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Peloponnesian war big map: 7/27/2016 13:24:27


Ranek
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Hi
It seems like your main issue depends on the file size. If you want to fill the entire landmass shown on your sketch with territories you wont even get close to half complete the map. Right now you have less than 20% done, which means your map will have more than 5mb in the end. But if you abandon vast areas you might be good.



Is that count good enough

http://prntscr.com/btyk9d

compaired to this

http://prntscr.com/btc3rr


There are way too many dots. you can easily delete 75% without losing the shape, remember that you can still make manual adjustments after simplifying the shape or manually deleting the points. All those points increase your map size intensively, without adding any benefit. If you dont decrease their number you wont be able to upload the map in the end..

furthermore the frame for Sicily, is another waste of memory size and on top of that it looks incredibly stupid and unreasonable. Its only benefit will be to confuse the player. better follow the recommendation by 1416 and increase the width of your map towards the west.
My last advice: if you use inkscape, save your file as normal svg, not as inkscape svg. this will reduce the memory size by 20% and is even more compatible with the warlight editor.
Peloponnesian war big map: 7/27/2016 20:39:52


apollong3
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All right,let's get answering:

I will not include most of Thrace,parts of South Italy and northern Expirus,and territories of the Persian Empire will be comparable to provinces(the triangle bonuses).I believe If I manage to rework Thebai and use that optimization thing mentioned in another thread,I will be able to do it.

I really do not want to simplify and manually readjust my borders since it will take a lot of time and effort,and will make the map look worse.

Unfortunately,I cannot fit the entirety of sicily I the map due to the size restrictions,so I decided to put it on the side in order to not break it in pieces.The square barely adds any nodes and I can get rid of the text anyways.

I would like to know how to save the file as a regular,non-inkscape svg,could you please inform me?

Edited 7/27/2016 20:40:54
Peloponnesian war big map: 7/27/2016 22:40:39


Ranek
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simply chose the different file-option when you save your svg.
Peloponnesian war big map: 7/28/2016 08:54:51


apollong3
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Thanks :)

Shaved 240 kb by converting it to normal .svg
Peloponnesian war big map: 7/28/2016 19:01:01


apollong3
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Update:

Added Makedonia,Athenian allies in Aitolia and the rest of the Ionian islands.

File is currently at 1.110 kb

Edited 7/28/2016 19:01:06
Peloponnesian war big map: 7/28/2016 19:42:27


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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Looks awesome, keep going. ;)
Peloponnesian war big map: 7/30/2016 11:43:26


apollong3
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So I will be doing all the islands first.It is a fucking pain to find all the Greek names for the west coast of Asia Minor,since most of the maps are in Turkish.Will probably have pretty sparse territoriesin those areas.

Also,I coloured each group of Athenian allies differently.It is not exactly historical,since I prioritize how the map will play out.Let me know what you think
Peloponnesian war big map: 7/31/2016 09:27:26

francisco0002
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Peloponnesian war big map: 7/31/2016 09:42:02

[RE] Lord Kira
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Also try and have more of ship warfare.
Peloponnesian war big map: 7/31/2016 09:49:12


Mudderducker 
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Looks really good, especially for your first map :). I would have personally gone with multiple territory bonuses, but the diplomacy style is still liked by many.

Don't know if you've seen, but this may come in useful somehow (my smaller strategic version): https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=45151
Peloponnesian war big map: 7/31/2016 10:11:08


apollong3
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@francisco0002:Thanks,this map helps a bit,but if you compare it to the size of the territories on my map,the cities are not quite enough.What I meant by the resaerch being a pain is that I couldn't find anything more that the more known ancient cities.

@[RE] Lord Kira:Definitely,I will be putting them once I am finished with the land

@Mudderducker:thanks :).Also check out the first post,I mentioned your map as the only other one with this theme
Peloponnesian war big map: 8/1/2016 19:54:13


apollong3
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Update:Finished Aitolia and the Aegean Islands

file is at 1.370 kb,which is rather promising,considering the inkscape svg one is 1.746 kb
Peloponnesian war big map: 8/4/2016 12:11:28


apollong3
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Update:Finished Athenian Makedonia and Thrake,and put in bonuses for the nations,as well as province bonuses where they were missing.

