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AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/17/2016 04:31:28


Ekstone 
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Hello,

please help to find the best templates for the 12 (four Grand Slam and eight Masters 1000) major Tour events.

Based on the latest official ladder poll by Fizzer (https://www.warlight.net/Forum/151334-official-ladder-poll-results) and checked the templates used by other popular series so far (Clan League, WSOW, etc.) I collected 25 templates:My questions:
  • 1) Did I miss some popular strategical templates?
    If you think yes then please write here not only it's name but a game link too.
  • 2) Which should be the four Grand Slam templates in your opinion?
    imo, very important the variety in case of these 4 templates, so if somebody will reach the Grand Slam (win all the four Grand Slam) that will mean he can win in 4 different settings, not only one type.
    Enough if you write the first two digits of the list above (e.g. 08 = Strategi Phobia, 12 = Qina, etc.) or if you think we should use a templates which isn't in the list above, write here not only it's name but a game link too please.
  • 3) Which should be the eight Masters 1000 templates in your opinion?
    Enough if you write the first two digits of the list above (e.g. 08 = Strategi Phobia, 12 = Qina, etc.) or if you think we should use a templates which isn't in the list above, write here not only it's name but a game link too please.
  • 4) Should I do some changes in the settings of the templates above (or totally remove any)?
    For example:
    • 01 - old 1 v 1 Ladder - Strat ME 16% WR instead of 0% WR?
    • 04 - Season XIV - Guiroma 0% SR instead of 16% SR?
    • Remove the LD templates and/or the commanders one?
    • The team templates with ALTS, is it a good idea?
    • etc.
Thank you very much for your time and help in advance!
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/17/2016 04:48:55


Ekstone 
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My (example) answers:
  • 1) No, you didn't.
  • 2) 01, 02, 14, 07 (or 25 if the team events with ALTS will be very popular)
  • 3) 03, 04, 05, 06, 08, 10, 20, 25 (or 07 (or 09 if the team events won't be popular at all))
  • 4) remove the commanders template, change Guiroma 0% SR instead of 16% SR
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/17/2016 06:36:01

Arkanton
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1) No, you didn't :D
2) 09, 11, 20, 25
3) 02, 03, 04, 05, 08, 12, 14, 24
4) remove all LD, it will take ages

games with alts are great idea

How you will choose templates for Masters 1000? I mean I vote for example 09 for Grand Slam but if this template won't be used I would like to see it in Masters 1000. So should I put most favourite templates in both?
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/17/2016 09:59:17


Ekstone 
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I don't know yet how I will exactly choose the 12 major event templates, but based on the majority wish (which will be written here, I hope :D ) for sure. And of course, a vote for a Grand Slam template will mean more (when I will summarize the votes) than a vote for a Masters 1000 one.

But please everybody, make your Grand Slam votes not simple according to your favorite templates (or based on some vote tactic purpose :P ), but pay attention that those four templates should be really the best ones (= the most popular and the possible most varied also)

And you are right Arkanton, the 3rd Tour event (LD France) is really slow, so I am sad, because I wanted an LD major events too (even a Grand Slam :O) but seems won't be any LD major event :(
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/17/2016 10:09:30


Buns157 
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@ekstone that event is only taking ages because Mod and Ven took really long vacations, with Ven also doing every turn except one in over 2 days.

LD isn't the problem for the slow progress in that tournament, so don't write off LD just yet :P

I will probably edit answers in for the questions later.
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/17/2016 10:42:32


PanagiotisTheGreekFreak
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1)Probably not
2)06,14,23,25 (For variety)
3)02,03,04,05,10,11,12,18
4)No,but I think a template should be implemented.It is Gelvien Islands: https://www.warlight.net/Map/7055-Gelvien-Islands

Here's a tourney: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=19409
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/17/2016 11:20:52


dry-clean-only
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If you put in templates that required Alts wouldn't that mean lots of people will have to create Alts and make it much harder to sort out invitations ??

