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Prove WL have freedom of speech | A Challenge: 7/31/2016 02:14:25


Eklipse
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"Freedom of Speech as per the first amendment applies only to the United States Government. Private institutions have every right to shut you up for spouting rude, hateful nonsense.

Absolutely false. The government also has to protect your rights from being violated by other citizens, otherwise it wouldn't be able to enforce ANY laws at all.

This type of logic is like saying, "Protection against discrimination only applies to the United States government. Private institutions have every right to discriminate based on race. "
Prove WL have freedom of speech | A Challenge: 7/31/2016 02:17:25


Imperator
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I've actually observed that there is a pretty nice amount of freedom of speech here on wl. I'm a pretty radical guy, and I haven't yet been banned or even warned for openly saying exactly what I think on the forums or in my maps.

I mean I hear all the time that people get banned for basic stuff, but it's just not something I've observed personally.
Prove WL have freedom of speech | A Challenge: 7/31/2016 02:32:54

Omniscient 
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"Absolutely false. The government also has to protect your rights from being violated by other citizens, otherwise it wouldn't be able to enforce ANY laws at all."

No, that's absolutely not how the first amendment works. At all.

Go read up on it before trying to talk down to others. You're an uneducated idiot.

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/faq/frequently-asked-questions-assembly

Do individuals have First Amendment rights on others’ private property?

Generally no. The Bill of Rights provides protection for individual liberty from actions by government officials. This is called the state-action doctrine. Private property is not government-owned. Restrictions on individuals’ free-speech rights on private property do not involve state action.

However, a few states have interpreted their own state constitutions to provide even greater free-speech protection than the federal Constitution offers. For example, the New Jersey Supreme Court has ruled that individuals have free-speech rights at privately owned shopping malls. Most state supreme courts that have examined the issue have disagreed. In April 2002, the Iowa Supreme Court refused to extend its definition of public property to include large, privately owned shopping malls.


Websites are considered private property.
Prove WL have freedom of speech | A Challenge: 7/31/2016 02:35:32


Eklipse
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Now you resort to insults. Who's talking down to who here?

Sounds like you're just an angry man with a weak position. If you can't even remain civil I won't bother debating with you.

You're powerless anyways. This isn't your site, and nothing you say will ever stop us from discussing what we please. Have fun grasping for power you can't have.

Edited 7/31/2016 02:35:51
Prove WL have freedom of speech | A Challenge: 7/31/2016 02:37:34

Omniscient 
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i believe the proper way to frame your post is:

You're right. I am uneducated. I don't know what I'm talking about, but I'm going to continue to ignore facts and make up random bullshit instead, because hey, my opinions important to me, it doesn't matter if it's been proven false in the court of law repeatedly.
Prove WL have freedom of speech | A Challenge: 7/31/2016 02:42:36


Eklipse
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More insults and personal attacks.

Nice try, but I'm not going to play that game. You still have no power here, btw.

Also, you're calling me uneducated but your post has several grammatical errors. Don't lecture me about education when you don't even know proper English.

Edited 7/31/2016 02:43:14
Prove WL have freedom of speech | A Challenge: 7/31/2016 14:51:37


OnlyThePie
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"Sounds like you're just an angry man with a weak position. If you can't even remain civil I won't bother debating with you."

Except he provided a bunch of evidence, so his position isn't weak at all. He's angry because you're sticking your head in your ass and refusing to listen to sense.
Prove WL have freedom of speech | A Challenge: 8/3/2016 13:01:19


ps 
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my opinion is that you're stupid.
Prove WL have freedom of speech | A Challenge: 8/4/2016 18:52:33


Remove Kebab
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@Omniscient I'm reporting you.

Everyone report him lol.

Banning political discussions? Nah discussion is good for he community.

AND

Banning something doesn't make it go away, just like banning guns doesn't stop gun crimes, or if there are no guns, knives will replace it. Prohibition is an example of two bannin somethings works, it doesn't work.

People would still talk about politics somehow and regulating it would be almost impossible to do.
Prove WL have freedom of speech | A Challenge: 8/4/2016 21:55:51


Cata Cauda
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(I didnt read what everyone said)

WL has no freedom of speech, because its a PRIVATE site.
The owner can do whatever he wants on his private property.
If you disagree with this, kindly leave this site and stop bothering the ones who just wanna enjoy this game.
Prove WL have freedom of speech | A Challenge: 8/4/2016 22:04:18

andrew
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What is up with his grammar though?
Prove WL have freedom of speech | A Challenge: 8/5/2016 00:13:39


Major General Smedley Butler
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WL has no freedom of speech, because its a PRIVATE site.
The owner can do whatever he wants on his private property.
If you disagree with this, kindly leave this site and stop bothering the ones who just wanna enjoy this game.


If free speech can be achieved in some way here, that's better than not.
Prove WL have freedom of speech | A Challenge: 8/5/2016 02:23:54

andrew
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I think that all of you need to calm down. Stop being dicks to each other.
Prove WL have freedom of speech | A Challenge: 8/5/2016 02:39:02


Cata Cauda
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^
We are trying to, but some people really demand it....
Prove WL have freedom of speech | A Challenge: 8/5/2016 02:48:19


Eklipse
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It's arrogant right-wingers slinging mud against arrogant left-wingers. There is no such thing as calm.
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