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Who Would win in a war?: 8/29/2016 16:53:05

{BM}-Person the Unknown
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Who would win in a war, the USA or all of Africa?
Who Would win in a war?: 8/29/2016 17:51:48


Daniel
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Well the question itself is vague but America would win in most scenarios. The only way the USA would lose is if they tried to occupy all of Africa.
Who Would win in a war?: 8/29/2016 17:51:48


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Edited 8/29/2016 17:52:34
Who Would win in a war?: 8/29/2016 17:58:14


Cata Cauda
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No one.

Sure, the US could successfully keep them off from it's coast, but they would never be able to take all of Africa.
You couldnt even hold Iraq, so trying to take over all of Africa would be an economically disaster.
Who Would win in a war?: 8/29/2016 18:06:00


Fan the Apostle
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^dat

What could the US do? Industrialise Africa? Plus there's a fuckton of riots and the African nations will pop back into their continent countries with the extra nation here and there

Edited 8/29/2016 18:06:11
Who Would win in a war?: 8/29/2016 20:13:46


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Africa. Could you imagine how screwed the US would be? They'd have to secure an entire continent with only an military of two million. Of course this means they'd have to enslave millions of Americans and send them to fight over in Africa. Which will cause drops in preformance and morale, make drug use skyrocket among troops, causing even more usage here as troops send that stuff back.

Also, could you imagine how many Africans would pick up arms against this? The bombing campaigns and massacres are going to make dozens of millions of not hundreds of millions pick up arms against the US. There's going to be foreign volunteers, equipment being shipped in, and millions of casualties on each side. The professional armies that eventually get defeated are going to be supplanted by armies equipped with Russian, Chinese and Indian equipment. Not old stuff either, all three countries have the interests of either stopping the US from growing stronger or the interest of the US not ruining their investments there, so this will be modern and top quality.

Also, after the images of the widespread genocide the US will be committing come public, the sanctions on the US will start up. You better hope that either the US has the ability for autarky or Africa has what they need.

If it's TL;DR, here's the gist: Tens of millions of Americans die, tens of millions of Africans die, Africa wins.
Who Would win in a war?: 8/29/2016 20:36:16


DerWyyy
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africa has over 50 countries....and a population of over 1.1 billion, usa has over 317 mil....now, no way usa would win
Who Would win in a war?: 8/29/2016 20:59:25


Benjamin628 
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Both sides lose if America uses its "technological superiority", which would involve nuclear weapons. No nukes? Then spend 10s of trillions of dollars trying to hold Africa, which would be successful for about a year, because you would have revolts to the extreme.
Who Would win in a war?: 8/29/2016 20:59:39


Major General Smedley Butler
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America. You're all completely taking out of consideration the technological advances that America has, it's equivalent to the Nazi's invading all of Europe with their superior technology.

Uh, in 1939, Germany wasn't the most advanced country in Europe. They didn't even have the best tanks, it was mostly the encirclement of most of the French and British army that got them the win in France. It's more the equivalent of Japan invading China. I.E, a total clusterf**k that got Japan nowhere.

The use of drones in addition to EMP's would completely destroy any large African resistance, allowing America to secure the continent without any real force attempting to stop them

Drones can be shot down, EMPs are not really used by the US much and as far as I know, the only the gov has is currently still being worked on and not near deployment. Anyway, every military force in Africa is a pretty big force to oppose the American forces.

The very threat of death will cause many Africans to betray their continent and join the American forces, just as there are Iraqis and Afghans who do in the Middle East and give a small boost of security which will allow America to spread their units farther and try to destroy the guerilla forces which would remain

Hasn't this been disproven by the very fact that so many folk stood against the US invasion in Afghanistan and Iraq? Anyway, no ones going to join the group that just murdered their friends and bombed their village. You're really underestimating how many folk would hate you for that.

Thus, while it will be an unstable occupation, the US could secure Africa thanks to our technological advantage.

Thus, while the guerrillas would be thicker than molasses, the US military would be mauled when fighting Africa's militaries badly.
Who Would win in a war?: 8/29/2016 21:01:05


Luna {TJC}
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>secure
>drive over an IED at every corner
Who Would win in a war?: 8/29/2016 21:01:37


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http://businesstech.co.za/news/general/83023/south-africa-refuses-to-let-go-of-its-nuclear-explosives/

Also, South Africa could deal some serious damage to the American forces with these.
Who Would win in a war?: 8/30/2016 00:40:50


DomCobb
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Russia and China, as they would be making a monumental profit from lots of arm deals with African countries.
Who Would win in a war?: 8/30/2016 00:42:25


berdan131
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Africa would perish very quickly. It would basically be "kill them all" scenario, where Africa's infrastructure and cities get rekt and then the full-scale invasion would follow killing those who are left in Africa.

Of course, before that happens African countries would just surrender.
Who Would win in a war?: 8/30/2016 01:09:35


Major General Smedley Butler
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Africa would perish very quickly. It would basically be "kill them all" scenario, where Africa's infrastructure and cities get rekt and then the full-scale invasion would follow killing those who are left in Africa.

The US Air Force could not sustain operations over all of Africa, it'd be the Battle of Britain on steroids. A large offensive force in combat with a smaller force, with the larger force losing trained pilots at a much quicker pace due to not being able to recover them. Also, the Africans will be getting huge amounts of volunteers and equipment.
Who Would win in a war?: 8/30/2016 01:10:01


Cata Cauda
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>secure
>drive over an IED at every corner

Things like Iraq and Vietnam proved that the US cant handle assymetric warfare. And thats exactly every occupied country will do.
The US would invade Africa, leave it a few years later crying and lynch the president who ordered it.
Who Would win in a war?: 8/30/2016 01:14:03


Major General Smedley Butler
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Tbh, I'm pretty sure the US might just lynch the president who ordered it within a week.

a few years later

That's awfully hopeful. It's more probable that the US stays in coastal countries for quite some time, unless it just sinks the country economically and socially right off the bat. Also, constant "this will be the one" offensives that don't pan out will happen.
Who Would win in a war?: 8/30/2016 01:22:28


Benjamin628 
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Africa 11.67 Million Square Miles

USA 3.81 Million Square Miles

I don't care how developed Africa is, it isn't a fair fight.
Who Would win in a war?: 8/30/2016 02:35:46

{BM}-Person the Unknown
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You all are ignoring the fact that America usually benefits off of large scale war.


In other news, I find it funny how, when i asked this, I only meant a army vs army war, not occupation or anything like that, yet people decided to go extremely in depth with their views.

Edited 8/30/2016 02:36:13
Who Would win in a war?: 8/30/2016 02:37:15


Major General Smedley Butler
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Oh, so a woodle measuring contest. Yeah America's military wins, it's pretty useless to talk about this stuff though, armies don't fight in bubbles.
Who Would win in a war?: 8/30/2016 02:40:26


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