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Islam is a cult: 6/22/2016 23:45:02


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Islam is a cult: 6/22/2016 23:54:35


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Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 00:29:02


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There are cults within Islam. Look to the Caucasus if you want to see more or less modernized Islam. The Caucasus is that group of countries whose names no one can pronounce that sit below western Russia.
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 00:31:36


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Stop creating more troll threads.
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 00:49:03


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There are cults within Islam. Look to the Caucasus if you want to see more or less modernized Islam. The Caucasus is that group of countries whose names no one can pronounce that sit below western Russia.


That's only Azerbaijan, that is "moderate", the rest are as faithful as Arabians. But I think the most nutter Muslims are found in Egypt (over half Muslim population upholds Islamic theocratic law for everyone (nonMuslims in, too), and it's one of the highest upholding bases for killing folk that convert from Islaam.

Middle Asia+Turkey+Azerbaijan are the hubs for "moderate" Islaam - most folk there believe in evolution, don't think that the law should follow Islaamic codes, believe in freedom of faith (they don't punish you for converting), and so on. These countries have had a long past of secularism.
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 00:55:29


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MIDF
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 01:15:25


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Religions are just cults with more members. Islam and Christianity are practically the same thing.
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 01:16:31


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Islam and Christianity are practically the same thing.

Please...someone euthanize him before he can reproduce. seriously, how is someone this deluded?
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 01:16:45


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Religions are just cults with more members. Islam and Christianity are practically the same thing.

Ah, we were lacking that kind of asshole before you showed up. Thanks for coming, edgelord.

Edited 6/23/2016 01:17:24
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 01:23:11


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+1 PE and Darth
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 01:33:26


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Islam has the same roots. It's born out of the same religion. I've studied both. They're very similar. Muslims even regard Jesus as one of their prophets.
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 01:35:16


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You'd have to be deluded or uneducated to not see the similarity.
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 01:39:02


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It's actually even more than that. Muslims even consider Jesus to be the savior of the Jews as well.

As for Christianity and Islam, neither of them are actually cults. A cult is something very specific:

A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or as imposing excessive control over members:


(http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/cult)

By definition Christianity and islam are excluded from this due to the fact that billions of followers for each can in no way be considered "a small group". As well as this, christians and muslims alone make up a majority of the world population, so it's also logically impossible for their beliefs to be widely considered as being "strange".
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 01:40:06


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You're lying Lane.
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 01:44:30


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Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 01:48:51

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Y'all are all stupid
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 01:50:38


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Islam and Christianity don't have the same roots you imbecile.
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 01:56:19


Lane Cognito 
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Islam and Christianity don't have the same roots you imbecile.


Seriously? That's not even some obscure piece of information. That's common knowledge. You can easily look that up.
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 01:56:59


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By definition Christianity and islam are excluded from this due to the fact that billions of followers for each can in no way be considered "a small group".


Well, actually, they're both "relatively small", since more folk are not Christians than are, and same for Islaam.
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 01:58:04


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Relative to other belief systems, they are quite large.
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 02:06:33


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Things that are not cults:

- Christianity, with all of its different forms.
- Islam, with all of its different forms.
- Atheism, because it doesn't worship anything.

Things that are cults:

- Some word that I don't want to be tracked for, it's root word is an antonym for ignorance.
- Satanism (Different than atheism)

Edited 6/23/2016 02:06:51
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 02:11:50


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Question:

Why do English speakers tend to say Allah - one "A", but Muslims tend to have two "A"s?
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 02:12:19


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>Islam and Christianity have the same roots.

Edited 6/23/2016 17:16:30
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 02:12:31


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Well, actually, they're both "relatively small", since more folk are not Christians than are, and same for Islaam.


When taken together they actually do constitute a majority of people at 54.7%, but even if you take them as individual groups, they aren't small. One in three people for christianity or one in four for islam are not small minorities.

And this is taking a "Not christians and not muslims are a monolothic group" approach. The fact is that there is no other religious group that even comes close to the adherence of either christianity ofrIslam. Currently hinduism comes in at a distant third with 500 million less adherents than islam and approximately 1.1 billion less than christianity, and this is the only one that manages to make 50% adherence of either christianity or islam.

Buddhism is much farther behind, and has around four times less adherents that christianity and a third that of islam, and Taoism and chinto have something like 10-20x less adherents. And those are the only ones that have more than 100 million adherents, since when you go farther down then that it gets a bit ridiculous.

If we're speaking in "relative" terms then christianity and islam are most definitely not small groups, especially if taken together. And in raw numbers, they number in the billions.
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 02:17:05


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even if you take them as individual groups, they aren't small. One in three people for christianity or one in four for islam are not small minorities.


Maybe they're not small, but yeah, they're outnumbered. Relative to other faiths, no, they're not minorities.
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 02:38:24


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Outnumbered ≠ Small, also Minority ≠ Small. To be a cult you have to be a small group as that is literally part of how we define "Cult". If a belief becomes mainstream, it loses it's Cultness.
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 14:35:13


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both christianity and Islam evolved from judaism
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 16:08:45


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If a belief becomes mainstream, it loses it's Cultness.

Agreed. But yeah, Islam's the worst. Mostly because the majority of it's followers still think beheading gays and shooting cartoonists is fine.
Say what you will about the Crusades, but Christians today don't walk into a town and start killing all those who aren't "saved".

And Islam also feels more politically motivated than religious. There's plenty of lines in the Qur'an about killing infidels unless they give you money, which is then used as income for the Islamic State.
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 17:16:05


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kek no they didn't Snoop
Islam is a cult: 6/23/2016 17:29:51


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It does, Karl. In the Quran and New Testament, Old testament characters and stories are featured.

Matthew 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David , the son of Abraham (therefore implying that the Christians knew of the Old Testament and gave Jesus the lineage of those important characters)

Mark 10:6 But from the beginning of creation, God made them male and female. pretty similar to Genesis 1:27, So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

James 2:23 and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God. (again, the New Testament states Abraham believed in God, as does the old Testament)

Matthew 22:32, ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not God of the dead, but of the living.”

Luke 18:20 and Mark 10:19 both state the 10 commandments, and both say "know the commandments", implying they came before Jesus.

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Matthew 1:23 Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel”


And for the Quran, 5:44: It was We who revealed the Torah (to Moses); therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the Prophet who bowed (as in Islam) to Allah’s will, by the Rabbis and the Doctors of Law.



In both the New Testament and the Quran, Old Testament Stories are referenced. Not to mention they imply being written before, as both the Quran and New Testament imply that their followers know the Old Testament.
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