(Or am I the only person that doesn't have any Alts here..??)
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/18/2016 01:24:24


Pushover 
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1. You missed 2v2 Medium Earth 0% SR with alts. There are several variations on strategic phobia. There is a neat pure skill variation of Turkey with less base income that I like a lot if you want me to dig it up. The non-multiattack Snow Mountains is a good template. Sze made some nice medium earth variations, including fast earth and slow earth. As for maps, what about Macro Land, Final Fantasy VII, Yin'angzhou, Pangea Ultima, Warhammer, Macedonia? This is an interesting template as well: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=18719

2. 01, 03, 04 (but with 0% SR), and 05. Why? These are historically the most popular templates that are played by the most people. I'm okay if you swap out 03 and 04 for different templates but I think you must keep 01 and 05 under any circumstances. 01 is too well known and 05 is too good a strategic template.

3. 02, 06, 07 (or a typical strategic template on France), 08, 10, 11 (but with 0% WR), 14 (either MA or strategic), 19 (or 18 but i prefer LD on this map). Templates picked for variety and strategic value. But this said, I think you are missing out on a lot of possibilities, especially some of Sze's more adventurous templates.

4. I don't think templates with alts are a good idea. Keep it 1v1 for simplicity.
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/18/2016 03:18:11


Mr. Nobody
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Sorry I missed the latest 500 tourney. Invite me to the next one when it opens up.
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/18/2016 07:52:35


Ekstone 
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OMG, very different proposals so far :O
It will be nice task to merge them :D

@dry-clean-only
Yes, playing on that team event with alts you will need a level 3 alt (btw, it is simple imo, create one with fake e-mail address then win 3 auto games and done).
And yes, I expect that the event won't start quickly, I am sure will be players who will join to other players' team instead of his alt :D This is why that tourney won't be autosart one.
But we'll see how it will go in practice. Already written here positive and negative opinions :)

@Pushover
If you can write here game links too for the templates you wrote about it would be cool (except Macro Land, it will be the next event :) )

@Mr. Nobody
I can't promise I will give you a wild card, but write me the time which ok for you to join on next Wednesday then I will send the invitations in that time :)

Edited 8/18/2016 07:54:50
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/18/2016 08:11:32


Pushover 
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remind me if i don't reply soon, though some of these i don't have offhand. it would be nice if an oldbie could provide sze's and gui's templates.

Edited 8/18/2016 08:12:55
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/19/2016 15:06:23


Oh
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1; yes (Macedonia No Split https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11758084 , dense fog and no split), no idea how popular it is but it might be a nice one (at least one that I like)

2; 1,2,24/25 and 7/14/21 or perhaps macedonia no split :P,

that way you have old and new 1v1 ladder templates, a teamtemplate and something unusual with LD, MA, No Split or French brawl (which also plays quite a bit differently)

3; 3,4,5,6,22,23, 24/25 that isn't used in a grand slam and 7/14/21/macedonia no split that isn't used in a grand slam,

that way you have a lot of the more famous/popular maps and a few variations :)

4; no idea :P
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/19/2016 18:04:43


Beren • apex 
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1)

2) 01 (Strat ME 0% WR), 02 (Strat MME 0% SR), 04 (Guiroma 16% SR), MA Battle Islands.

I think it makes sense to have both old and new ladders as majors (even though the old ladder is obviously superior :P). An MA template could serve as a different "surface" like the clay in the French Open, and Battle Islands is my favourite MA template. Then the 4th should be a standard popular and widely played template. I like Guiroma, but I think Greece, Battle Islands (if it's not chosen as the MA template), or GME III would be good choices here as well.

3) The 8 Masters 1000 should be whichever of the above ones I mentioned you don't choose as Majors plus Greece (05), Battle Islands (03), GME III (15), Turkey LD (19), French Brawl (07), Final Fantasy VII, Poland (20), and China (10).

4) I think doing alt team games is a bad idea, since most people probably don't check their alt regularly and it makes playing from mobile very annoying.

I like Guiroma better with 16% SR than 0% SR, since we have in distribution neutrals of 4, and 6v4 isn't guaranteed in 16% SR. It changes the game a little bit.

Edited 8/19/2016 18:07:19
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/19/2016 23:28:53

rakleader
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1)The list seems to be missing a Small Earth template. :)
There's the one from the P/R League, Small Earth: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11338016
And if we're going for variety, there's Small Earth with Bomb Card and Commander: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11726637

2) 01,02,06, and 07 for variety.

