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Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/22/2016 21:13:55


Major General Smedley Butler
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Leave: 4
Stay: 0

My case for Britain leaving is that the EU is slowly becoming a state and is trying to form an army. Britain leaving would weaken the EU some, and might get others to leave, keeping it from strengthening as fast.

A strong, united Europe presents a large government headed by politicians who are warmongers and blood thirsty, and this government has a framework for expansion to the east to absorb smaller states while competing against another government (Russia) to expand it's influence and it will attempt to dominate Russia and assert it's dominance over Europe. This presents a scenario where not just a normal war (that would kill tens of millions) but a possible nuclear war that could exterminate the world. Not to mention that a united European Empire would try to throw around it's weight in the Middle East, causing many problems and possibly uniting the middle eastern sentiment even more than American invasions did against the west.

Your votes and arguments are welcome.

Edited 6/22/2016 23:19:09
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/22/2016 21:18:57


Жұқтыру
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Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/22/2016 21:23:46


Radical Traditionalist
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leave
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/22/2016 21:30:09


ayy lmao
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shit i didn't read it and accidentally voted against lol
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/22/2016 23:14:01


Bla 
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Leave. The EU is an institution full of corrupt lobbyists upholding the interests of the capitalist class, it is broken beyond repair. The idea of cooperation and a united Europe is good but not in the form of EU.
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/22/2016 23:19:54


Major General Smedley Butler
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Leave. The EU is an institution full of corrupt lobbyists upholding the interests of the socialist class, it is broken beyond repair. The idea of cooperation and a united Europe is good but not in the form of EU.
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/22/2016 23:58:07


Radical Traditionalist
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Europe needs to kill all immigrants and deport all non-whites.
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 01:13:59


GeneralPE
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EU is just the USSR. Go Putin, take it apart and become czar I beg you!
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 02:04:47


Жұқтыру
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EU is a fundamentally good concept, but just done in a very bad way, and Britain leaving would allow it to negotiate a bit more.
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 02:05:52


GeneralPE
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We should just have a war and let the winner remake the Roman empire
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 02:10:15


Major General Smedley Butler
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We should have some Russian Roulette with a glock and let you go first.
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 02:11:29


GeneralPE
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Sure. I was born lucky
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 02:17:29


Жұқтыру
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There is no such thing as luck, only skill.
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 02:23:19


DerWyyy
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leave. so refugees dont poor into britian
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 02:24:14


Radical Traditionalist
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the EU is a terrible idea. We need 1 nation Europe not a union.
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 02:27:42


DerWyyy
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the EU is a terrible idea. We need 1 nation Europe not a union [\i]

that is the worst idea ever. a 1 nation europe would turn into a mess. countries hate each other. The EU should just do more for europe.
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 02:35:44


#TrumpTrain
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remain cus i bet money on it mm
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 02:38:08


Paugers
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Europe needs to be united, however, under a different system of administration rather than the EU which is corrupted by liberal idiots and Muslim-sympathizers. So, the UK should not leave the EU, but rather fix it!

STAY

Edited 6/23/2016 02:38:26
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 02:39:03


Radical Traditionalist
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Der you're a cuck.
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 02:47:44


Жұқтыру
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Europe needs to be united, however, under a different system of administration rather than the EU which is corrupted by liberal idiots and Muslim-sympathizers. So, the UK should not leave the EU, but rather fix it!


In the EU, how it works is, Luxemburg has just as much voting power as Britain. And Liechtenstein. And Belgium. Britain can't change much in the EU (alone).
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 02:54:20


Paugers
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In the EU, how it works is, Luxemburg has just as much voting power as Britain. And Liechtenstein. And Belgium. Britain can't change much in the EU (alone).

This is true, however, I think Germany, France, etc will start developing similar opinions and begin to enforce a more united Europe for Europeans, not outsiders.
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 02:57:48


DerWyyy
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well more POPULATED countries should have more votes, etc. Britian, Germany, France, Spain. however the governments of countries small like Luxembourg, Malta, Lichtenstein should have less votes, they should still be a good amount. It should not be like the US where Texas is 60 EV and North Dakota is 1.
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 03:18:04


Paugers
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^
That makes too much sense.
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 04:44:26


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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^
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 04:54:04


Benjamin628 
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It should not be like the US where Texas is 60 EV and North Dakota is 1

http://www.senate.gov/index.htm
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 07:14:52

snife
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In the EU, how it works is, Luxemburg has just as much voting power as Britain. And Liechtenstein. And Belgium.

nope...
sorry to open your narrow minded brain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_in_the_Council_of_the_European_Union

http://www.euractiv.com/section/sustainable-dev/opinion/new-council-voting-means-germany-is-europe-s-reluctant-paymaster/

I realised that this would possibly declared as "tl;dr"
so here sth: since 2003 to 2014:
Luxemburg: 4
Britain: 29
Liechtenstein: ?!? wtf?
Belgium: 12

Edited 6/23/2016 07:30:19
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 09:08:09


Apollo
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right now the straw poll that was pasted at the beginning of the thread,

For - 15

Against - 14
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 09:20:19


Tristan
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Leave. The EU is an institution full of corrupt lobbyists upholding the interests of the capitalist class, it is broken beyond repair. The idea of cooperation and a united Europe is good but not in the form of EU.


+1
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 10:20:27

The LIbertine
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You see all sorts of complicated economic arguments for and against brexit but when it comes down to it, when I here people say they want to leave it is always to stop 'others' coming to the country. Misguided xenophobia.


Quite a few comments here that I have straight ignored but one I just couldn't. Derwyyy, in your mind how would leaving the EU stop refugees 'pooring' into Britain?

You do realise that none of the countries the refugees are from are in the EU anyway?

It's annoying how these right wing owned papers have managed to scare people into believing there is somehow a direct connection between brexit and the refugee crisis.

Anyway, Aside from refugees who I believe we have a moral responsibility to help, there is immigration, legal and illegal.

Illegal immigration obviously will be unaffected by brexit. They are crossing the border secretly.


Then there is legally! Immigration. More than. Half of the immigration here is from outside the EU so leaving the EU won't change that. For the other half from within the EU coming to this country will no doubt involve more paperwork but we aren't gonna suddenly stop French and Germans working here due to a bit if red tape. And why would we? An imigration of working tax payers is always a good thing.

On a separate note I feel safer knowing that if we as a country disagree with decisions made by our government we have a higher power to take it to. This power is more concerned with civil liberty and human rights than business and corporate interests.

Edited 6/24/2016 08:53:33
Brexit, have warlight vote!: 6/23/2016 13:37:24


Death 
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Stay.

Sure, Britain has many problems, but leaving the EU isn't a solution for them.

Also, who tf said Liechtenstein is part of the EU? o_O

Edited 6/23/2016 13:37:53
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