I wouldn't change boot time - 3 days sounds quite good. Also i don't think messing with banked time is good solution - at least as long you can't easily check 'time to boot' from dashboard/my games(and sort by it).
About forced end condition - we have full history of all ladder games. Maybe someone(well, knyte? :D) could check how many games was won by players with 50% of enemy income/armies(boots also would be useful information here) at some point of game. If there were many such games what about - "two turns in a row with 50% of enemy income and armies" ?

If there were many such games

one would already be many enough

at least as long you can't easily check 'time to boot' from dashboard/my games(and sort by it).

Agreed. We're kind of stuck with the 3-day standard until Fizzer implements this. If you play in a larger amount of games at once, it's tricky to keep track of how much time you have left to take your turns unless they're all 3-day boot (or some standardized amount).

one would already be many enough

Well, if you know before start, that falling behind too much will end the game then it's fair. Like in speedway - lapped players are out immediately, despite you can say - 'hey, race is not over, why don't give him a chance?'

Hmm once I get all the game data saved I can get win% after falling behind certain income/army thresholds (both absolute and %-wise).

That's just the same thing any staller would say.

And some of them would be telling the truth...

Others have brought up points I hadn't even thought about. All I can tell you is that I don't stall my losses. I've been tempted but resisted the urge precisely because I knew I'd get roasted on the forum. I've created a position for myself where I am not allowed to stall or everybody will pile on insult me for it. Everybody else can stall, no problem, but not me.

I seriously doubt he has much of an interest in the topic at hand since most of his threads seem to get derailed the same way.

I absolutely do. I'd love for us to come up with a solution that fizzer implements. I can't help that my haters are attracted to my threads like flies to shit.

FYI I think your stats are great. Maybe you could build some 3rd party tool for us to use that gives advanced stats. People might even pay for it.

Maybe someone(well, knyte? :D) could check how many games was won by players with 50% of enemy income/armies(boots also would be useful information here) at some point of game.

There we go. If possible, find a position which has never been overcome. And then set it a bit worse than even that. And once somebody finds themselves in that position, count it as a loss.

So it turns out Billy probably doesn't stall. My bad.

All I can tell you is that I don't stall my losses. I've been tempted but resisted the urge precisely because I knew I'd get roasted on the forum. I've created a position for myself where I am not allowed to stall or everybody will pile on insult me for it. Everybody else can stall, no problem, but not me.

LOL. Stop stalling our game then, you have 100% lost for a lot of turns now.

Do I really need to explain this again? You are the first and so far only person I've stalled against since I restarted the ladder. And the reason has nothing to do with rankings and everything to do with punishing you for behaving like an asshat. Which you continue to do.

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behaving like an asshat. Which you continue to do.

Criticisms made towards people are almost always the ones we should make to ourselves.
This is not an exception.

You can admit you're stalling for your rank since I can't see how you're punishing me lol
If you want to punish me find a whip and hit me hard, it would be more efficient :p

Uh I read the chat and Ven definitely doesn't come across as an asshat. He asks you to surrender once (perhaps a bit accusatory on his part since he implies you're a staller) but he backs off when you say you think you've still got a chance. Next turn, he points out that the income disparity is ~5:1 and you just decide to punish him by stalling right then?

Talk about thin skin.

You can admit you're stalling for your rank

Ok, genius. Then explain why I'm doing it to you and only you. Watch my other losses. I've never done anything close to what I'm doing to you.

The fact that you keep crying about it shows the punishment is having the desired effect.

Ven definitely doesn't come across as an asshat

I take a few hours longer than normal to think, in a game I still think I have a chance to win, and for the first thing either of us said to each other he tells me to surrender and asks me if I'm trying to show everybody what a great staller I am.

That's Grade A Asshattery.

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If your income was really as low as Ven says it is, then there's nothing wrong with publicly wondering whether you're stalling and then backing off when you explain why you're sticking around.

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publicly wondering whether you're stalling

"It's not what you say, it's how you say it"

You continue to pretend he made a polite request when in fact he made an asshatilicious demand, accusation and insult.

He has continued with that tone here.

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Now that the game is over, you can all notice that I was right from the beginning to the end :
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11095211

I started to complain Billy was stalling from turn 10 because he was 100% dead,
and then he started to cry like a baby and to play the victim while I was the victim.
Look at the chat.

Now I don't know if we can sanction him for such a behavior,
but at least you'd all know now that Billy is nothing more than the most arrogant and pathetic WL player of all times.
And I had never insulted you until now Billy,
but here you completely deserved it.

Idea to fix stalling ? Remove Billy Walsh from the ladder.