3) 03, 04, 05, 08, 11, 14 or another MA template, 19 or another LD template, 23/Small Earth with Bomb Card and Commander or another commander template

4)Keep the commanders, keep the local deployment. (As long as it's not in the same template...^^).
While I'm not a fan of LD, I believe it's an important feature of the game and one major event of the Tour should be played on it. And I agree with Buns, I don't think LD tournaments will last longer than the others.

Also, I would probably replace alt tournaments with team tournaments.
On paper, 2v2 or 3v3 tournaments with alts is a good idea. It'll be like 1v1 tournaments with restrictions, kinda like local deployment. But I'm worried it will be a mess, to organize and to play.
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/20/2016 19:18:36


Nackickwind
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1) I think people before me already pushed forward some very good templates.
2) 01, 06, 09, 24
3) 08, 13, 14, 17, 19, 20, 22, 25
4) No improvements to add.
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/20/2016 19:18:37


Nackickwind
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1) I think people before me already pushed forward some very good templates.
2) 01, 06, 09, 24
3) 08, 13, 14, 17, 19, 20, 22, 25
4) No improvements to add.
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/21/2016 05:02:27


Ekstone 
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Thank you very much for your answers!

I have not many time now, so I only copy here the answers which sent by mail, later I will write more.
  • almosttricky
    I like battle islands and Turkey LD.
  • Hades
    2) 25, 09, 06, 03
  • INSIDE
    1. No
    2. 02 + 03 + 04 + 06
    3. No opinion
    4. 01 - old 1 v 1 Ladder - Strat ME 16% WR instead of 0% WR?
    04 - Season XIV - Guiroma 0% SR instead of 16% SR?
  • Krzysztof
    maybe not direct answers to your questions, but:
    - i like idea of variety with grand slam, so my i would go for something with LD, MA(Snow Mountains?), Poland of 1v1 Ladder.
    - i don't like the idea of alts games (too much mess with it)
    - i would use the most popular templates for Master 1000 (current 1v1 ladder(as old is in grand slam), guiroma, treasure island, etc - can't say exactly which are popular:P)
    - i would keep commanders, at least for lower tourneys, ld is also fine, maybe even add No-Split (also, at least for 250 or 500 tourney)
  • Timinator :)
    Fuck LD and Fuck commanders!
  • FlyingBender
    1+2)Old 2v2 ladder is very strategical and isn't in the list both SR 0 luck and 16% weighted luck. (If required I provide links). Reguarding list seems all 1v1 is completed by many templates. Despite it seems to me there are not any multiattack templates and is a miss if you want to provide every kind of setings.
    So Slams require: Multiattack, Multiattack and local deploy (example seasonal ladder), Local deploy + commander (as seasonal ladder and RT ladder), Local deploy on Turkey and strategical 1v1 are fine.
    2v2 and 3v3 could be ok but hard to manage with so much people to handle with and it willl need extra points to achieve managing more then 1 account).

    3)8 templates should be (even if I don't like them all the settings) a good mix in point 1-2.
    Multiattack, french with extra armies per territory, LD, LD+commander, old 2v2 with alts, 3v3 eu with alts, strat 1v1 (weight luck duo is more strategical, other is just a growing issue) and red dead redemption (random move order). All templates I write have big differences.

    4)Despite having alts is acceoted is still in opposite to the warlight laws so You should first ask to Fizzer before make it official otherwise he could be pissed off (even if huge creations of accounts will make him enlarge the volume of Warlight itself).
    Also some Fog based template could be worth on being add on the list.
  • Buns157
    1) I dont think you have, unless people count strat turkey as a main one (I wouldn't it is hardly played anymore)
    2) 01 (counting that as the one we have already done), 05 (Greece). The other two I'm not sure about, actually maybe 20 (poland)
    3) 02, 03, 04, 05, 08, 12, 14, 24 (I trust arkantons judgement :p)
    4) I think its all good, except a grad slam shouldnt be a 3v3 with alts. That would be alot of work which will probably not appeal to everyone.
  • Uki
    1. i dont know if its popular but i like those too:

    - Discovery https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10624298 ;
    - Discovery 2 https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11160892 ;
    - 1v1 Final Fant VII 3x4 0% WR https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=18991
    - (maybe less strategic ) Rise of Rome manual 4x5sr https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10975100

    2. 1,3,4,7 :)
    3. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,24 :)
    4. remove LD and comanders :):)
  • ACL Tears
    01, 03, 17, and 19 would be my vote. Thanks. Though I would prefer Snow Mountains 0% SR without multiattack like from the Seasonal Ladder.
  • [WG]Reza
    As you know I have just recently come back to warlight so I am not too familiar with all the templates but I dont think commanders is a good idea or teams with ALTS - i.e. some people cant be bothered with lats
Thx again!
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/21/2016 11:36:42


Don [ Ω ]
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1) No you didnt :-)

2) 01/07/10/21

3) 23/06/05/08/12/03/04/13


Cheers :-)
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/21/2016 13:29:16


Ekstone 
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Some update from my mails:
  • Timinator
    Season XXIV was boring too. too brawly and bonuses aren't well shaped for that kind of fighting.
    and keep poland out, rather unpopular amongst good players.
    I'll check if you missed out on sth later :P
  • 13CHRIS37
    I am not too picky on what templates are included or not. I feel any well rounded player should be able to adjust to any settings even if it is their first time playing and that seems to be the goal of the rankings. I play a lot of scrabble (many different settings) and can always find an open game. It would be fun to see a 250 event for that.

    For the Grand Slams I would keep it simple and current. 1v1 ladder settings or RT ladder settings. Keep older ladder and completed seasonal for the 1k templates.
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/21/2016 20:17:12


Holdway
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With regards to the team games, would it be possible to allow tour players to team up and have both/all three players score equal points, so that we don't have to make teams of alts?
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/22/2016 08:07:40


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1)
2) Any of them I guess
3) Which should be the eight Masters 1000 templates in your opinion?
Enough if you write the first two digits of the list above (e.g. 08 = Strategi Phobia, 12 = Qina, etc.) or if you think we should use a templates which isn't in the list above, write here not only it's name but a game link too please.
4)
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/24/2016 03:36:06


Ekstone 
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Updates from my mails:
  • FlyingBender
    2) 12 - 25 - 02 - 17

  • MoD
    The first templates are all cool and enjoyable for me. All 1vs1 after #19 turkey ld are rather bad and i might not join them (france ld excluded). There is no space for commander in competitive events. Turkey ld can make up for very long boring games and europe 1vs1 is a simple and to a big part luck based template (see the example game). I don't like poland but maybe there are players that like it. It's not that awful

    The teamgames are very special. Maybe consider allowing players to join with other players instead of alts? I'd prefer not to log in and out on alts, mainly because i use the app.

    1st question: What about the world of warhammer as repacement for one of the templates above? (Link coming). Also battle islands multiattack is pretty popular (Link)

    2nd question: i like 1, 2, 7 and battle islands/snowy mountains as 4th template.

    3rd question: feel free to do as you please. Please no commander but maybe also consider using the templates of the grand slams again for the Masters 1000.

    4th question: remove turkey ld, commander, poland, europe nc. I didn't check all games for settings that don't fit the original templates, but i hope you got them right.

AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/24/2016 03:53:48


Ekstone 
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Well, your answers were, hmm, very varied formats :P
But I tried to summarize them tried to use a common point system for them :O
Grand Slam votes are 2 points, Masters votes are 1 points, and -1 points if you wrote about a template should remove. There are fragment points too, if you choose more than 4 Grand Slam templates for example.

