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Nationless people: 8/20/2016 23:01:34


Deutschland
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Do you think that people without a country (like the basque) deserve there own nation if they want one?
Nationless people: 8/20/2016 23:12:00


Major General Smedley Butler
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Angry Koala would approve
Nationless people: 8/20/2016 23:18:10


OxTheAutist 
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Depends. For example, I support Catalan, Basque, Québécois, and Scottish independence, but not Welsh or Bavarian.
Nationless people: 8/20/2016 23:27:36


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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They usually (but not always) do. However I do not believe in the concept of ethnicity since it is inherently ill-defined. Please explain to me how the English and the Germans are somehow two ethnic groups in Europe while they can amalgamate into one group in America. Is the distinction between Frenchmen and Spaniards and the distinction between Koreans and Japanese meaningful? I don't think so.

Genetically similar "ethnic groups" usually have intense (and illogical since evolutionarily speaking they are close relatives) hatred towards each other while genetically very different ones can get along. Why not abolish the concept of ethnicity forever so that everyone can get along? Or if it has to state let's all declare ourselves as ethnic groups consisting of only one individual.

Edited 8/20/2016 23:32:56
Nationless people: 8/20/2016 23:31:00


Жұқтыру
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Depends.


I'm a hypocrite*

won't even uphold Orkney selfrule, gosh, you're such an imperialist pig.
Nationless people: 8/20/2016 23:31:39


Cilghal93
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I am the first of the new Quicksandian people. It's ethnicity whose culture originates from and bases on teachings of the TRUE HEYHEUHEI.
Nationless people: 8/20/2016 23:33:31


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Homo catus here. A new species consisting of one organism now exists.

Edited 8/20/2016 23:34:21
Nationless people: 8/20/2016 23:38:00


Imperator
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Honestly, Forcing someone to be under your rule when they don't want to be is basically imperialism. At this point we've basically put imperialism behind us, and if a nation wants to secede, I think they should have the right to hold a referendum on it.
Nationless people: 8/20/2016 23:44:12


Major General Smedley Butler
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Gosh you're all such imperialists, you don't uphold self rule of a person
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 00:51:03


Deutschland
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I think it should be the choice of the natives. also I support Palestine being independent but also Israel
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 01:08:32


Жұқтыру
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Meaning of the word "Israel":

The State of Israel, a modern country in the Middle East, at the eastern shore of the Mediterranean.
The Land of Israel, a region that is roughly coextensive with the State of Israel.
(historical) An ancient kingdom that occupied roughly the same area in ancient times.
(historical) An ancient kingdom that occupied the northern part of this area, as distinct from Judah.
The Jews, taken collectively.
A male given name, notably borne by Jacob (after Genesis 32:28).
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https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Israel#Proper_noun
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 01:09:33


Genghis 
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Know thanks ok letting for us.
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 01:19:11

[FEL]Chatul
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@Deutschland Genetically Palestinian Arabs are pretty close to Israeli Jews. So do Kurds. Are some Kurds descendants of the Lost Tribes of Israel?

@All atheists: the Kingdom of Israel did exist since it existed in Assyrian records, however Assyrians called it "Al-Umeria" (Omri-land).

Edited 8/21/2016 01:21:11
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 02:11:44


Onoma94
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@Deutschland Genetically Palestinian Arabs are pretty close to Israeli Jews. So do Kurds. Are some Kurds descendants of the Lost Tribes of Israel?

WTF where did he say any of that?...

Edited 8/21/2016 02:11:57
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 02:13:31

[FEL]Chatul
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^I'm just showing him absurdity of many "ethnic" conflicts. Well the issues surrounding Israel is not ethnic but religious in nature.
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 06:11:42


Darth Darth Binks
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Our first step is realizing the difference between a nation and a country.
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 06:50:43

francisco0002
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In my opinion, ethnicity is a specific combination of DNA and RNA haplogroups which is unique amongst a group of people. I believe that most of the seperatists in spain, france, etc. should get independence
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 10:54:52

[FEL]Chatul
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^Good. :-) However this will certainly freak the ethnic nationalists out since ethnic groups in a cultural sense rarely correspond to haplogroups even on the paternal side, let alone the maternal side.

