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Cultural values: 7/16/2016 22:23:51


Deutschland
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Cultural values: 7/16/2016 22:36:40


Spenglerian Traditionalist
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You mean aren't muslim? that's what you mean when you say poorly behaved isn't it?
Cultural values: 7/16/2016 22:40:55


Spenglerian Traditionalist
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lol just go back to the middle east if you hate western culture so much.
Cultural values: 7/16/2016 22:42:48


The Lord
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Walking without clothes -> bad manners
Driving over 70 infidels with a truck -> well-behaved

Edited 7/16/2016 22:44:27
Cultural values: 7/16/2016 22:46:49


The Lord
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Who said anything about suicide? And infidels are guilty by default.
Cultural values: 7/16/2016 22:48:20


The Lord
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I guess ppl in Nice forgot to pay Jizya.
Cultural values: 7/16/2016 22:55:37


Spenglerian Traditionalist
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>forcing people to pay a tax for disagreeing with you

so well behaved.
Cultural values: 7/16/2016 22:56:02


Spenglerian Traditionalist
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1416 no one cares about your book of fairytales.
Cultural values: 7/16/2016 22:59:01


Жұқтыру
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Praise be to DONALD JOHN TRUMP. There is no GOD but DONALD JOHN TRUMP.

Where is the vodka in this chart? It is a Polish and Russian cultural value. Where is even any alcohol? These charts suck, they are toilet paper.
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Also, worth noting: in 90's Romania, it was pretty bad off economically, and folk were trying to cut corners on what they could. And so what happened was, that they got some kind of donation of Books from an organisation, and so what happened to most the Books was that they got wielded as toilet paper. "traditional values" down the toilet, literally.

Edited 7/16/2016 23:04:54
Cultural values: 7/16/2016 23:07:34


Paugers
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Allah vs God would be an epic rap battle...
Cultural values: 7/16/2016 23:12:53


(AOE) Manchester United
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God would win because Allah is fake. I would beat Allah...
Cultural values: 7/16/2016 23:50:23


Anglo
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^
Implying God is real.

We should praise the Great Lord Cthulhu!
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 01:25:58


Major General Smedley Butler
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TRUMP is real
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 01:34:46


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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The main issue with jizya that I'm concerned with, is its rate. Also it does not apply to women, short-term visitors and those who do not live in Dar al-Islam (such as Westerners and Indians) right?

Edited 7/17/2016 01:35:32
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 01:42:10


Nitr01
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Who here /traditional survivalist/ and also European Nationalist? All of the states in the upper right corner have dying populations, degenerate values, and are losing their homogeneous ethnic states.

Advancement on the global stage promotes degeneracy. Without the the worry of survival, and with absolute freedom, people will abandon kinship and traditions because more effort can be spend on pursuing the individual. Taken to the extreme, people begin calling themselves "otherkin" and "pansexual" and enjoying cuckoldy. Degenerate states like those of the West eventually collapse and are taken over by more traditional states with more political and cultural unity and higher birthrates. See: Islam in Europe.

Take Islam and the West, and contrast them. I'm not condoning Islam and it's history of aggression but it's a fairly insular, authoritarian, traditional, and Nationalistic ideology. And this model seems to be extremely successful at allowing it to expand and dominate in the modern era. It has a history of stagnation, which has forced Muslims to cling to survival values and traditions as a means of securing resources and coping. Muslims stick up for other Muslims and the religion operates as a whole to impose its values on foreigners (Sharia law in European communities, terrorizing the population into submission). Now the West has a history of prosperity. Westerners can afford to be individuals, they can afford to be homosexuals, pansexuals, cucks, liberals, whatever because they do not need to be as reliant on one another as a group, so they can defy norms and still get economic opportunity.

Now here's why Islam will conquer or at least subvert the West for a while: the West is its own enemy. With great living conditions, the people have no reason to band together. They will destroy each other over the issue of mass immigration. They have been liberal for so long that they no longer consider their survival as a group (the survival of European values and ethnicity) to be important whereas Muslims find it extremely important. Islam has a set of specific values that most of its adherents will support, so they can use their entire population as muscle against whatever the religion condemns.Europeans are too liberal to come to consensus, they don't see each other as a group. So they have little resources to oppose Islamic influence.


