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AWP World Tour: 5/30/2016 08:46:04

Dr. Walter Ego
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Along the lines of ATP World Tour (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_ATP_World_Tour) I organise a continuous, annual based tournament series, called AWP World Tour (where AWP refer to: https://www.warlight.net/Forum/156041-awp-association-warlight-professionals)

Roughly my plans:

---- the events

There will be one major tournament in every months:
  • 4 Grand Slam tourneys, meaning the top level. Will be started one on each season (Winter->January, Spring->April, Summer->July, Autumn->October).
  • 8 Masters 1000 tourneys on the rest months.
These 12 major event will be constant, but will be smaller occasional events too, parallel with them:
  • the 500 Series
  • the 250 Series

---- the format of the events

All events will have the same format:
  • Private Tournament
  • Single elimination
  • Invitation not possible by players
  • 3 day autoboot, vacation honoured
Only differences will be the sizes (and the templates of course, but about those later):
  • 128 players will be invited to the 4 Grand Slams
  • 64 players to the 8 Masters 1000 events
  • 32 players to the 500 series events
  • 16 players to the 250 series tourneys

---- the Ranking List

Similar than in the ATP World Tour: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_Rankings

A player's AWP World Tour Ranking is based on the total points he accrued in the following 18 tournaments:
  • The four Grand Slam tournaments
  • The eight Masters 1000 tournaments
  • The best six results from all 500 and 250 series

Points distribution:
	 	W 	F 	SF 	QF 	R16 	R32 	R64 	R128
Grand Slam 	2000 	1200 	720 	360 	180 	90 	45 	0
Masters 1000 	1000 	600 	360 	180 	90 	45 	0
500 Series 	500 	300 	180 	90 	45 	0
250 Series 	250 	150 	90 	45 	0 

AWP World Tour Rankings period is the immediate past 52 weeks.
It means that the ranking system calculates how many points a player earns over a 12-month period.
This 12-month period is not a calendar year but a rolling 12-month period.
When a new event starts the earned points from the previous year event will be expired (remark: the 1 year old points from 500 and 250 series events will be expired in that case too if no new event start).
The Ranking List will be updated weekly, based on the finished events plus the current minimum attainable points from the ongoing events.

---- the invitation method

The main goal of this invitation system is maintain the strongest possible fields in the tournaments (because I think that more harder opponents mean more fun in a competition)

There will be 3 possibilities to get invitations to an event:
  • Ranking list
    This is the basis, 90%+ of the participants will be invited based on the current ranking list.
  • Wild Cards
    This is for the newcomers, so they can participate despite they aren't in the ranking list or their rank is not high enough. The Wild Cards will given by the organizers, and wouldn't be higher then 10% of the participants (only exception when there are insufficient players in the ranking list)
  • Qualifiers
    Well, we will see that we need this at all :)
Invitation steps:
  • before each events, a thread will be opened here for the wild card requests (including all details of the event)
  • after 3 days, I will create the tournament, and will send X invitations to the top X players from the ranking list and send Y invitation from the Wild Card request topic (where X=90% Y=10% of the slots).
  • after 3 days, I send +10 invitations to the next top 10 players from the ranking list and +1 Wild Card invitation.
  • after 3 days, I send +10 invitations to the next top 10 players from the ranking list and +1 Wild Card invitation.
  • And so on, until the tournaments slots will be filled up, then I start it (or if won't be filled up within a reasonable time I will use dummy Warlight accounts and byes)
---- create your own AWP World Tour event!

The 12 major events will be created by the AWP, but the 500 and 250 Series events can be created by anyone.
But you have to follow the format and invitation rules above and validate your event by the AWP (only after this validation will be the part of the AWP World Tour Ranking List)

---- the templates

Well, this part which is not really finalized in my mind, I need the help of the community to find the best templates for the major events.

I think these 12 templates should be the most strategical and the most popular ones.
However, they should be enough variety too just like the surfaces in tennis.


The four Grand Slam in the tennis are: Australian Open, French Open, Wimbledon, US Open.
Australian Open and US Open are played on similar (hard) courts, but the other two Slams played on very different courts (Wimbledon -> grass, French Open -> clay).

So the old 1vs1 ladder settings and the new one could be the two hard court Grand Slam, and the clay (the slowest court) Grand Slam could be an LD template while the grass Slam (the fastest court) could be an MA template.

I think, the LD and MA settings are different enough for they can represent the clay and grass courts in Warlight. Only problem with them that LD and MA templates are not very popular in Warlight competitions :O

My second thought for representing the two different courts:
Teamgame (3vs3 ladder setting) with alts (1 team belong to 1 player by using alts)
And FFA games (with 3 players for example)

This two types are different enough too.
But I am not sure that the FFA games are strategical enough, and not sure that this type of teamgames are popular enough (won't be 128 players who play with 3 alt accounts on this event)

Of course could be simple chosen the 4(+8) most popular templates, but I am afraid that they won't be enough variety.

