Been talking about politics heavily in clan chat and wanted to throw this beacon out there. Not looking for an argument. I'm not going to debate capitalists. I do that in smaller groups and moreorless private settings for the sake of a controlled debate without 1000 people bashing each other. This is asking about the lefties, not you liberal bs, and Clinton isn't left. I mean the Anarcho-Communists, the Social Democrats, the Left-Libertarians, ect.

Nope lol just fishing for friendlies xD

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I am usually leftist on social, domestic, and foreign issues. I tend to be Capitalist/Unionist on economic problems.


Overall, most online political spectrums put me at left/Center Libertarian

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Go for it, Jnevermore23

Godammit a troll. This post was specifically for leftists. I have no problem with debates, but trolls don't debate you just shitsling

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Would you consider Obama a true lefty?

Absolutely not, American Democratic Party is very much not leftist

Anarcho-communism is a thing?

Also Karl, I think the Vatican counts as a Christian State.

I grew up in an anarchocommunist society so yes lol

The vatican is literally an absolute christian monarchy with Francis as it's current king.

I grew up in an anarchocommunist society so yes lol

There is no such thing. Every single state in the modern world (even socialist ones like china and vietnam) are capitalist.

Eh what you would call a hippie commune is where I grew up, and our population ranged from 5-20thousand and we actively practice anarchocommunism

I don't like Socialism.

Sounds like an interesting place. Is it in florida?

Yes it is.

It used to be in Washington State, US. but was moved to South America. When the commune in WA was destroyed most left the country, I stayed back

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It's a non member observer state of the UN, which is a state.

The Vatican is an absolute monarchy. Watch CGP Grey's video on it, as far as tertiary sources go, it's gold. ;)

A state must be able to defend its borders, the Vatican cannot.

Ok, so I typed up "define state", and here is the country-definition, for state.

a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government.

Ok, since we're saying that the Vatican is a nation, let's see what qualifies something as a nation.

The 1933 Montevideo convention defines a state as:

The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: (a) a permanent population; (b) a defined territory; (c) government; and (d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.

Where here do you see "the ability to defend its borders"?

This is no strawman; I'm addressing directly what you said, replying with how you're wrong.

Ox For the win lol