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It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/19/2016 18:15:52


Stewie
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It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/19/2016 18:42:41


Major General Smedley Butler
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understand the principles of the society you claim to protect?

They don't; they openly despise enlightenment principles, natural rights or the preeminence of man over government. They're a regressive strain that's stuck around since the 1600s, and want to return Europe to their old Europe where they're in a permanent state of conflict with the Muslim world, justifying their violence with violence committed by the Muslims, which was a reaction to violence committed by them and so on. They want to rule the west with a Metternichist police state, and doom their beloved west to hell when they sit on their bayonet.

Note, I am not criticizing folk who just want to limit immigration or think Islam is bad; just the folk who want violent action against it, and some cultural purity in Europe and America.
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/19/2016 19:06:29


Fan the Apostle
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Politics are the embodiment of human structure of social hierarchy.
Politics is corrupt because there is so many of them
Politics cause wars because of conflicting aspects of several ideologies.
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/19/2016 20:20:47


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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I'm just pointing out how you act like all Muslims are evil while Christians can also be bad

- You pretty much said it.

Edited 8/19/2016 20:21:04
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/19/2016 20:24:38


Жұқтыру
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Democracy, secularism and liberalism are not an enlightenment.


I agree, that's why DONALD JOHN TRUMP is best man in da worl, he gonna take all that away.
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/19/2016 21:34:38


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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^
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/19/2016 23:15:57


Major General Smedley Butler
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^ autistic cats, making conspiracy theories true since 2016

1.The UN should make all Muslim countries its protectorates.

The UN is a powerless organization that should be disbanded

2. US, Russia, EU, China, India and other non-Muslim countries with reasonable militaries should form a UN Standby Force (UNSF) to ensure the following operation in Step 3 and 4.

I won't die for your autistic imperialism

However they are not be allowed to possess arms

Muslims posess the right to bare arms

All non-Muslim countries should enter Muslim countries and disarm their militaries and citizens (or subjects in the case of monarchies).

Great; you've started a nuclear war and conventional war that will last decades, until it dissolves into guerrilla conflict until the governments involved collapse

Individual Muslims must have the same rights as non-Muslims under a secular law that respect freedom, including that of women, children and religious minorities.

So Non-Muslims don't have the right to bare arms either
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/19/2016 23:21:51


Huitzilopochtli 
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crazy people are already denied gun ownership. muslims are crazy. why give muslims guns?
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/19/2016 23:23:07


Carlos
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Tabby, dont use TJC account to this kind of opinion, please.
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/19/2016 23:24:54


Major General Smedley Butler
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If Clinton and Trump can have the power to annihilate humanity, there's no reason that a Muslim can posess a much lesser power.
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/19/2016 23:42:07


DomCobb
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1.The UN should make all Muslim countries its protectorates.

Good job, you've just made Islamic fundementalists even more angry, increasing civil unrest for a lot longer.

2. US, Russia, EU, China, India and other non-Muslim countries with reasonable militaries should form a UN Standby Force (UNSF) to ensure the following operation in Step 3 and 4.

Good luck with having the major factions of the world cooperate.

3.All non-Muslim countries should dismantle Sharia courts and ensure that its Muslim populations abide by national laws. Muslims should have the same individual rights as non-Muslims. However they are not be allowed to possess arms. Admission into Muslim schools should depend on the will of the student only, not his/her family or mosque.

Forced secularization of the Middle East is only going to worsen ties between fundamentalists and the West, sparking many more theocracies.

4.All non-Muslim countries should enter Muslim countries and disarm their militaries and citizens (or subjects in the case of monarchies). The Sharia courts should be dismantled. Individual Muslims must have the same rights as non-Muslims under a secular law that respect freedom, including that of women, children and religious minorities. Non-Muslim countries must not annex land in Muslim countries or appropriate any private land (except for that of former monarchs of absolute monarchies).

Are we trying to help stabilize the region or start an imperialist nuclear war? Because none of these ideas would actually help unite the region under secular states. Fundamentalism isn't broken down with a sword, but rather shifts showly to more moderate views through internal "enlightenment". Hitting fundamentalism with a sword will just radicalize the sect and strengthen it.

5.This occupation will last as long as Islam requires Sharia to be literally enforced.

Anyone have a spare event horizon of a black hole? I need one to time travel to when this is true, because none of the above proposals will lead to step 5 occurring.
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/19/2016 23:48:11


Major General Smedley Butler
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Chatul would probably try neutering the male population of those countries too. Tbh, the terrorists would be the clear good guys here.
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/20/2016 00:15:14


Ox
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Just wondering, what makes you think you have any right to decide how other countries should be run, and how will dissolving those governments affect those people? There isn't exactly a good track record of Western countries enforcing their values on middle eastern states and it ending up successful, so what makes you smarter than world leaders, Tabby?
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/20/2016 00:22:42


Deutschland
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I think all Races are equal however I dont like the culture of mainstream Islam so we shouldnt import it to our nation states, and before you think the idea of a nation state is racist the dali lama agrees http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matteo-mecacci/did-the-dalai-lama-really_b_10259834.html
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/31/dalai-lama-eu-taking-many-migrants-germany-cannot-become-arab-country/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/05/31/the-dalai-lama-says-too-many-refugees-are-going-to-germany/

Edited 8/20/2016 00:28:01
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/20/2016 01:13:04


Ox
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i ask you 3 questions and you reply with 2 paragraphs that answer none of them

well done Tabby, you earn rake of the year award
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/20/2016 01:24:40


DomCobb
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GL with trying to accomplish any of your goals without triggering nuclear or attrition warfare.
You're going to need it.

Adresssing points made:
How is the Dali Lama an expert on immigration?
How are you going to disarm Islmamic nations without triggering war?
If two grouos have nukes and hate each other, are they going to nuke each other?
It is not just genetics that defines a nation state. Culture and historical ties are also important.
Violence begats violence.
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/20/2016 01:43:08


Жұқтыру
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Chatul would probably try neutering the male population of those countries too.

Just wondering, what makes you think you have any right to decide how other countries should be run, and how will dissolving those governments affect those people?


Demosocialist autist turns into conservative warmongerer.
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/21/2016 00:08:41


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* Looks at posts *

* Runs away faster than Obama from Iraq *
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/21/2016 00:18:18


Major General Smedley Butler
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So you're not running away
It may be immoral but it must be done: 8/21/2016 00:23:19


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^ catchy
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