Well these are my thoughts.
What is yours? Please help me to find the best 4+8 templates for the major events.
What is your 4 Grand Slam (two hard and 1-1 clay and grass) templates?
What is your 8 Master 1000 templates?

Edited 6/6/2016 09:43:44
AWP World Tour: 6/6/2016 09:41:58

Dr. Walter Ego
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Hmm, not very hot topic :P
I hope it is only because the totally trolled forum (I mean many player do not read the forum at all, because the many troll topics and replies :( )

Whatever the reason, I will not give up :P

Maybe better way if I start some smaller (500 and 250 series) tournaments to present how the system works, so I will. And later we can speak about the open questions.

And seems that I have to change the invitation method, because I am not sure that the original forum based (and difficult) one will work :O So the new one:



---- the invitation method

The main goal of this invitation system is maintain the strongest possible fields in the tournaments (because I think that more harder opponents mean more fun in a competition)

There will be 3 possibilities to get invitations to an event:
  • Ranking list
    This is the basis, 90%+ of the participants will be invited based on the current ranking list.
  • Wild Cards
    This is for the newcomers, so they can participate despite they aren't in the ranking list or their rank is not high enough. The Wild Cards will given by the organizers, and wouldn't be higher then 10% of the participants (only exception when there are insufficient players in the ranking list)
  • Qualifiers
    Well, we will see that we need this at all :)
Invitation steps:
  • before each events, a thread will be opened here for the wild card requests (including all details of the event)
  • after 3 days, I will create the tournament, and will send X invitations to the top X players from the ranking list and send Y invitation from the Wild Card request topic (where X=90% Y=10% of the slots).
  • after 3 days, I send +10 invitations to the next top 10 players from the ranking list and +1 Wild Card invitation.
  • after 3 days, I send +10 invitations to the next top 10 players from the ranking list and +1 Wild Card invitation.
  • And so on, until the tournaments slots will be filled up, then I start it (or if won't be filled up within a reasonable time I will use dummy Warlight accounts and byes)


Edited 6/6/2016 09:44:28
AWP World Tour: 6/6/2016 10:31:02


Buns157 
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I think it would have been popular, just you picked a terrible time to start it :P

You have clan league, WSOW along with seasonal just getting started and phearils similar contest.
AWP World Tour: 6/6/2016 10:53:48


master of desaster 
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This sounds really awesome! I like the idea of old and new ladder, MA would work too imo. Maybe no LD tough... i don't have a lot of time right now but i'm willing to help you on templates.

How do you think it can work if everyone is allowed to create tournaments? This will have to be more clear.

Edit: i don't think it would be unpopular at all! It just got no attention cause it got lost under the other threads. I'm active, also on the forum, but didn't see it before

Edited 6/6/2016 11:30:11
AWP World Tour: 6/6/2016 11:05:14

Dr. Walter Ego
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@Buns:
+ Promotion/Relegation League, Manager's League and so on :O
I know this, but what can I do, now came the urge to start organize tournaments :D
But there is no any problem, I am patient and pertinacious :)

Anyway, my plan is that I start this with only small events. So you can see how the systems works in practice, but mainly fun purpose in the beginning. I mean these 500 and 250 Series results can be easily overridden later (because only the best six are counted). So you can play ranked games against strong opponents without any serious bid in a fast format (single elimination). I hope it will be enough to join one more game beside the serious ones :)

Edited 6/6/2016 11:06:26
AWP World Tour: 6/6/2016 12:24:44

Dr. Walter Ego
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@Mod
How do you think it can work if everyone is allowed to create tournaments? This will have to be more clear.
"The 12 major events will be created by the AWP, but the 500 and 250 Series events can be created by anyone.
But you have to follow the format and invitation rules above and validate your event by the AWP (only after this validation will be the part of the AWP World Tour Ranking List)"

The bolded parts are the answer your question, the key is the validation.
i'm willing to help you on templates
Every help are welcome and thank you in advance!
I am open for every advices.
AWP World Tour: 6/6/2016 13:04:49


MarkusBM
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I really like the idea as well, and just like MoD, I simply hadn't even seen the post before. I think inviting only the top X players from the rankings, and then always the next top 10 (or something similar) could pose a problem if the idea really takes off and becomes very popular, since the players in the bottom of the rankings will be unlikely to ever receive invitations, which makes it really hard for them to earn any points to rise in the rankings as well.
AWP World Tour: 6/6/2016 13:52:03

