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Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 19:08:59


Belgian Gentleman
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I feel really bad what happened in Orlando earlier this morning. I think it's better for the world to unite as one and fight this danger whatever it is. I remembered Paugers once saying he was bisexual. What if he was present at that gay bar during the shooting? He could've been a victim. And Florida is by coincidence also one of the places in the world that I secretly like to visit...

Pray for Paugers!
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 19:10:59


Leif Eriksson
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RIP Paugers
He'll be in Heavens Gay bar.
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 19:12:56


Benjamin628 
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Was it a terrorist attack? Police are investigating from what I've seen on Twitter
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 19:18:18


Belgian Gentleman
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Killing people because of their sexual preferences is just plain wrong, yet it is legalised in some countries... I'll never understand why people take religion so seriously that they want to see actual blood being shed.

Edited 6/12/2016 19:20:21
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 19:50:29


Cata Cauda 
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#Murica
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 19:52:34


Angry Koala
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Full support to Floridians, I am amazed no Americans reacted at all about it, it is apparently the worst shooting ever...
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 19:53:07


kynte
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@Benjamin: Probably. Shooter called 911 to pledge his allegiance to ISIS and then shot up an LGBT nightclub.

That said, hopefully this doesn't get hella politicized to the point we forget the victims like we did in San Bernardino. Please don't jump on this as an opportunity to peddle any agendas you might have about guns, a dislike of gays, or your views on America's national security and Islamic terrorism- at least don't forget about the victims, don't forget that they're real people who died at the hands of another human and not just characters in some political narrative. I'm really sad that I have to say this, but there's already been a lot of self-congratulations and "I knew I was right about the Muslims" as well as "We need to ban guns now" at the expense of caring about the victims as real people and trying to help them.

This is the worst mass shooting in American history and the third worst mass shooting ever, with 53 people dead. Almost certainly a hate crime and a terrorist act, but let's not forget that this is most importantly a massive human tragedy and we need to remember the victims.

If you live in Florida near the Orlando area, please donate blood. There's a huge need for it right now. OneBlood is apparently at capacity right now, but they're asking for donors in the coming days. You can really help save a life with just an hour of your time.

Edited 6/12/2016 20:00:02
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 21:00:19


125ch209 
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@Kynte
The victims are dead.Thinking about them or praying for them ain't gonna bring them back. I say let's politicize the hell out of it and actually talk honestly about the root causes of such shootings. Maybe that way some solutions can be found to prevent the next shooting.
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 21:02:53


Paugers
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Damn Muslims wanna shoot up our gay bars...
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 21:13:50


Benjamin628 
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50 dead, 53 injured.
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 21:33:44

HomeLess
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+1 Kynte

Please don't jump on this as an opportunity to peddle any agendas you might have about guns, a dislike of gays, or your views on America's national security and Islamic terrorism- at least don't forget about the victims, don't forget that they're real people who died at the hands of another human and not just characters in some political narrative.


couldn't have said it better.
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 21:43:48


kynte
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@125ch209: I'm not asking you to pray for them or to keep them in your thoughts. There's real life medical needs for the survivors, coupled with- as you noted- whatever problems helped this tragedy happen.

But there's a definite risk of abusing this to promote personal agendas- it's already happened with a few politicians, including (unfortunately) the Lt. Gov. of my state. If you feel an urgent need to stop this from happening again, that's great- but don't go the route where you use these victims as simple characters, like people do with starving African children to criticize anything from capitalism to religion. At least remember that we're still dealing with real people who suffered real losses, whose stories were prematurely ended by the knowing and willful act of another person.

My first thought after any disaster is about the people- about how to help the survivors and the victims' families and communities recover from the tragedy and how to stop this from happening again. I'm just hoping it's the same for others, that they don't immediately jump on these deaths to validate a pre-existing agenda, especially one of hate.

On that note, I'm way too far away from the area to donate blood. Anyone from the area know any way I can help?

Edited 6/12/2016 21:44:30
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 21:50:26


Belgian Gentleman
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*ahum* let's not forget that this was a terror attack with political motives

Knyte I appreciate how you want to erase the political agenda from this attack but this attack can't simply erase its politicism you know. Technically IS is still at war with the US.

Edited 6/12/2016 21:57:05
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 21:53:53


Trump2016
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+1 125ch.

Thinking about the victims ain't gonna do shit. The tragedy has already happened. It's time to talk about how to prevent this from happening again, and again, and again, as it seems to be doing right now...
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 21:57:01


{rp} GeneralGror
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Seems like a prime time to mention how ridiculous the gun laws are in the US...
Shame about those killed, of course.
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 22:08:56


Von Jewburg
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Perhaps guns aren't the problem... but the people who carry them are.

If you give a decent, sane man a gun, he won't be using it to slaughter schoolchildren. The problem is that people who are either on criminal watchlists or mentally unstable are acquiring guns, and doing this.

Banning guns is not the answer. But having it be required that you have a background check/learn how to responsibly use it is something I'd support.
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 22:13:29


Major General Smedley Butler
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+1 Knyte
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 22:15:30


Belgian Gentleman
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In case if you're wondering about that 'Pray for Paugers' pun. I stole it from Salty.
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 22:22:49


Belgian Gentleman
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+1 Knyte


This comes from a guy that politicises almost everything from a civilization 6 thread to a regular Warlight map.

Edited 6/12/2016 22:23:54
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 22:27:34


Major General Smedley Butler
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I can politicize much more than now, and most of the time I'm not the one starting the politicization. You're just some guy who came onto a thread and started whining about the last person who posted.
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 22:28:57


Belgian Gentleman
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Maybe I created this thread and I'm curious to see who posted?
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 23:04:58


Lane Cognito 
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We've got to stop making excuses for bigots. People hide behind their religions but the fact is that if they didn't want to hate, then they wouldn't. They make an excuse for everything else.
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 23:19:48


Major General Smedley Butler
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I'm not sure what you want to do, Path Obvious. You can't ostracize religious folk, it'd just be you getting ostracized on account of there being more of them than you. You can't ban it, though it'd be pretty funny seeing the governments of the world abolish themselves trying to do that.

If you're talking about bigotry in general, well, most bigots don't attack folk, and they tend to just have different opinions, so I don't see why we should mass oppress them.
Pray for Florida: 6/12/2016 23:27:37


Жұқтыру
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Just recall that over 150k folk die each day - this, and pretty much every dreadknight attack except the September 11 attacks are all very small in the big scheme of things. While I do think it's bad that 50+ folk died in Orlando, I think it's far worse that there's 150k more folk dead today.
Pray for Florida: 6/13/2016 01:53:45


#TrumpTrain
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prayers wont help... it time 2 take all da guns weeeeeee
Pray for Florida: 6/13/2016 02:00:49


Major General Smedley Butler
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take all da gunz with oru gunz

weeeeeee
Pray for Florida: 6/13/2016 03:50:37


Empire of Kilos
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Is anybody going to mention Christina Grimmie? Orlando has just been drenched in blood these past few days.
Pray for Florida: 6/13/2016 04:01:21


BUFFALO
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if da gayz had G U N Z, dey wood nott bee ded !! duh
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