Billy, you yourself claimed that he isn't doing it simply to stall, since you stated how he's been doing it since turn 1.

and my response to the people that proposed making the boot time 1 day..
if they were to do that, many people would be forced to leave the ladder, which would make the ladder much less a test of skill.

When I used to play, I had 15-30 games up at a time, and despite being online every day, I only tended to do the ones I had up at 1 1/2-2 days simply because I didn't have time to run through every game every day...
although, if I did have time, and/or fewer games have proced, I would do earlier games.

I know that stallers exist, and there have been propositions as to how to fix it since the ladder was in in it's infancy, but most solutions punish the less active players.
the real time ladder was sort of a solution to the problem I think, but icr, I had already become highly inactive by that time.

I have to back up both. With shorter boot time, I would need to elave ladder compketely, because I would have no time for proper thinking because of my work schedule.

Learn to pick better entourage characters to use as your avatar.

I am Billy Walsh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-v1hOJCphI

because they've heard of your great reputation and assumes you'll beat them

Straw man. Having heard of somebody is not a requirement to know whether or not they are likely to beat you.

In summary blah blah blah.

In summary, i don't recall asking your opinion, nor do I give a fuck what you think.

^^Very touchy for someone who doesn't care about what I think.

But I'm glad you read through my post.. hopefully some of it will get through to you one day :)

for not giving a fuck what people think, you sure do respond alot.

if you didn't care what people think, you'd be more likely to post and move on, unlikely to even see the post again.

no.. your actions are more of a person that cares too much about how he is viewed.

if i'm disrespected by some inferior player who wants to take a cheap shot at me, i'm going to call him out for being the clown that he is. that's not the same as caring about whatever drivel he spewed. it's all the same. they might as well put <jealous hating here>. that's all i see.

I'm with dry-clean-only on that one, to be honest. You're just being disrespectful all the way, to anyone that doesn't agree with your views. I see polite, non-insulting arguments being given against you and you respond with stuff like :

he's a dick

talking all this shit

punishing him for behaving like a child

stupid bullshit

Spoken like a staller. Given your pathetic stats, I guess you have to find any advantage you can. Try learning how to play the game instead.

In summary, i don't recall asking your opinion, nor do I give a fuck what you think.

So, I'm just going to quote dry-clean-only in response.

So maybe before insulting me, calling me a liar and falsely accusing me of being a staller why don't you grow up and learn some manners.

That was just my input into it. Feel free to disagree.

I'm with Albert Einstein on this one

That's a strawman argument. Just because you're hated doesn't mean you are a great spirit ^^

I don't think you know what a straw man is. It means to attack an argument your opponent did not make. I have not done that.

Ironically, you just committed a straw man. I never said what you just claimed I said.

lol get over yourself Billy

I'm getting the feeling you're not actually interested in ending stalling on the 1v1 ladder and just wanna grandstand. Can't wait to see how high you're ranked on the list of 1v1 ladder stallers. You definitely stall more than your opponents do by a significant margin, and no matter what justification you offer for it- stalling is stalling.

I would love it if my haters could take this bullshit to some other thread so we can discuss ladder stalling.

I absolutely do not stall more than my opponents. I've stalled versus one person ever. Right now I have two people stalling vs me.

I absolutely do not stall more than my opponents.

You've played 82 games to completion so far on the 1v1 ladder (on this account)- 55 wins and 27 losses. Your wins have ended after an average of 10.62 turns. Your losses, interestingly, have ended at an average of 15.15 turns- taking 4.53 more turns to end than your wins.

In terms of raw time, your wins take 1 day, 20 hours, 2 minutes, and 58 seconds to end (on average). Your losses, however, take 2 days, 11 hours, 6 minutes, and 10 seconds. That's a difference of about 15 hours, 3 minutes, and 12 seconds. On average, over the course of 82 games.

If you've only ever stalled in one of those losses, then that 15 hour difference translates to stalling in one game for 405 hours, or about 17 days (so even longer than a single max-length vacation would allow). And you must've stretched that game out for an extra 122 turns, too. On average, you have a tendency to stretch out your losses significantly longer than your opponents do.

This isn't about your haters, Billy. This is about your credibility and your sidetracking of the conversation.

I'm not stalling in those games. I already explained this. I surrender much later than most people. I try to make comebacks. And when you're trying to make a comeback from a big disadvantage, that naturally will require some thought. When I'm winning I make my decisions quickly. When I'm losing and near surrender, I'll tend to think more. That's what happened with the guy I'm stalling against. I took some time to consider my move since I was about to surrender, and he started flipping out in chat insulting me, accusing me of stalling.

Billy played the ladders in 2012 and now in 2016. Back in the days he didn't always play fair (https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3519353), however almost anybody on this thread hasn't even heard of WarLight back then. Those were the days way before LAWLZ when the #Elite clan (grandfather of the gg clan) was farming wins against their alts.

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The prerequisites for an autoloose should be statistically ensure that no comeback is possible under normal conditions....bootrate of 3 days standart in the md games i would really not touch this setting!
If nothing gets changed in the ladder then everybody should stall the loses to ensure a fair gameplay!!! it would lead to some games finishing a lot later but who cares it would be fair...and thats the point...;D

Billy played the ladders in 2012 and now in 2016. Back in the days he didn't always play fair

Ya, I stalled then. That's why when I left the ladder I have a bunch of losses. I was stalling all of those.

I surrender much later than most people.

That's just the same thing any staller would say.

If you were taking longer in just winnable games, that wouldn't make a 4.53-turn difference in games where you end up losing.