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Political Humor thread: 6/5/2016 02:12:22


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Atheists lack a belief in God with the motivation that they don't believe that God exists.


Not necessarily, that's just the narrower meanings of it (which are hyponyms of the broader meaning).
Political Humor thread: 6/5/2016 02:43:02


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Yes, it is necessary. Otherwise, there would be no reason for demographers to distinguish between these two groups, since that makes literally no sense if they believe exactly the same thing.

Check out this definition:

Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is the rejection of belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which, in its most general form, is the belief that at least one deity exists.


(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism)

The important part is that Atheism, no mater how broad the definition, is contrasted with theism. This is pretty obvious from the name, and this is why it is a different idea from agnosticism.

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Political Humor thread: 6/5/2016 03:11:22


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Otherwise, there would be no reason for demographers to distinguish between these two groups, since that makes literally no sense if they believe exactly the same thing.


Demographers have to specify what meaning they have.

Both atheism and agnosticism don't have any belief in gods, contrasted to theism, which is belief in a god.
Political Humor thread: 6/5/2016 03:24:33


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"Contrasted" just means a striking difference, and agnosticism does not have a striking difference to theism, as agnosticism does not disagree that God exists. The only difference is that agnostics do not believe that it is possible to prove Gods existence.

It's also not accurate to say that agnostics share with atheists a lack of a belief in God; In fact, Many Theists are actually agnostics as well (I even consider myself to be an agnostic theist/fideist).

Atheism definitely does differ from agnosticism and contrast with theism in that it denies the existence of God.
Political Humor thread: 6/5/2016 03:57:34


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Ah, ok, should have said from the beginning that agnosts can believe in God.
Political Humor thread: 6/5/2016 04:00:11


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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

^Agnostic.
Political Humor thread: 6/5/2016 04:10:55


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Sorry about that.
Political Humor thread: 6/6/2016 21:09:49


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This is only half political, and it only makes sense if you speak French, but here goes:

An Arab says: "Je mange beaucoup de grenades; c'est plein d'anti-occident"
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