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England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/25/2016 11:12:34


DesertFox
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As you all know, yesterday, the United Kingdom , after a referendum, have voted the exit from the European Union, being the first country to do that.

http://i.imgur.com/TBrJtlm.png

Yeap, that how the EU looked like before yesterday.28 Countries.
But in 2018, the UK leave will become official, leaving EU with 27 (or more in future ? )

http://i.imgur.com/QGBRdfX.png

I know some of you know about the problems that EU have (plus some of my compatriots hate about it ),but this action might start a chain of other actions that might (or will ) change the evolution of Europe.
The first effect was the depreciation of the pound sterling . The pound has fallen to levels not seen since 1985.The principal European exchanges have lost 960 billion euros.And more economic problems might appear.
On other side , the ‘divorce’ of UK from EU might start a wave of independence movements.
Is known that Scotland have tried to gain independence in 2014 , and failed.But after this action made by UK, the scots might try again to gain independence, now having another good reason to do so:Scotland want to remain part of EU (and this was showed in the votes).So in the future, we might see and independent Scotland.
Another change might be the unification of Northen Ireland with Ireland,having the same reasons as Scotland.And it seems that London want to be independent from UK.
Another small problem is Gibraltar, who wants to stay in both UK and EU.But if the problems degenerates, Gibraltar might become a Spanish territory.
After the Brexit, France and Netherlands might also want to make referendums , as Marine Le Pen (president of the National Front of France ) and Geert Wilders (leader of the Liberty Party in Netherlands )declared so.The idea also appeared in Italy, after the declaration of Matteo Salvini, leader of the North League.

http://i.imgur.com/iWoCW1J.png

Let’s say that might be Uk somewhere in 2018-2020.
After their example, Catalonia might gain independence too.And we all know that Catalonia is the only region that keeps Spain ‘’alive’’.A possible independence might doom Spain, and that will be followed by independence of the Basques(and maybe the independence of other regions in Spain)

http://i.imgur.com/HKaxJ0Y.png

http://i.imgur.com/Ecnnu5b.png

Now, let’s imagine this.
Let’s say that France and The Netherlands will hold the referendums, and somehow, one of them,or both , win it.This is going to crumble EU more , and soon, other states that have anti-EU movements will try to take power and hold referendums.

http://i.imgur.com/jpjL7nd.png

Czech Republic might follow next (after the declaration of the Czech Prime-Minister Bohuslav Sobotka in February this year ), after it Sweden, Italy and Hungary(more or less the last one.Only if EU will adopt ‘’more serious attitude’’).And there are rumors that Denmark would also follow this exemple.
And so, European Union will crumble.And maybe one of the most negative scenarios is that Russia will find the perfect moment to take control over a crumbled Europe(but I don’t think this is gonna to happen)
The events will stimulate right and far-right parties and movements to take a chance to work their way as leaders on their countries.
And another problem will be with the immigrant movement

http://i.imgur.com/TBnskCo.png

But that’s my point of view on this problem.
As for my own country, 1 pound is now 5.6686 Ron (2 days ago, was 5.8884 ).And the economical effect is less problematic here.Even though, this might affect our commercial relations with UK, this is also an opportunity to look for other economic parteners.
The bad part is going for the Romanian workers in UK, which will be affected by the events which will occur after the Brexit.

This is what i think.
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/25/2016 11:19:42


Major General Smedley Butler
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The EU was getting too powerful, and even if Britain stayed, things would have still been getting worse.

And so, European Union will crumble.And maybe one of the most negative scenarios is that Russia will find the perfect moment to take control over a crumbled Europe(but I don’t think this is gonna to happen)

Russia doesn't have the capability to take over Europe.

Anyway, #texit
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/25/2016 11:37:05


Belgian Gentleman
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the EU gouverment needs to reform. Less regulations, giving more sovereignity to member states and supporting small businesses instead of bigger ones will cause less tensions and thus lowering the risk of other countries leaving the union. After all the idea of an economic union is great but people feel less uncomformtable with a strict centralised political union.
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/25/2016 11:51:51


OxTheAutist 
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And it seems that London want to be independent from UK.

. . .

it was going well up until this point.

also 2) technically Isle of Man isn't in the EU

finally 3) you speak of Romanian workers in UK. don't worry, none of them pay taxes anyway so nothing will change

Edited 6/25/2016 11:55:03
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/25/2016 12:44:21


{Canidae} Kretoma
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LOL to Oxs 3) :D
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/25/2016 12:47:38


Tristan
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England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit )

The first mess-up was opening the flood gates to Romanians.
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/25/2016 12:51:07


DanWL
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It was England and most of Wales that wanted out. I agree that we should have stayed in.
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/25/2016 14:17:40


Tristan
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Romanian workers
Great joke, I've never heard that one before
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/25/2016 14:38:14


DesertFox
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To give some answers.

1.I said I don't think so that Russia will invade.
That phrase was reference to the europeans who have 'russofobia '.(Justified by russian nuclear armament and the idea that the russkies are brutal in combat .Cause when you think at Russian Army, you think at the Red Army during WW2.Well, that's a stereotype taken in serious in Eastern Europe )

2.http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36620401
Yeap, London really wants to be independent.
There are some other articles about that.
And I haven't said anything about Isle of Man, even though it appears on map.

3.Some quotes from diferent news to Ox's third point.
''the conditions for legal foreign workers in the UK will have to be renegotiated in terms of their rights to pensions and social benefits''-BalkanInsight


''About 170,000 Romanians with national social insurance who work in the UK could be forced to return to Romania if Great Britain decided to leave the European Union.This could create a major disruption in the flow of money as Romanian expats send home more than 500 million euro a year, or 0.3 per cent of GDP''-Austrian bank Erste.

