Nuch are nothing more than jokes, people that loves to immaginate the unreal, but I think that quite nobody knows or cares about them.
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 21:51:32


Belgian Gentleman
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Clearing things up means to solve or to explain a problem.

I have few knowledge about the region but I think the region wants to gain greater autonomy. I can't say very much about it but maybe (I think) that there are also some people who want to have independence? The creation of Movimento degli Indipendenti Insubrici maybe?
european independence movements map: 5/23/2016 21:54:56


[ESP] Pablo García
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Hey, first of all, you might want to change "independentist movements" to "nacionalist movements", as many of those just want recognition for their "nation".

Also, as the Spanish I am, I know there are many nationalist movements inside (many are just regionalist, but we will pass them anyway). However, they don't really meet with your first uploaded map, that one is really imprecise and... well, weird. I consider this one (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Active_separatist_movements_in_Europe.png) to be the most realistic of all.
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