So the standing so far (you can find the detailed points I used, beetwen the brackets after the points):
  • 01 - old 1 v 1 Ladder - Strat ME 0% WR
    25,2 (2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+1+2+2+1+1,2+2)
  • 02 - new 1 v 1 Ladder - Strat MME 0% SR
    23,2 (2+1+1+1+2+2+2+2+1+1+1+2+1,2+2+2)
  • 03 - Season V - Battle Islands V 0% SR
    22,5 (1+1+1+2+1+0,3+1+1+2+2+2+1+2+1+2+1+1,2)
  • 04 - Season XIV - Guiroma 16% SR
    17,3 (1+1+1+2+1+1,1+1+2+1+1+2+1+1+1,2)
  • 06 - Real-time Ladder - Treasure Map
    17,2 (1+2+1+1+2+2+2+2+1+1+1+1,2)
  • 05 - Real-time Ladder - Strategic Greece
    14,5 (1+1+1+2+1+0,3+1+1+2+1+1+1+1,2)
  • 07 - Season XXII - French Brawl
    13,75 (2+1+0,5+0,25+1+2+2+1+2+2)
  • 14 - Snow Mountains MA
    12,45 (2+1+2+1+0,5+0,25+0,5+1+1,1+1+1,2+0,9)
  • 08 - Strategic Phobia
    8,2 (1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1,2)
  • 09 - Post-Melt Antarctica
    8,2 (1+2+2+2+1,2)
  • 20 - Season XV - Poland
    8 (1+2+1+1+2+2-1)
  • 11 - Real-time Ladder - East Asia and Oceania 0% SR
    6,2 (2+1+1+1+1,2)
  • 10 - Real-time Ladder - China
    6 (1+1+1+1+2)
  • 12 - Qina
    6 (1+1+1+1+2)
  • Battle Island MA
    4,5 (2+0,5+0,9+1,1)
  • 17 - Season XXIV - Red Dead Redemption SR
    4 (1+2-1+2)
  • 19 - Season XII - Turkey LD
    3,4 (-1+1+0,5+1+2+0,9-1-1+2-1)
  • 18 - Turkey No LD
    3,2 (1+1+1,2)
  • 25 - 3 v 3 Ladder WITH ALTS!
    2,6 (2+2-1-1+1,1+0,5-1-1+1+2-1-1-1+2-1)
  • 15 - GME III
    2,5 (0,3+1+1,2)
  • 13 - British Raj
    2 (1+1)
  • 21 - Real-time Ladder - France LD
    1,35 (-1+0,5+0,25+0,5+1,1-1-1+2)
  • 16 - Legi's Black Sea
    1,2 (1,2)
  • 22 - Europe NC
    1 (1+1-1)
  • Final Fantasy VII
    1 (1)
  • Snow Mountains seasonal ladder settings
    1 (1)
  • Macedonia no split
    0,75 (0,5+0,25)
  • 23 - Season XXIII - Commanders on MME
    0,5 (2+1+0,5-1-1-1+1-1)
  • 24 - new 2 v 2 Ladder - Final Earth WITH ALTS!
    -0,6 (1-1-1+0,9+0,5-1-1+2-1+1+1-1-1)
  • Small Earth with Bomb Card and Commander
    -3,5 (-1+0,5-1-1-1)
I will write my thoughts later.
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/24/2016 22:17:57


Pushover 
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templates not part of the initial list you provided will be biased against because most people wouldn't know they could have voted for it.
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/25/2016 08:49:20


Ekstone 
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You are right, and I know this.
But most of those templates are not belong to the most popular ones imo.

I think, there are three important things when we choose the Tour templates, the templates should be:
  • strategical
  • popular
  • varied
And this is the order for the different Tour event type too.

I mean, all Tour event templates must be strategical, this is the fund, it applies to every Tour type (starting from 250 Series ending to Grand Slams)

The popularity of the templates is important mainly for the 12 major events.
I mean, we can use less popular templates for 250 Series events (even for 500 Series events (but need little more popular ones)), but for major events we need the most popular templates.

And finally, the variety is important mainly for the four Grand Slam events, because if somebody will reach the Grand Slam (win all the four Grand Slam) that will mean he can win in 4 different settings, not only one type.

Eh, I hate my weak English... I cannot write what I want :(

Try again :D
I wrote in a table what important for the different Tour event levels imo:
  • 250 Series
    strategical (only this)
  • 500 Series
    strategical and popular enough
  • Masters 1000
    strategical and the most popular ones
  • Grand Slam
    strategical, the most popular ones and varied enough
Most posted new templates here are simple not belong to the most popular category (maybe am I wrong?) so not important now (choosing the 12 major event templates).