For example there is no Y-haplogroup I nationalism. On the other hand, there are only Irish and Bosnian nationalism despite genetic mixture in both groups.

Edited 8/21/2016 10:59:21
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 13:21:40


GeneralPE
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Break up the big nations. Make it a feudal, monarchist society. Then have Putin unite it all and rebuild the West.
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 13:34:21


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Monarchism is a problem.
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 14:08:12


Paugers
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Monarchism is a problem.

I'd take monarchism over the world MGSB wants.
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 14:16:15


Major General Smedley Butler
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GeneralPE, your ideas are ancient and non-viable. Feudalism cannot work at this point, any modern military would crush a feudal military, check Agincourt. The French feudal army at Agincourt was composed of primarily knights and men at arms, while the English had a much more modern paid army. Guess what, the French army was crushed, even though it outnumbered the English.

Then the French reorganized and created a more modern army and, lo and behold, defeated the English.

Also, Russia had a 10% population of Muslims. Shouldn't you hate Putin for that?
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 14:17:42

francisco0002
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@chatul, I never said that ethnic and cultural groups correspond with only a single haplogroup. Every ethnic group is a combination of haplogroups and their cultures usually correspond with their ethnicities unless they have been influenced by other cultures or ethnicities. Most nationalists have patriotism for their country, ethnicity and ethnicity, whatever haplogroup combination their ethnicity may be
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 14:20:16


Major General Smedley Butler
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Monarchism is a problem.

I'd take monarchism over the world MGSB wants.


A nazi wants authoritarianism, what a surprise.
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 14:35:30


Paugers
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GeneralPE, your ideas are ancient and non-viable. Feudalism cannot work at this point, any modern military would crush a feudal military, check Agincourt. The French feudal army at Agincourt was composed of primarily knights and men at arms, while the English had a much more modern paid army. Guess what, the French army was crushed, even though it outnumbered the English.

Reading up on Agincourt, I believe the reason the French lost was because they were technologically behind England and underestimated the use of longbowmen and archers which the English alone had. It had nothing to do with the English armed force's lay out vs the French armed forces lay out which is what feudalism is about.

feu•dal•ism (fyo͞odˈl-ĭzˌəm)►
n. A political and economic system of Europe from the 9th to about the 15th century, based on the holding of all land in fief or fee and the resulting relation of lord to vassal and characterized by homage, legal and military service of tenants, and forfeiture.

It has nothing to do with the modernization of the military... It simply calls for drafts when needed.
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 14:48:28


Жұқтыру
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Also, Russia had a 10% population of Muslims. Shouldn't you hate Putin for that?


Kadyrov going to make the West great again wooo
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 14:52:33


Major General Smedley Butler
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Reading up on Agincourt, I believe the reason the French lost was because they were technologically behind England and underestimated the use of longbowmen and archers which the English alone had. It had nothing to do with the English armed force's lay out vs the French armed forces lay out which is what feudalism is about.

The English longbowmen were peasants and farmers, the French charge was led by noblemen disobeying orders, and this had happened multiple times before, with the antiquated French knights being defeated. Until the French reorganization that was the catalyst for French victory.

It has nothing to do with the modernization of the military... It simply calls for drafts when needed.

Feudalism calls for the nobles to provide military service and for peasants/serfs to be barred from military service. This produced the situation of the Hundred Years' War where the English with superior organization consistently defeated masses of noblemen. In a modern situation where the countries are comparable in population, there would also be a huge disparity in numbers, with the feudal state having much smaller numbers and the non-feudal state having a much larger military.

This would produce situations where states like Turkey, which would not use the noble system in this scenario, would absolutely dominate it's European neighbors in warfare, and states with intelligent leaders would fight endless wars with their nobles, attempting to consolidate their land.
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 14:56:17


Paugers
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I'm not saying it's the best system, just that it's better than yours.
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 15:00:18


Major General Smedley Butler
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My system: No armies needed, so no need to have a good way to raise armies
GPEs system: Inefficient army raising that will slowly give way to efficient army raising
Nationless people: 8/21/2016 15:08:40


Paugers
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If we deployed your system across the world, total chaos would ensue followed by leaders rising up around the world, forming their own nations, leading to them controlling the economies of their nation, leading to our modern world.
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