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Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:19:46


Fan the Apostle
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I wobder if Fizzer can look into all the local clan forums. Or would the reporter have to physically send a snapshot to him.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:24:21


[REGL] Pooh 
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@Cata, but before squiggles, who already is banned, reports, would you delete that thread outright?

What value does it add? Its not offensive per se, it is just calling for a public lynching of his profile, which the public can't do. They could report and have a mod review for banning, but bans shouldn't be per popular vote.

So, it has no value other to server as a platform to denigrate squiggles.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:25:29


[REGL] Pooh 
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@ATalking:
Fizzer can do whatever he wants.
I don't know of any moderators that can see either private mail or clan forum threads, hence these can get referred to Fizzer for review.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:26:36


Richard Sharpe 
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@Talking Fan, I think it should be limited to level 56...

@Pooh, I definitely agree with the idea of the delete button getting additional features automatically. I'd even say that it shouldn't be an option for the admin but instead should be automatically triggered after X many deletions within a certain timeframe. Perhaps allow both, manual intervention for the one-off horrible comment and the auto intervention for repeated minor offenses.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:29:12


Benjamin628 
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It really all comes down to maturity, and how people act. Here is the first page of the warlight "All" forum, with a key.

Red = Lack of interest, pointless conversation not worthy of being on warlight.
Orange = Bad attempts at trolling.
Green = Move to the top.


Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:31:11


Wulfhere
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I haven't seen any cancer from SirSalty and Karl actually tries to facilitate political discussion but the hivemind that is the WarLight forums prefers to confirm whatever beliefs they have and call challengers "trolls" "racists" and other buzzwords without trying to understand the arguments.

If you want to ban Karl at least be honest and say "we don't like his beliefs" instead of grouping him in with actual spammers and trolls like 1416.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:32:14


Richard Sharpe 
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Ham or turkey post wasn't trolling... it was rather pointless complaining about Local Deployment but it wasn't trolling.

Half the ones you left blank should be red... Disney shows, post a programming language, animes, code of debate, imperial or metric. All pointless.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:32:43


Fan the Apostle
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The biggest question of all : will Fizzer listen to our suggestions?

No pressure on him let him decide and maybe he will send out a verdict later.

Edited 7/7/2016 20:34:59
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 20:58:36


Benjamin628 
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@Richard, I didn't even look at half of these threads, I just saw that you replied and the title was troll-ish. I tried to be a bit lenient.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 21:52:11


Zoya the Destroya 
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We should use the Reddit model for that. If a user creates too many threads in a row, they get disabled for an hour.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 22:26:18


Richard Sharpe 
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The title was definitely trollish but the single player level he was referencing is named 'Turkey or Ham' so it becomes more understandable.

Schied, post on your real account. I don't respond well to pathetic alts.

Edited 7/7/2016 22:27:21
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 22:49:42


l4v.r0v 
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@Lane: That's what I was thinking. It's not a one-hour disabling but actually varies based on your karma. I have a pretty high-karma account so I never get rate-limited for over 10 minutes (it also varies by subreddit). We could do something similar with levels.

But I doubt Fizzer's gonna implement anything complex here. So just a flat limit of 1 thread/10 minutes and 1 comment/minute should do the trick.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 22:53:43


Lolicon love
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no my keyboard broke I have no clue what to do. so i'm using the on screen keyboard for now.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 23:18:29

Fizzer 
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Honestly I don't think that the thread flooding is a huge issue. It happens rarely, and it's easy for us to clean up. As others have mentioned, a captcha would just slow it down, not eliminate it.

I like the idea of rate-limiting thread creation speed based on levels. For example, low level players can only create 2 threads per week. I want to do it by thread, not by post, since there are more legitimate reasons to post more quickly to a thread (for example, if you're having a back-and-forth discussion with someone).

The real problem is low-value content. People posting things that others just aren't interested in. A few here and there is fine, but when the forum becomes dominated by uninteresting stuff it drives away the people want to be reading the forum.

I may do something about this problem soon. I just have to finish YouTube export and the iOS update first.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/7/2016 23:34:29

snife 
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This is related to the forum and I wanted to mention this somewhere.
If fizzer reads this thread he (you ;) ) might want to change this minor bug.

when looking at the multiplayer tab on pc you also see forum treads to the right.
You may access the latest page of a thread directly by clicking on the time passed since the post was made.
This works for the "normal" forum section, but not for the clan forum overview.
The linking seems to be wrong.
Would be great to fix this. Would improve the forum experience for me :)

back to topic:
I think limiting the amount of creatable threads could be a way to slow this trolling down. I do not think this will stop them, but it will make it more timeconsuming (they have to create more accounts)

Edited 7/7/2016 23:37:43
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/8/2016 02:41:45


Benjamin628 
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The real problem is low-value content. People posting things that others just aren't interested in. A few here and there is fine, but when the forum becomes dominated by uninteresting stuff it drives away the people want to be reading the forum.

1. Thanks for the response!
2. Are there any potential solutions you have in mind for this? Like some kind of thread score system based on age and rating, where you can upvote and downvote (I know reddit comes to mind)
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/8/2016 02:46:37

Pulsey
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Since Benjamin said it earlier - I'm guessing you're referring to my previous post. I don't have 100% certainty that bs and CMU are forum mods - they're just guesses.
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/8/2016 02:52:13


Benjamin628 
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^ ChrisCMU is for sure, he has confirmed, and he's even moved one of my threads after asking him I think :P
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/8/2016 02:57:03


l4v.r0v 
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The real problem is low-value content. People posting things that others just aren't interested in. A few here and there is fine, but when the forum becomes dominated by uninteresting stuff it drives away the people want to be reading the forum.

I may do something about this problem soon. I just have to finish YouTube export and the iOS update first.


It could be worthwhile to create a Quality subforum where mods can either move threads or just approve posters/submitters. It would be a little bit intensive on the moderators' end but would create a place where people can consistently expect high-value content. (Basically the opposite of a Troll/Junk subforum or a more expansive version of featured threads). Perhaps just a level requirement to make things automatic.

Thanks for checking in on this thread even while you're probably getting pulled from all directions.

Edited 7/8/2016 02:58:00
Problems on the Warlight Forum (and Solutions): 7/8/2016 14:37:09


Fan the Apostle
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I like that you need to be at a certain level for it to be auto aproved. Really cuts down spam
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