4.To Tristan's phrase.

''Well, now the floodgates have been opened in Britain and seven other EU Member States for almost two months, and a recent survey of airlines and coach companies operating between the UK and Romania and Bulgaria has found no change in the numbers coming from either country. In fact, Romanians and Bulgarian migrants tend to prefer other EU countries to Britain; with 96 per cent of Romanian migrants choosing destinations other than the UK.''-Debating Europe,26 Feb 2014''

And though, we came there to work, not for social benefits.
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/25/2016 15:07:17


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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Gotta agree with our friendly neighbor erwin rommel here. Although EU could use more seriousness now.
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/25/2016 15:28:12


Stewie
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Agreed with DesertFox as well, expect for one thing - if more countries leave EU(especially France), my guess is it's likely EU itself will disband after 3-4 referendums, rather than becoming a German dominated(at least *clearly* dominated) union with a lot of Eastern European countries.

and for Russia? There's still NATO for that.
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/25/2016 15:55:13


OxTheAutist 
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for isle of man, what I mean is that you labelled it as in the EU on your map, when it never has been. nitpicking, yes.

And I hadn't heard about London's plans and I thought what you were saying was a joke, lol! :D

And about Romanians, what I was saying was a joke, obviously not all Romanians are tax-dodgers/gypsies.
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/25/2016 17:46:55


DesertFox
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ok, anway, that info i think it was good.
And yea, i forgot in the first map to clear that Isle of Man :D
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/26/2016 17:18:01


LoXIV
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Brexit will be painfuull at first, but i'm sure we arrogant englishman wll get throught it
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/26/2016 17:26:58


Major General Smedley Butler
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I don't get why people hate Farage.

He's not racist, you don't get to spurt out racist when someone doesn't want to import refugees from avoidable conflicts to compete for industrial jobs with people he's representing. He's not a warmonger, he actively went against the Iraq war. He's a nationalist, but the rest of the politicians are, so you really can't go after that. What do you even hate about him?
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/26/2016 18:04:27

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England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/27/2016 01:14:20


Nitr01
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The EU is as described by its leader, a dying trade bloc. The EU and its overbearing laws and powerful bureaucracy proved unacceptable for Britain. Why should a commission in Brussels decide the future for Britain? Yeah that's too bad if you can't travel as easily or the pound takes a temporary drop, not everyone is an upper class millennial crybaby. Many Brits are dealing with lawless criminal immigrants who don't have any respect property or individual rights. And the EU wants to force more migrants on Britain. The BREXITers aren't xenophobic they simply want a refined process, and a process by which Britain makes its own decisions not a foreign government and immigration is limited to a suitable level allowing the population to adjust. And economically, it's better to take a chance and break away then guarantee yourself economic decline in a DYING TRADE BLOC.

In short time we will see more political parties in other countries opposing the EU. The EU now functions as a sovereign state with little regard for local decisions. An EU proposal cannot be overturned by a member state. A member state cannot take a course of political action that is not approved by the scheming Eurocrats in Brussels. Every European country is different and when people can't even decide the course of their own damn country then you have a problem. The EU consists of globalist fascists hellbent on flooding Europe with third world immigrants and running member state economies into the ground.

For example, the EU did not allow Greece to fix its economy and then rejoin. They forced Greece to stay in the Union, helping absolutely no one, and doing nothing except solidifying the power of the Eurocrats. Now, they want Britain to officially leave as soon as possible to drive the pound further down instead of allowing Britain to leave gradually and smoothly. They want Europe to fail because they don't give a shit about Europe. They want to ruin economies, wash out cultures with mass immigration, and prevent political dissent.

Put simply, f*** the EU. If Europe is going to unite then it needs a different system, not one that holds more power than individual countries, and NOT one run by globalist fascists.

DEUS VULT!
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/27/2016 11:47:47

snife
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"They want to ruin economies"

of course! this is what the EU was made for...
All this overpaid people are thinking about how to destroy our economy best.

All? No not all of them! Some are trying to wash out bloodlines too! Maybe they should import some of these people or their relatives:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_the_most_children
But maybe the jews and the scientologists already have them.
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/27/2016 12:12:05


Belgian Gentleman
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oh god.. Genghis is on that list
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/27/2016 12:35:10


Genghis 
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You don't want to pay this much child support. People see me as some pillaging raiding scum. I'm just trying to pay my alimony
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/27/2016 16:47:42


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Russia wont invade Europe there's a little thing called NATO
The Eu is undemocratic

Edited 6/27/2016 16:48:27
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/27/2016 17:39:57


Nitr01
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"They want to ruin economies"

of course! this is what the EU was made for...
All this overpaid people are thinking about how to destroy our economy best.

All? No not all of them! Some are trying to wash out bloodlines too! Maybe they should import some of these people or their relatives:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_the_most_children
But maybe the jews and the scientologists already have them.


Of course they're destroying the European economy. If they wanted to help their member states they wouldn't have forced Greece to stay in the Union instead of leaving, improving its economy, and re-joining. They wouldn't be forcing the UK to leave as soon as possible to shake up their economy more. They know a non-EU country can have a thriving economy and make trade deals with other countries, so they want the UK to have as much trouble with this as possible.

Why?

Because they want to stay in power, nothing else. The EU even acknowledges that it's a dying trade bloc. They don't care about Europe. They care about their authority to dictate decisions in foreign countries.

You didn't read what I wrote did you. At least not carefully. And your retarded satirical response isn't an argument.
England, you messed up again! (My view on Brexit ): 6/27/2016 23:16:48


Major General Smedley Butler
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Russia won't invade Europe because it's military is way too weak and small for such an undertaking.
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