Dr. Walter Ego
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@Markus
There will be 3 possibilities to get invitations to an event:
  • Ranking list
    This is the basis, 90%+ of the participants will be invited based on the current ranking list.
  • Wild Cards
    This is for the newcomers, so they can participate despite they aren't in the ranking list or their rank is not high enough. The Wild Cards will given by the organizers, and wouldn't be higher then 10% of the participants (only exception when there are insufficient players in the ranking list)
  • Qualifiers
    Well, we will see that we need this at all :)
The bolded parts are the answers to you.
Ok, Wild Cards will be mainly for the good players who were already proved in other series or ladders but not enough high ranked here yet. But the last point, the Qualifiers will be for the players you are talking about.

If it will be needed at all :)
I mean, it would be awesome if this fun series (because the main goal of this is the fun) would be so popular that qualifiers will be needed for a Grand Slam (with 128 players size!) or even a Masters (with 64 players size). But if it will really be so popular, then we can use the qualifiers section or change the invitation method too.

Edit: plus there will be held many 500 and 250 series events, where only the best six results will be counted from, and I think the high ranked players won't join to these events, so the players you talked about will have chance to get good enough rank even for an automatic Grand Slam invitation (and then only he have to win the Grand Slam for 2000 points for even higher rank :D ).
So the path will be open for everybody, I think.

Edited 6/6/2016 13:59:50
AWP World Tour: 6/7/2016 07:04:24


Pushover 
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Ineffable's World Series of Warlight (WSOW) was originally intended to be ATP-like, actually. I ended up simplifying it (and doing away with tournaments with selective invite requirements), but I'm hoping your idea takes off!

Generally I'm interested in participating but probably not until July, I'm rather busy lately and about to go on a 2 week vacation.
AWP World Tour: 6/8/2016 04:02:42


master of desaster 
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Bump
AWP World Tour: 6/8/2016 09:12:39

Dr. Walter Ego
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Well, I have created the first event:
https://www.warlight.net/Forum/158800-awp-world-tour-250-series-guiroma
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=19365

@Push
Do not afraid, you do not miss anything, the first few events will be small warming ups. Even you will miss a major event, not so big issue neither because how work the system (ok, will be harder to reach the first position but not possible :) )

Anyway, this is one main different between the WSOW and AWP World Tour, the flexibility. I mean you can easy leave the Tour (simple surrender all of your running games, and you will be eliminated immediately from everywhere) and easy rejoin anytime (if you are good player the Wild Cards will allow you to play in the highest level promptly). Although, the WSOW has got better (more valid) "ranking system", but this is the price of flexibility :) But as I wrote earlier, the main goal of this is the fun - the possibilities that you can play ranked games (-> Ranking List) in strong multiday tournaments against good opponents (-> invitation method) on varied templates.

@MoD
I am waiting for your advices in connection with the templates.

So again my thoughts: the templates should be
  • popular
  • strategical
  • varied enough
What templates do you suggest for the
  • 4 Grand Slam (128 players)
  • 8 Masters (64 players)
  • and for the 500 (32 players) and 250 (16 players) Series
Of course the smaller events can be the most varied (because fewer players need to join and means less points), but the majors should be too. Especially the 4 Grand Slam, because very hard to reach the Grand Slam in the tennis because the differences of the surfaces. So the 4 Grand Slam events should represent something like this in Warlight too. I mean to reach the Warlight Grand Slam should need the most complex skills. But the popularity is a key point too when we speak about a 128 players event :)
AWP World Tour: 6/14/2016 13:52:34


ps 
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tl;dr: how do i get invited?
AWP World Tour: 6/14/2016 14:46:53

MIFRAN 
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i would like an invite as well !
AWP World Tour: 6/15/2016 10:40:12

Dr. Walter Ego
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Both of you have invited to the current week event (https://www.warlight.net/Forum/160250-awp-world-tour-500-series-battle-islands-v)

Anyway, a good tool which help with the TLDR issue is the CTRL-F :P

But if the TLDR is a crucial thing, here is a short way you can handle your invites in the future:

1. Open the event schedule here (Event tab of the spreadsheet):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ao0SlM6Kv6CE1-Ha5mBIrI6nj4Uft2lMaE25qbXxWHs

2. Choose what events are you interested in.

3. On the date (always means a Monday) which you find in the "Week of" column, search here a newly opened topic which always will start with this string: "AWP World Tour -"

4. Make a short post in that topic that you would like a Wild Card (maybe you will be invited by the Ranking List and won't need any Wild Card spot, but if TLDR to read and understand the system this is the simple way if you do not want to miss anything. :P )

Hmm, maybe this advice is already TLDR :D
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