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Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 10:32:04


Wally Balls 
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Or are we witnessing the end of the Republican Party?

If so, he did indeed Make America Great Again.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 10:36:20


Major General Smedley Butler
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Goods from them not recovering:The GOP is dead

Bads: This might turn into a one party dictatorship
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 10:43:33


Wally Balls 
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Conservatives wouldn't all join the Democratic Party. The Libertarian Party has been picking up steam, they might go there.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 10:45:36


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If so, he did indeed Make America Great Again.

A slave holding one party state is great?
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 10:46:43


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Conservatives wouldn't all join the Democratic Party. The Libertarian Party has been picking up steam, they might go there.

Yes, if enough flock there intially, it might trigger most of the non-Trumpite's to go there.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 10:54:08


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A lot of Libertarians support Trump. Most of his supporters are just anti-status quo dimwits. Trump doesn't even have a platform or any issues beyond immigration and China. It's not like his supporters have some strong shared ideology.

Edited 8/17/2016 10:55:04
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 11:01:39


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Trump doesn't even have a platform or any issues beyond immigration and China.

Libertarians for Trump mostly support him for his stance on stopping the ridiculous stand off with Russia.

Anyway, keep being edgy with Knyte about how you support Clinton.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 11:28:05


Wally Balls 
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Clinton is going to win in a historic landslide. And supporting here is edgy? That doesn't even make sense.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 11:28:57


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She's crushing Trump so hard she's going to win Texas. All those edgy Texans.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 11:34:28


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Clinton is going to win in a historic landslide. And supporting here is edgy? That doesn't even make sense.


Most people dislike her and it's rising.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 12:13:39


Wally Balls 
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Who said anything about liking her? What is she a Facebook status or a Presidential candidate?

Let's move the goalposts back to where they were: supporting her.

As I said, she's going to win in a historic landslide. By definition, supporting her is not edgy.

Edited 8/17/2016 12:15:06
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 12:32:38


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Probably not. Most Americans (~60%) disagree with Democrap's policies. The problem is the GOP people hate you if you don't 100% agree with him.

Donald Trump is doing something good if both parties hate him. Then again, he is still an idiot.

Edited 8/17/2016 12:37:36
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 13:02:03


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Who said anything about liking her? What is she a Facebook status or a Presidential candidate?

This is politics, and if public perception of you is poor and the majority are voting for you to keep another candidate that's seen as worse, one, people are going to be drawn away from you easier (in the case of Bake The Cake Johnson getting more former Clinton supporters than Trump supporters) and if you do manage to win (this isn't "historic, other presidents have done better), you're going to be at a huge risk of losing the reelection, because few supported you for you and your policies, and instead supported you against another candidate.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 13:18:54


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Yes you're right that people will be drawn away from her easily. That's why a lot of Democrats supported Bernie and now came back to her. But it's not the ideology they dislike, it's just her. Obama is popular. The Democratic Party platform is popular. That shouldn't change.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 13:22:45


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I think policy-wise, he clearly fits on conservative lines, but I think many Amercan conserves don't like him since he is too rash and too racist/fop (banning all Muslims, despite most having lower killrates than Americans? and they can't just lie?).
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 14:14:31


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As I said, she's going to win in a historic landslide


There's not much potential for too spectacular of a landslide either way. Here are the "swingy" states:

http://www.270towin.com/maps/njxpx

Here light states are states where the leading candidate is ahead by less than 5%, whereas slightly darker states are 5-12% leads.

Even if clinton grabs all the light/less light red states, trump still gets 108 electoral votes, which would put him at... Umm the 34th lowest electoral vote count in history.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 14:59:28


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It's getting worse for Trump all the time though. He's probably going to win Texas, that map has it pink.

