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Boss Grew in Power!: 5/26/2016 02:39:06


Tyrion
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I now know that a boss is not the same as a commander. If a boss dies, it does NOT cause his team to surrender. Got it. (Is this explained anywhere?)

I ALSO now know that bosses can grow in power, and his little picture changes as he does.

http://s33.postimg.org/s75iojx0v/Grr.jpg

What I don't know is, how can I possibly know how strong he is? Is this explained anywhere?

On the single player 'Someone stole my oil' level, he grew at the end of Turn 12, then at the beginning of Turn 18, as you see in the image.

Killed all 205 of my attacking armies. :-(
Boss Grew in Power!: 5/26/2016 02:47:52


TBest 
Level 60
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Boss power never goes up, only armies.
Boss Grew in Power!: 5/26/2016 02:48:53


TBest 
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Tyrion's img.
No clue why they are different. Send a bug report?
Boss Grew in Power!: 5/26/2016 03:01:10


Perrin3088 
Level 49
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I think they need a new word for the zerg stack, because they use boss multiple times later on, and they function fundamentally less

if memory serves, the 2nd boss is at 60 or 100 pre turn 18, and seems to stay at 300 after that..
but I only played it once, so had no need to remember the numbers after that, lol
Boss Grew in Power!: 5/26/2016 03:02:22


Tyrion
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Wait, on 'Someone stole my oil' how much power does he start with? It's never shown for me and in a previous attempt, he died attacking a 60ish stack of mine.

Also, I've already reported and chatted with Fizzer about a visibility issue with the boss. Sometimes he disappears and then reappears at the end of the turn or when I go back in the history. I didn't even know that I wasn't seeing something that I should be.

P.S. Thanks for posting the image for me.
Boss Grew in Power!: 5/26/2016 03:02:53


Perrin3088 
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if memory serves the boss clones were 80 man stacks.. I only remember that because I had to use 115's defensively and 134's offensively, not counting for the rare extra army
Boss Grew in Power!: 5/26/2016 03:04:48


Perrin3088 
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it never shows you the boss's power, you have to figure it out from their attacks.. if you put a stack and he attacks it and does 60 armies damage, then 60/0.6= 100, he has 100 power
Boss Grew in Power!: 5/26/2016 03:05:25


Perrin3088 
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I don't know his starting power on oil, because I didn't have enough armies around him to not 1 shot until after he already grew
Boss Grew in Power!: 5/26/2016 03:10:36


Tyrion
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Okay, so the boss in WW 2320 DOES show power, but the boss in Someone SMO does NOT. Correct?

I haven't seen these boss clones, yet, do they come at a later level?

Edited 5/26/2016 03:11:45
Boss Grew in Power!: 5/26/2016 03:16:53


TBest 
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Sooo, ther is more then one type of Boss?

But they are both/all called Boss. Nice!

Edited 5/26/2016 03:18:02
Boss Grew in Power!: 5/26/2016 03:28:44


Perrin3088 
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yeah, icr which and i am in a map atm so dont want to go out and look in case
Boss Grew in Power!: 5/26/2016 03:31:36


Perrin3088 
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actually, if I still have a record held, then that's the one with clone boss'
Boss Grew in Power!: 5/26/2016 04:02:03

XDitto
Level 47
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I think we really need an explanation of how the boss works. It wouldn't make sense to play in a strategy game without even knowing what rules the opponent has to abide by.

Edited 5/26/2016 04:02:17
Boss Grew in Power!: 5/26/2016 07:49:08


Perrin3088 
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I just played better to give twice before I realized I had 2 starting spots.. -_-
Boss Grew in Power!: 5/27/2016 20:28:25

M. Poireau 
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I can vouch that the boss is worth 60 at some point.

At the beginning, he is at least worth 20, but I can't say for sure beyond that. On turn 12, he grows in power. I can deduce that he is worth 60 armies at this point.

On turn 17, he grows in power again (unfortunate for me, because I attacked with 102 armies, thinking I had him, but instead lost all 102). At that point he appears to be worth 300. (But keep in mind that he tends to deploy a few armies, as well. I foolishly attacked with 510, thinking I would kill him, but he deployed enough armies to survive the attack, which really ruined my day.)
Boss Grew in Power!: 5/27/2016 20:31:17

M. Poireau 
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I agree, however, that some explanation of how he works is necessary.

For starters, the "old" boss (in World War 2320) can be hurt. This one, it appears, cannot.

If we're not supposed to know, that should be mentioned in the scenario somewhere (a la "Good luck figuring it out! It's a puzzle for you to solve").
Boss Grew in Power!: 5/28/2016 04:46:55


Perrin3088 
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Poireau,

hmm.. I can see the confusion..
although I found it to be rather intuitive, the ww2320 showed the number, so it showed that it can be wittled down.. the other bosses don't show a number, so it feels intuitive to believe it would work similar to a commander.
Boss Grew in Power!: 6/24/2016 00:04:33

Numberhawk44
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I've had the same problem, actually. I throw stacks of 200-300 at him, but his counter never seems to go down. It just stays at 300 no matter what. I've chased him around the entire map a few times now and no change. Has anyone figured this out? Is it a bug or something?
Boss Grew in Power!: 6/24/2016 00:15:11

iamtaller
Level 52
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There are four types of bosses. I have tested a little bit in the single player, so I'll copy-paste my comment from another thread here about them. Boss 1 is the first type of boss you see in the campaign; I haven't reached the other levels to know when you meet the other bosses though.

For the bosses, from my testing I do have some information on them, I believe. (When I say 'several' in this, I mean somewhere 5-10)

Boss 1: 400 health, as they lose health they also lose strength. Every several turns they will spawn a bunch of armies on their space after other deployments, starting with 11, then 36, then presumedly more.

Boss 2: Starts with 20 health. Every several turns they will increase in strength, going to 60, then 300. These cannot lose health; if they are not killed they will remain at their full strength, making them quite hard to beat once they are at 300. These transformations happen on turn 11 and 14.

Boss 3: Starts with 100 health, when they die they spawn four clones with 90 health. When those die they spawn clones with 80 health. (I forget how many 80 health clones spawn per each; though I think its four.) I have not tested it, however, I believe that they do not lose health similar to Boss 2.

Boss 4: Starts with 400 health, they also lose army-killing power as their health goes down .Every several turns a random territory will turn into armies belonging to the player that owns this.
Boss Grew in Power!: 6/24/2016 00:16:33


Richard Sharpe 
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Not a bug. There are two types of bosses. One has a static strength displayed over his head while the other had a number that changes. If the number never decreases then he is a standard commander that regenerates every turn. If it steadily decreases then he can be whittled down over time.

For a boss with 300 that doesn't reduce you need to attack with at least 500 armies (300/.6) plus however many armies are needed to kill the normal armies with him. Attacking with anything smaller is just a waste of armies since he regenerates
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