In the context of the graph it's generally good to be in the bottom left. It means the culture has respect for itself, the people value kinship instead of pursuing various harmful ideologies, especially welcoming foreigners who aim to subvert. They aren't liberals. However, these cultures have slowed technological and scientific progress. Technological and scientific progress sends a culture up to the upper right region, but at the expense of its survival. Cultures at this stage are near collapse.

The solution is a compromise, a culture should retain its identity and traditions but have some regard for science and technology. This model might be hard to achieve as progress tends to lead to Liberalism but a loving government with the correct individuals in power could likely maintain such a state.
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 02:01:47


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Ethnicity unlike race is not even based on appearance, hence the white and black people in America without an ethnic subgroup can exist. The existence of America tells me that there is no reasonable difference between the German and the English, the Polish and the Russian, hence ethnic conflicts (and actually the very concept of ethnicity) are completely meaningless. Race should be retained for the sole purpose of medical research and genetics without any form of racism (including reverse racism) attached.

I see no reason for a Polish child to be indoctrinated in Polish schools to hate Russia or vice versa hence I propose the very concept of ethnicity get abolished.

Ultimately the only difference between the Middle East and Europe is religion. That's why Lebanese Christians integrate into societies in the West Hemisphere easily. Ultimately Europeans and Arabs will still exist hundreds of years later, with or without Islam. If Europe gets Islamized we won't see an Eurabia just like Christianity did not make all Europeans Jews or Greeks. Europe will always be Europe..just with more Muslim names.

Edited 7/17/2016 02:03:10
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 02:05:04


Spenglerian Traditionalist
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''difference between the German and the English, the Polish and the Russian''

There are major differences between Germans and Russians and Poles and the English.

''Ultimately the only difference''

No, there are racial and cultural differences.

''hat's why Lebanese Christians integrate into societies in the West Hemisphere easily''

Unsourced.

''Ultimately Europeans and Arabs will still exist hundreds of years later''

Dubious.

''Europe will always be Europe''

Delusion if you're implying Europe equates to western. I'm sure the Romans said ''Italia will always be Roman'' and now it isn't.

Edited 7/17/2016 02:06:27
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 03:26:56


Nitr01
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Middle Easterners are not ethnically European. However I concede religion, more specifically values that are part religious and part cultural in general, are the largest divide between Middle Easterners and Christianity.

Middle Eastern Muslims share complete opposite values to European Christians. Middle Easterners will not "become European" simply by living there, because they have different values. Islam does not value liberty, enlightened ideals, or individualism. And their religion is uniquely un-European. I'm not saying that these values that Europeans hold are good, in fact they have allowed this to happen; ideas of liberty and equality cause states to unravel due to ideological divides, identity divides, and destruction of racial and cultural homogenity.

However even traditional European Christian is inherently opposed to Islam. They follow different teachings. Islamic traditions are not European traditions. So Muslims will never become Europe and these groups will never be compatible.
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 03:34:50


Жұқтыру
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thats why we gotta build the khalifa end tha falsitees of christianity

Edited 7/17/2016 16:00:05
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 04:10:47


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Look if Europe converts to Islam voluntarily or under the sword, after several generations native European Muslims will get rid of Middle Eastern regimes that rule over them if these regimes exist. Just like Albania and Bosnia, European and Muslim. They did not become Arabs nor did they become Turks. Iran used to be largely Zoroastrian. Later it was conquered by Arab Muslims. This just produced Iranian Muslims and Iranian Muslim nations, not Arabs and perpetual Arab dominance.

It will be unfortunately the fall of European Christianity but not the fall of Europe...just like Christianity replacing polytheism did not kill Europe and European civilizations. When Europe does not even care about religion any more..then yes it will be Islamized since Muslims do care about religion. Unless Europeans start state Christianity or state atheism, Islam will come because it cares about something Europeans do not.

Unlike Christians in the past who resisted conversion to Islam and paid the heavy jizya, I suspect modern liberals in Europe will just convert to Islam at least nominally so that they can continue to enjoy their lives. The future Islamic regimes in Europe, if existing, likely won't be very hardcore like ISIS but may be more like Mughals (yeah they also killed people but they were not that harsh) so European liberals probably can keep most of their old habits going.

