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#DownvoteNazism
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Kebab, you're trying waayy too hard to gain notoriety as a forum troll.
Bring back segregation: 9/12/2016 12:31:58


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Well that's not the problem. The problem is that somehow Jews and Slavs are two separate races, both separate from Nordics. How many different forms of segregated areas do you need? Lol most Finns and some Baltic peoples also have Y chromosome haplogroup N which is the same as that of Yakuts in Siberia, shall they also receive a separate segregated area because they are not entirely European but not quite Asian either?

Yeah and some Irish people and many Bosniaks have Y chromosome haplogroup I while most Caucasians should have R. These Y chromosome haplogroup I people are closer to Jews and other Middle Easterners but are more far away from people with Y chromosome haplogroup R than many Indians who have Y chromosome haplogroup F. Shall we do genetic testing and properly separate these Y chromosome haplogroup I people from their Y chromosome R neighbors?

I'm just getting started.

Edited 9/12/2016 12:37:05
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{Shredtail2} Nice bio lol.
Bring back segregation: 9/12/2016 13:31:27


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^^Any form of non-genetic definition of race inevitably allows passing. According to your definition can a person change his/her race voluntarily?

For example Onkelos was a Greek but he later became a Jew. Did he change his race?

LOL according to this definition I'm probably at least 1/3 Semitic which is good.:3 Do I actually have Y chromosome haplogroup J? Meow? Never tested that.

Edited 9/12/2016 13:39:50
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(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Your definition of race is non-genetic and vague. Hence you can not have any real racial government based on that.

Remember the Nazis who actually had some ad hoc definition of Jewishness which was pretty stupid but it was at least not ambiguous.

Also please do not spiritually define anything. This is just impossible. For example everyone can claim to be spiritually a cat without actually being one.

Edited 9/12/2016 15:54:47
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(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^I do have a very genetic definition of race. Just look at Y-chromosome haplogroups and other genetic information. Yes the races will be called A, B, C, etc.

No passing is possible.

If you believe you can spiritually define anything let's start from cats. Please try to do that. We need an unambiguous criteria that is easy to implement to determine what is a spiritual cat and what is not.

Edited 9/12/2016 16:04:17
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(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Not necessarily. We will also use autosomal DNA for example.

I believe we should use Y-chromosome DNA of an individual if male and her father if female to determine his/her paternal race, mitochrondrial DNA to determine his/her maternal race and autosomal DNA for overall race. Later if we have better scientific criteria we will include them.

Then passing will truly be impossible since you can not falsify your genes. I'm not interested in using genes for the purpose of racism, however it is useful in medicine so it should be promoted.

Edited 9/12/2016 16:25:08
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(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^This is not irrelevant. Race = Genetics. You have this kind of genes then you belong to a certain race. What else can race be other than 100% genetics if you want it to be hereditary?

You either allow passing or you do not. It seems that you do. Your vague non-concept of race can not be the basis of any logical ideology.

Edited 9/12/2016 16:33:33
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(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^It is not a strawman. It is just how race is scientifically defined. People in the scientific community use genes to understand where each "ethnic group" is actually from. That's it.

Edited 9/12/2016 16:50:07
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(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^How do I fail to take genetics into account? In fact my definition of race is 100% genetic. A race is a group of people with similar genes. Nothing more, nothing less.

Edited 9/12/2016 17:32:08
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Bring back segregation: 9/12/2016 18:18:56


(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Yeah how is an Irish guy with Y chromosome haplogroup I and another Irish guy with Y chromosome haplogroup R of the same race? At the same time, a Polish guy with Y chromosome haplogroup R and an Irish guy with the same Y chromosome haplogroup R somehow belong to two races, huh.

The problem is that you use a liberal and illogical definition of race.

Edited 9/12/2016 18:21:16
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(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^Yeah but with very different genes. Still one race?

Ok so people similar to each other genetically but not culturally have different races but people similar to each other culturally but not genetically have the same race. Does that even make any sense any more?

Edited 9/12/2016 18:23:09
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^Irish people are not a well-defined ancestry-based group. Instead it is a tribe/cultural group that is largely but not exclusively ancestry-based.

So in essence instead of being very racial as you claim to be you are being very liberal. Topmew.

Edited 9/12/2016 18:25:09
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(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^You are saying that only descendants are relevant to race. Hence a person that never breeds is inherently without race?

Some Magyars are of oriental origin while others look like typical Europeans. Are they in the same race?

Edited 9/12/2016 18:28:12
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(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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Asexuals don't have a race?

One has to be heterosexual or bisexual to have a race since race only applies to what kind of descendants one may have?

So if nobody ever has kids any more then race will no longer exist? This is weird.

Edited 9/12/2016 18:35:53
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[FEL]Chatul
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If you redefine race as tribe then yes I do not care about tribes or even the future generations since I have nothing to do with children other than not harming them. I won't knowingly harm a human but I indeed couldn't care less about what happens after I die, or even whether humanity will continue to exist after I die at all.

Edited 9/12/2016 18:42:36
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(((Tabby Juggernaut)))
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^LOL I try to literally define race accurately while you just say that a race is a collection of ethnic groups.

Edited 9/12/2016 18:55:06
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^I see. So according to your definition I do not have a race at all since I will die without leaving any genetic legacy.

Lol I'm going to formally declare that I'm "irracial".

Meow!!!!! Cats rule!

Edited 9/12/2016 19:04:32
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[FEL]Chatul
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LOL yeah if I had kids I would let them at least learn from the Jewish culture. But I will never have kids.
The Jewish culture is good.

Edited 9/13/2016 00:10:52
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