He just hired the Breitbart CEO to run his campaign, he's going full batshit. Watch these polls get worse and worse and worse.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 15:19:45


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This iteration of the GOP (an uneasy coalition between business conservatives, evangelicals, working-class whites with high racial resentment, etc.) is probably dead. I don't see the Libertarian party becoming the replacement- probably just a new GOP coalition. The last third party to replace a major party was the GOP in 1858 with the collapsed Whigs- not just electorally routed but internally collapsed and lacking a common ideology that could hold them together. This was a very special case. Since then, all routed parties gave just updated their coalitions. Libertarianism just isn't nearly as compelling as abolitionism was in the 1850's.

There's a whole lot of room for the GOP to pick up a new coalition- conservative Hispanic Catholics, socially conservative Southern African-Americans, and other demographic groups that current lean D are ripe for the GOP to pick up as long as the Democratic Party keeps just counting them as "demographics" and not actually listening to them.

There's no reason for this election to result in any sort of single-party monopoly. It's probably just the end of a party era.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 15:20:51

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The GOP was too divided to stay together anyway; it has 4-5 politic groups inside it that could each have a party of their own. Trump only accentuated this rupture and now lifelong republicans are considering voting for Clinton. The democrats should be losing by a landslide if the republicans had a decent candidate.

That being said, the democrats could implode soon as well; core Clinton policies and voters have more in common with moderate republicans than they do with Bernie democrats.

These are really weird elections.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 21:07:43


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It's getting worse for Trump all the time though


Eh, not really. It's is pretty much the same map that Sabato's crystal ball has had published for around 6 months now I believe (http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/2016-president/), as well as being very similar to the map fivethirtyeight is showing right now.

He's probably going to win Texas, that map has it pink.


I'd imagine so, it hasn't voted democrat in 40 years.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 21:21:14


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A slave holding one party state is great?

You need to check your history. The parties swapped social standards in the 50's and 60's. I don't think calling the Democrats slaveholders is really a valid insult anymore.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 21:23:25


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B-but the Democrats hate the blacks! The blacks just don't know what's good for them and keep voting for the SLAVERY PARTY!!!
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 21:23:37


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Libertarianism just isn't nearly as compelling as abolitionism was in the 1850's.

In 1852, the Free Soil Party (the abolitionist party) got 5% of the vote.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 21:36:56


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A slave holding one party state is great?

You need to check your history. The parties swapped social standards in the 50's and 60's. I don't think calling the Democrats slaveholders is really a valid insult anymore.


again

I was referring to before the Republican Party.

Anyway, the democrats and republicans didn't swap social standards, they both became less racist.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 23:01:46


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MGSB is capable of blaming you for a crime a distant relative of you did a thousand years ago just because he has your family name lol

Democrats of the 1860s would burn Obama if they could, and Lincoln would likely campaign against Trump for these elections.

According to you 90%+ of blacks are voting democrat because Clinton defends slavery as one of her policies? Your logic is stupid.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 23:08:54


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When did I say Clinton supports slavery? And was it actually serous?
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 23:13:49


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I didn't even say the democrats were more racist than the republicans here, I said they lessened their racism too.

Democrats of the 1860s would burn Obama if they could, and Lincoln would likely campaign against Trump for these elections.

Lincoln was for mass deportation of blacks, no real difference in the main issue applicable (mass deportations yes/no). And yes. The democrats got less racist, like the republicans.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 23:42:55


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The Democrats just went from manipulating the race game one way, to manipulating it another.

They claim to support minorities, but do very little to actually assist them while crying about "It's the GOP's fault! Vote for us more and maybe we can beat them!". They encourage herd thinking by saying their polices represent the best interests of all X, and thus anyone who opposes them hates X and must be a Y, which is evil.

The Republicans use the same formula to manipulate Christians, gun owners, and so forth. Both parties love identity politics because it's so much easier to control people that way.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/17/2016 23:50:38


Жұқтыру
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They claim to support minorities, but do very little to actually assist them


Private job/university hiring priority based on sex, skinhue, and if Clinton is picked, "gender"? It doesn't take much to know as some kind of minority that the Democratic Party is best pick for you.
Will the GOP ever recover from Donald Trump?: 8/18/2016 01:09:56


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Gosh, another anarchist...
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