Hence ultimately European peoples and Islam are compatible (look at Bosniaks) because no group is inherently Muslim or anti-Muslim from birth. However the European Christian traditions that are largely lost will finally be over at least temporarily.

Edited 7/17/2016 04:21:34
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 04:21:03


Spenglerian Traditionalist
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''European civilizations''

No such thing before christianity. There was only 1 european civilization before christianity and that was Rome you could count the classical civilization but I don't.

Tabby you're being very jewish in your use of language. You don't deny that western civilization will die if the west becomes a majority muslim but you say a geographical region will survive. No one is implying if islam takes over europe the geographical region will disappear from the earth.
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 04:25:05


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^I do not want European Christianity to die..however it is already largely dead. Unfortunately the same goes for America when I see Ted Cruz not being able to defeat Trump. It can recover though (in America, South Korea, Poland and certain African countries) if people want it to. Greeks, Rome and ancient Germans were all European civilizations, my friend.

Europe and ethnic Europeans will live and be independent..just with more Muslim names unless Europeans start to defend Christianity as opposed to atheism. If Europe becomes more religious it can reproduce more, otherwise there will not be enough Europeans in the future. (The same goes for East Asians who are not breeding a lot either)

Edited 7/17/2016 04:26:35
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 04:28:05


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^^Christianity was and is Jewish. The way rabbis defame Yeshua is completely unfair and their defamation is baseless.(Not obeying rabbis is an offense, seriously?!) The same goes for Gentile inventors of un-Christian traditions. (Just look at the holidays) Rabbinical Jews have their own long list of weird traditions. I personally wish Jewish Christianity is actually true and all extra religious traditions within Judeo-Christianity die.

EDITED: Please do not misunderstand me. Clarification below.

Edited 7/17/2016 05:00:43
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 04:49:17


GeneralPE
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Reported tabby for saying all non jews/Christians should die
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 04:57:07


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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What?! I never said that in this thread!
Oh I see you misunderstood me. I mean extra religious tradition in Judeo-Christianity should die since they are illogical. Not people..nor religions.

Edited 7/17/2016 04:59:45
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 07:50:56


Spenglerian Traditionalist
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>Germans
>Civilized
lol
>Greeks
>White
lol

Again you dodged my point entirely. You no qualms about western civilization dying, you also have no qualms about whites dying. Your judaism is showing.
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 17:26:44


GeneralPE
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Don't think I reported you to fiZzer either - the fbi are onto you
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 18:56:30


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^You were just bullying me. I will report you.

I did not say anything prosecutable so?

Edited 7/17/2016 19:02:14
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 19:00:26


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^^If you truly cared about European pride as you claim to have, you wouldn't have said that pre-Christian European civilizations do not count. If you truly cared about European Christianity you wouldn't have said these things about the largely Muslim Albanians and Ottomans (seriously you should have defended Serbs instead if you truly are some right-wing Christian).

Are you just pretending to be a fascist while in reality you are just messing with us, may I ask? A true fascist is consistent.

European birth rate has to increase and unite to preserve a secular Europe. Europe needs to increase its birth rate, re-Christianize and unite if you want a Christian Europe.

Edited 7/17/2016 19:05:34
Cultural values: 7/17/2016 19:03:31


VAPE NAYSH YALL
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walking without clothes in public has nothing to do with culture.
Allah knows best.
Where is the vodka in this chart?
I would beat Allah...
TRUMP is real
Sharia law in European communities
I suspect modern liberals in Europe will just convert to Islam at least nominally so that they can continue to enjoy their lives.
welcoming foreigners who aim to subvert. They aren't liberals.
>Greeks
>White
lol
Reported tabby for saying all non jews/Christians should die
I did not say anything prosecutable so?
pretending to be a fascist
European birth rate has to increase.

OP I'm confused. Is this thread for serious meaningless & time-wasting political/cultural debate or just for shitposting?

EDIT: Put in two more gems from Tabby's post.

Edited 7/17/2016 19:04:37
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