File is currently at 1,436 kb

I am thinking of putting this in the discription of the map once it is finished:

“At Athens, the Paralos, arriving at night , brought the news of the disaster, and mourning began from Pireaus and reached the City through the Long Walls, as the message passed from mouth to mouth, so that no one slept that night. And they were mourning not only for the lost, but even more so for themselves, convinced they would suffer the same things they have done to the Istiaeans and the Skionians and Toroneans and the Aegineans and the Melians, the colonists of the Spartans (Lakedaemonians) and many more Greeks.”
-Xenophon,Hellenika:2.2.3

Let me give you some context:This is describing the events in Athens after their fleet got crushed in the Aigos Potamous(the Goat Rivers) due to their overconfidence and poor decisions.The Athenian fleet was the biggest advantage they had over the Peloponnesians and the destruction of it was sure to bring their defeat.

The Athenians have also done some pretty naughty things indeed during the course of the war.Namely,if a city state in the Athenian/Delian League had intentions of leaving,the Athenians would raze it to the ground,kill all the men,and sell the women and children to slavery.That also happened to Melos,which,while it was a colony of the Spartans,had remained neutral in the war.

So the Athenians were certain that they would pay for what they have done,even though things turned out a bit more intersting...

If you want more details,just say so.Also,I would like to hear your opinions about how much this would fit into the description of the map :)
Peloponnesian war big map: 8/7/2016 11:18:27


apollong3
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Update:I finished all of Asia Minor,including the Persian Empire(which kinda looks like a mess,but I don't have the willpower to change it)

File size is at 1,618 kb

Please share your opinions as to how much of Thrace I should include.I am thinking of including Epirus,the Paeons and some Illyrians.
Peloponnesian war big map: 8/10/2016 11:10:43


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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Seems fine, but what are Paeons? I googled it and only found flowers. :D
Peloponnesian war big map: 8/10/2016 11:41:45


apollong3
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Macedonian tribes that invaded Makedonia(the state) and got repelled by Philippus II

http://prnt.sc/c3xdna

They are very hard to find on the internet,even if you search it in greek
Peloponnesian war big map: 8/11/2016 12:07:07


apollong3
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Update:So my internet is slow and shitty right now,which means I will have trouble finding the maps I need and uploading will be really slow and infuriating.I might not manage to make any progress today

Edited 8/11/2016 12:07:25
Peloponnesian war big map: 8/21/2016 09:51:32


apollong3
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Update:Epirus is finished
The map is now over 1k territories!

file is at 1,774 kb,which I think has enough room for the rest of it

Not much to go,but changing the bonus value is going to take forever,because the map editor takes ages to change a single bonus(about 20 seconds!),due to the size of the map
Peloponnesian war big map: 8/21/2016 11:01:22


Kain
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1) Use this online tool - it can reduce the size of SVG file by roughly 30-40% without the loss of quality
https://petercollingridge.appspot.com/svg-editor

2) Keep in mind that max file size accepted by WL editor is not 2MB but 2.000.000.bytes which stands for ~1,93MB?

3) I dont know why u intend to make every territory a bonus worth 4 - it makes no sense for at least 3 reasons:
a) all those bonuslinks (already >1000) consume a lot of memory (increase filesize)
b) If anoyone wants to use such setting (+4 income from every territory) he can easily acheive this by using game setting "extra armies for territories"
c) you said:" After all,anyone can disable the territorial bonuses and use the big triangular ones" I am afraid that this is more complicated- if sb donesnt want to have extra 4 armies from each territory it would be a pain in the ass for him to manually change the value of more than 1000 bonuses.... (in fact 99% person would look for another map at this point I suppose)

Edited 8/21/2016 11:09:44
Peloponnesian war big map: 8/21/2016 11:15:48


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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3b is not possible. You can give at max "1 army for every territory"
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