Ok, we should go step by step, so first try only choose the four Grand Slam templates.
Based on the received votes and opinions so far, I think the old 1v1 ladder will be the one of the four Grand Slam, this is not a question. So we need only three more :)

I decided that later I will start a team series without alts with separated team rankings just like in the tennis (the ATP doubles rankings), so I fold the team major events with alts idea.

Because the importance of variety, I made three different voting group, we should choose only one from all of them.
  • very popular SR templates
    • A1 - 02 - new 1 v 1 Ladder - Strat MME 0% SR
    • A2 - 03 - Season V - Battle Islands V 0% SR (don't choose this with C2)
    • A3 - 04 - Season XIV - Guiroma 16% SR or 0% SR (please choose here the luck % too!)
    • A4 - 06 - Real-time Ladder - Treasure Map
  • a little bit different templates
    • B1 - 05 - Real-time Ladder - Strategic Greece
    • B2 - 07 - Season XXII - French Brawl (don't choose this with C4)
    • B3 - 20 - Season XV - Poland
    • B4 - Macedonia (choose not standard settings here too :) )
  • MA or LD
    • C1 - 14 - Snow Mountains MA
    • C2 - Battle Island MA (don't choose this with A2)
    • C3 - 19 - Season XII - Turkey LD
    • C4 - 21 - Real-time Ladder - France LD (don't choose this with B2)


So now, I am waiting for 3 votes, one from different group (AX, BX, CX) plus one optional veto note for the template you don't want at all (so not necessary but maximum 1 veto vote :P)

And of course, I am open for any changes in this vote system if you think it should change, just write here.

Edited 8/26/2016 07:39:56
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/25/2016 10:51:13

rakleader
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Actually, rather than change the vote system... I think it would be better if you got rid of it entirely and chose the templates by yourself.^^

It is your league, and you've done a really awesome job of organizing it and picking good templates so far.
Based on your previous messages, for example your last one, you clearly have a vision for this league. And the best way to make it come true is to be a dictator, not let the people vote. :p
I'm not saying you shouldn't listen to our opinion. You can ask us which templates we like, which ones we don't like, which ones we could add to the Tour.... but ultimately, I think you should make all the calls.

If you let us vote, I'm worried we'll all end up with the same popular templates, the ones from the 1v1 and real-time ladders.
Take the B templates for example. I have never played on Poland or Macedonia so I would end up voting for Strategic Greece or French Brawl, and I don't think I'm the only one in this position.
I love Strategic Greece, it's a great template. But perhaps Poland and Macedonia are great too, and closer to the idea you have for your tour. :)
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/25/2016 16:14:17


Beren • apex 
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I agree completely with rakleader. It's great that you ask for our input, but you shouldn't feel constrained by it. Do what you think makes the most sense.
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/26/2016 07:35:17


Ekstone 
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Ok, then I decided it alone, so the four Grand Slam templates will be:
Just because I am the COMMANDER! :D

Joke aside, I would like if the Tour would be OUR league instead of simple my league.
With the possible maximum fun for everybody :)
And I know it can't be absolutely perfect for everyone, but we can try to reach the possible best situation ;)

And yes, I have a vision, but I am not sure at all that it is a perfect one.

And the real problem, that I really can't choose alone which should be the four Grand Slam templates :O
This is why I create (along my vision, with the three categories) this last vote.

So if you have freetime for this, please give me your short 4 votes (AX, BX, CX and if you want ONE veto votes too for any of the 12 above)


Already 1 vote received, Panagiotis sent by mail:
I choose Treasure Map,French Brawl,France LD.Btw I do not want Poland at all :D
Ah, I forgot to write that shouldn't choose French Brawl and France LD parallel (same map, just like Battle Islands)

Well, I try to do my votes too (very hard decisions :O )

A2, B1, C1 and no veto vote
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/26/2016 09:46:33


tomjh
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A1, C3, B1

Veto: B2

Edited 8/26/2016 09:50:59
AWP World Tour - the 12 major event templates: 8/26/2016 13:48:28


Ekstone 
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Thx for your vote tomjh!

Panagiotis corrected his votes:
I choose Treasure Map,Greece,France LD.Btw I do not want Poland at all
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